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Rove claimed House health bill results in "torrent of red ink" in second decade -- but CBO disagrees

October 30, 2009 4:41 pm ET — 11 Comments

Fox News contributor Karl Rove falsely claimed that the House health reform bill "front-loads the revenue" but "back-loads the program costs, which means by the end of the first 10 years, this program is running annual deficits," adding that it will result in "a torrent of red ink in the second decade, when the program is fully operational." Contrary to Rove's claim, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) found that the House bill would not only reduce federal budget deficits by $104 billion through 2019, but also that it would continue to reduce the deficit in the subsequent decade.

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Rove: "[W]e can count on this being a torrent of red ink in the second decade"

From the October 30 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom:

ROVE: Here's a big issue, and I'm trying to understand this and looking carefully at the bill and hope to arrive at sort of -- it looks like this bill front-loads the costs as all of the -- excuse me, front-loads the revenue as all of these bills have tended to do. That is to say, the tax cuts, the tax increases and the benefit cuts, and it back-loads the program costs, which means that by the end of the first 10 years, this program is running annual deficits. If it's running annual deficits by the sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth year, we can count on this being a torrent of red ink in the second decade, when the program is fully operational, so there are lots of -- there are lots of problems that could cause this to be -- to end up being a non-starter, but they will get something through the House, and it will go to the Senate.

CBO projects deficit reduction continuing after the first 10 years

CBO estimated federal budget deficit reductions of $104 billion during first decade. Contrary to Rove's claim that "by the end of the first 10 years," the House health care reform bill, the Affordable Health Care for America Act (H.R. 3962), "is running annual deficits," the CBO found that in the eighth, ninth, and tenth years, the bill runs a surplus. Additionally, the CBO found that "enacting H.R. 3962 would result in a net reduction in federal budget deficits of $104 billion over the 2010-2019 period." From CBO's score:

CBO projected continued savings after first 10 years. According to CBO, the House bill is expected to continue reducing the deficit during the following decade, not causing the "torrent of red ink" predicted by Rove. From the CBO score:

All told, H.R. 3962 would reduce the federal deficit by $9 billion in 2019, CBO and JCT estimate. After that, the added revenues and cost savings are projected to grow slightly more rapidly than the cost of the coverage expansions. In the decade after 2019, the gross cost of the coverage expansions would probably exceed 1 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), but the added revenues and cost savings would probably be greater. Consequently, CBO expects that the legislation would slightly reduce federal budget deficits in that decade relative to those projected under current law-with a total effect during that decade that is in a broad range between zero and one-quarter percent of GDP. The imprecision of that calculation reflects the even greater degree of uncertainty that attends to it, compared with CBO's 10-year budget estimates, and the effects of the bill could fall outside of that range. [CBO score, 10/29/09]

Rove has repeatedly spread health care misinformation from his Fox News perch

Rove is a serial health care misinformer. Rove has spread misinformation and made false claims throughout the 2009 health care reform debate during numerous appearances on Fox News as a contributor. For instance, purporting to assess President Obama's September 9 health care speech, Rove contradicted the CBO's assessment of the House bill to suggest that "most companies" will "dump" coverage, when in fact CBO found that net employer coverage will increase; obscured the wording of a Washington Post/ABC News poll question showing broad support for the public option to discredit it; and falsely suggested that the Obama administration is pushing veterans toward "assisted suicide."

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    • Author by n'est-ce pas (October 30, 2009 5:06 pm ET)
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      And let's not forget, shall we, that the CBO doesn't take into account a great deal of the probable savings associated with increased preventative care. Access to family practitioners will probably reduce some of the intangibles, such as the high morbidity and mortality associated with that most chronic of conditions, poverty and near-poverty. It would also affect some concrete cost reductions, such as a reduction in ER visits associated with expanded primary care. Bottom line, the CBO scoring is as conservative an estimate of this bill’s deficit reduction capabilities as is possible.
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    • Author by Conchobhar (October 30, 2009 5:22 pm ET)
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      Rove is clearly using "the math," again. Remind me, Rovester, how accurate was that last November?
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    • Author by sambo (October 30, 2009 5:46 pm ET)
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      I'll except CBO'S assessment since the wicked architect has continuously lied to us throughout the Bush years. In fact he lied so well Fox scooped him up,and I don't see any mass dumping,just more rightwing rhetoric
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    • Author by srichardson (October 30, 2009 6:32 pm ET)
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      It is amazing that the Republicans can think up lie after lie after lie about healthcare. They wanted the CBO report bc they thought it would prove healthcare would add to the deficit. Then, when the CBO report proves the exact opposite, they manipulate the information to say something negative. The effort it must take to continuously come up with new misinformations is astounding.
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      • Author by DellDolly (October 30, 2009 10:12 pm ET)
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        Rove pulled another one out of his butt this evening with a substitute host on Greta's show.

        He claimed that the only govt healthcare program that came in under budget was the drug plan that Bush pushed through.

        That's nonsense that it came in under budget! Ridiculous!
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    • Author by my4cents (October 30, 2009 10:10 pm ET)
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      Rove, Cheney walked the dangerously close to illegal line (may be crossed it too) when their party was in charge of the country.
      They party, principles, ideology, vision, got voted out.
      Why is their fear mongering being any credence, public coverage now?
      I forget. Fox News is a news channel where all probable jail inmates line up for employment.
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    • Author by pbg (October 31, 2009 10:06 am ET)
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      The insane pat about arguing over red ink is--red ink for whom?
      The assumption that our current health care system operates in the black only works if you work from the viewpoint of the business owners. For them, sure, there's a tidy profit.
      But for everybody else, it's an ocean of red ink that drowns families by the millions.
      It's bankrupting other industries as well as people. It's a huge, horrible expense that only continues to rise.
      To tens of millions of people, when told by the hand-wringing millionaires on the news that there'll be red ink, the reaction will be, bring it on.
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      • Author by DellDolly (October 31, 2009 8:08 pm ET)
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        If they didn't get to raise premiums every year, yeah, they'd be drowning in red ink too.
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    • Author by roundhouse (October 31, 2009 3:23 pm ET)
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      Why should we care what Rove says? He and his gutless Republicans are too scared to come up with an alternative plan.

      Go away, Karl. Stupid coward.
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