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Fox & Friends distorts news on Social Security benefits to suggest "Washington waging a war against seniors"

October 15, 2009 2:09 pm ET — 29 Comments

On Fox News, Steve Doocy asked whether the fact that "for the first time since 1975, there will be no COLA -- no cost-of-living increase -- for Social Security recipients" indicated that "Washington [is] waging a war against seniors," continuing Fox & Friends' pattern of repeatedly fearmongering about how health care reform will harm senior citizens. In fact, the Social Security Administration has used the same formula to index benefits to inflation since the 1970s, and although 2009 reportedly marks the first time the formula will translate into no cost-of-living increase, the Obama administration is urging Congress to provide seniors with tax rebates that are equal to a cost-of-living adjustment, as the hosts of Fox & Friends themselves reported.

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Doocy suggests absence of increase in benefits is part of Washington's "war against seniors"

From the October 15 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

DOOCY: And today we know, for the first time since 1975, there will be no COLA -- no cost-of-living increase -- for Social Security recipients. So is Washington waging a war against seniors?

Michelle Malkin, you're listening to Robert Rubin [sic] and what is going on in Washington. What up with that?

Doocy undermined by facts: Same formula used to calculate annual benefits since 1975

Social Security Administration has tied benefits to Consumer Price Index (CPI) every year since 1975. According to the Social Security Administration, "Since 1975, Social Security's general benefit increases have been based on increases in the cost of living, as measured by the Consumer Price Index. We call such increases Cost-Of-Living Adjustments, or COLAs."

SSA: "[B]enefits will not automatically increase in 2010 as there was no increase in the Consumer Price Index ... from the third quarter of 2008 to the third quarter of 2009." The cost-of-living adjustment for Social Security benefits is calculated by comparing third-quarter CPI with that of the previous year. Third-quarter CPI for 2009 was 211.001, down from the third-quarter CPI for 2008 of 215.495. Referring to changes to Social Security for 2010, the Social Security Administration stated that "benefits will not automatically increase in 2010 as there was no increase in the Consumer Price Index (CPI-W) from the third quarter of 2008 to the third quarter of 2009."

Wash. Post: 2009 marks "first time that the federal formula used since" 1975 "will translate into no increase at all." An October 15 Washington Post article headlined, "Stagnant prices prevent Social Security increase," reported:

An increase in benefit checks each January has been a yearly ritual since the mid-1970s, when the government moved to ensure that its subsidies to retirees, pension recipients and others who receive Social Security benefits kept pace with inflation. Thursday's announcement by the Labor Department will mark the first time that the federal formula used since then, which is tied to the consumer price index, will translate into no increase at all. That is because consumer prices have remained stagnant in the weak economy -- a sharp reversal from this past year, when Social Security checks grew by 5.8 percent, an unusually large amount.

Obama supports $250 payments to seniors -- the equivalent of a 2 percent increase. On October 14, President Obama announced support for $250 in recovery checks for 49 million Social Security beneficiaries, which the administration estimated would be the equivalent to a 2 percent increase in benefits. Indeed, during the discussion of a purported "war against seniors," Fox & Friends noted Obama's support for the payments, and co-host Gretchen Carlson stated, "I hate to be the political cynic, but I am wondering if in fact this stimulus plan for seniors is a way to coddle them back into liking Obama's health care reform plan, since by large numbers, they are the ones who oppose it."

Fox & Friends has repeatedly engaged in egregious fearmongering about the impact of health care reform on seniors

Death panels, rationing, other misinformation finds a home on Fox & Friends. Fox & Friends has previously advanced a bonanza of health care reform misinformation, including the falsehood that the bill requires the elderly to go before a "death panel," the falsehood that the House bill would force people into a "government-designed plan," the claim that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) called health care reform opponents "un-American," the suggestion that a section of the bill that would provide Medicare reimbursement to doctors for end-of-life counseling would create "end-of-life consultants" other than doctors consulting with families, and the prediction that the bill would create a system of rationing that would result in the disappearance of medical procedures such as dialysis for the elderly.

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    • Author by Sks1 (October 15, 2009 2:33 pm ET)
         
      what are these people talking about bribinging seniors?,,doesnt make sense that people who already benefit from a form of government run healthcare should be opposed to a public option,,fox n friends should be ashamed
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    • Author by walstib (October 15, 2009 2:45 pm ET)
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      Well of course Obama is refusing to increase SS payments to old folks. Times are tough and these likely voters need to be reminded who controls the pursestrings right now.

      This is all about controlling the vote in 2010.

      Support us, says Obama, or we'll kill you.
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      • Author by right ON (October 15, 2009 2:52 pm ET)
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        I also can't help but believe it is nothing but a shameless political tool. If the COLA is not intended to be increased, then it isn't. Them the rules, if you don't like the rules, then change them. You don't circumvent them and give them money under the table. What about other people who aren't getting a raise, is Obama going to dump money in their bank account too?
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      • Author by n'est-ce pas (October 15, 2009 3:18 pm ET)
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        That's just obscene. If you had any decency or honor, you'd have whatever reptilian equivalent of shame people like you suffer. But you don't, do you? To you, ignoring all rules of civility and order, hedging the facts, heaping scorn and inciting fear, these are fair debate tactics. Am I right? Is that how you see your country? Not a place to be made better, but a place to sacrifice your honor to score cheap political points with the stupid and the credulous?
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        • Author by walstib (October 15, 2009 3:54 pm ET)
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          Chillax Broseph.


          Like my hipster lingo? Let me know and I'll unleash all kinds of super-cool words your way.
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      • Author by bintx (October 15, 2009 4:20 pm ET)
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        Okay, are you being sarcastic, or what? It wouldn't make any difference who was President right now. It's the law and has been the law for over 30 years.

        Your statement, if not sarcasm, is not only stupid, it is woefully inaccurate.
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    • Author by n'est-ce pas (October 15, 2009 3:15 pm ET)
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      Gotta love that graphic at the bottom, "Dem: 'We're going to let you die.'" The quotation marks denote a verbatim citation, so I'd like to know what Democrat they're quoting.
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    • Author by canaanxing9025 (October 15, 2009 5:54 pm ET)
         
      It always cracks me up when Fox or any of the wingnuts make an argument like this. All I can think is: OMG,we are going to die!!!! That can't be. We live in the greatest, bestest country God ever created. That can't happen, unless those criminal facist,communists,socialists, fill in the blank _____________ take over.

      BTW, I know this is a cheap shot, but Gretchen Carlson is fat. Before any on Fox News takes another swipe at Michele Obama's arms, they should take a look at Gretchen's 'guns'.
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    • Author by tman418 (October 15, 2009 5:59 pm ET)
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      SSA: "[B]enefits will not automatically increase in 2010 as there was no increase in the Consumer Price Index ... from the third quarter of 2008 to the third quarter of 2009." The cost-of-living adjustment for Social Security benefits is calculated by comparing third-quarter CPI with that of the previous year. Third-quarter CPI for 2009 was 211.001, down from the third-quarter CPI for 2008 of 215.495. Referring to changes to Social Security for 2010, the Social Security Administration stated that "benefits will not automatically increase in 2010 as there was no increase in the Consumer Price Index (CPI-W) from the third quarter of 2008 to the third quarter of 2009."

      If the CPI didn't increase, then there is no reason to increase the Social Security benefits. Does it have to increase every year?

      Wasn't it Bush and the Republicans that wanted to get rid of Social Security?
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      • Author by right ON (October 15, 2009 6:06 pm ET)
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        The benefits have always, or at least for a long time, been tied to inflation and Obama should not come along and try to usurp the rules and play politics. It's a shrewd move though, gotta give him that.

        And No, the Republicans don't want to get rid of SS, they just wanted to privatize it.
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        • Author by bintx (October 15, 2009 6:09 pm ET)
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          How is he playing politics?

          And, yes, the Republican Club DOES want to get rid of SS . . . privatizing it would destroy it.
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          • Author by right ON (October 15, 2009 6:19 pm ET)
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            I already said it in my first post. It's the government playing favorites, giving money to a group of people where the express rules and laws in place don't allow for it. And if you criticize it, as a Republican, you will accused of hating on seniors. So, as I said, it's pretty damn shrewd. And please, every iota of energy politicians do could be labeled as playing politics.
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            • Author by n'est-ce pas (October 16, 2009 12:31 pm ET)
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              I'm willing to bet you don't know how the CPI works. Even if it stays flat, certain sectors of the economy could still suffer from inflation (I'll give you a hint: the industry most hotly debated in Congress right now is one of them). Since seniors and disabled veterans are particularly vulnerable to rising medical and pharmaceutical costs, the flat CPI does not equate to an equivalent stretching of their SSI benefits. It's not playing politics to recognize that an unprecedented economic perfect storm is going to create a shortfall in a vulnerable user populations income. That's called "addressing the problem." I know it looks alien, considering Republicans don't really do leadership well, but keep your eyes open and you might learn a thing or two.
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          • Author by bruce1ace (October 15, 2009 6:20 pm ET)
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            The plan if I recall correctly was to allow people to privatize a portion of their social security. If you liked what you had going you wouldn't have to change anything.

            Kind of like the health care.
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            • Author by right ON (October 15, 2009 6:21 pm ET)
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              Touche'
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            • Author by tharri874 (October 15, 2009 9:17 pm ET)
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              Not at all like health care.

              Bush's SS proposal was a money hole:

              "The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (CBPP) has estimated the transition costs for private accounts to be $4.9 trillion through 2028, and it reported on March 24 that 'Private accounts, unless financed by contemporaneous benefit reductions or tax increases, entail trillions of dollars of borrowing.' The burden of paying these transition costs will fall on all Americans, not just those who opt for private accounts."

              Contrast this to the Democratic health care plan being debated now:


              "WASHINGTON - Health care legislation drafted by a key Senate committee would expand coverage to 94 percent of all eligible Americans at a 10-year cost of $829 billion, congressional budget experts said Wednesday, a preliminary estimate likely to power the measure past a major hurdle within days.

              The Congressional Budget Office added that the measure would reduce federal deficits by $81 billion over a decade and probably lead to continued reductions in federal budget deficits" in the years beyond"
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              • Author by DellDolly (October 15, 2009 11:06 pm ET)
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                The burden of paying these transition costs will fall on all Americans, not just those who opt for private accounts.

                Exactly.

                And what will you hear in response to you shooting down his argument?

                Crickets.
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              • Author by bruce1ace (October 16, 2009 8:33 am ET)
                   
                I was not saying that privatization of SS was a good idea, only that people had a choice to participate or not.

                I actually agree with the health care reform and disagree with the SS reform that was proposed.
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                • Author by DellDolly (October 16, 2009 11:25 am ET)
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                  No, what you said was that it wouldn't change anything for the people who didn't opt to privatize any of their SS. But that's not true.

                  Can you read? No one said you thought privatization was a good idea. Strawman argument.
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                  • Author by right ON (October 16, 2009 11:58 am ET)
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                    Obviously you can't read Sue, or you just feel the need to twist someone's words. bruce1ace did not say it wouldn't change anything for people who chose not to opt out of SS, what he said was that people had choices. You made your own conclusions.

                    Oh, and by the way, you are just diverting the topic thread again as this has nothing to do with privatizing SS. So I guess my response to you was feeding the troll. Sorry about that.
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                    • Author by DellDolly (October 18, 2009 12:37 am ET)
                         
                      Liar.

                      What he said was, and I quote, "If you liked what you had going you wouldn't have to change anything."

                      So yes, Bruce did say that it wouldn't change anything for people who choose not to opt out of SS. He said exactly that. How did you possibly miss that?

                      I didn't bring up privatizing SS, so no, I didn't derail the thread. I tried, and succeeded, in debunking his argument.

                      But yeah, your personal attack was an attempt to derail the thread. Your lie about what Bruce actually said was an attempt to do that too!

                      So, your fake apology is actually an obvious admission that it's exactly what you were trying to doo, derail the thread!!! You aren't fooling anyone.
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                    • Author by DellDolly (October 18, 2009 12:41 am ET)
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                      Oh, and just to be clear, who was the FIRST PERSON to bring up privatizing Social Security, which Right ON implies he didn't want to continue having a conversation about since it is derailing a thread?

                      That's right, it was RightON himself, with this statement in this posting.

                      "And No, the Republicans don't want to get rid of SS, they just wanted to privatize it."

                      Just crazy! I swear.
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        • Author by DellDolly (October 15, 2009 11:09 pm ET)
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          He's not trying to "play politics."

          He's figured out what a thinking, educated person knows - that despite the fact that the CPI hasn't shown an increase, that measure doesn't adequately reflect the costs of being a senior citizen in our nation. As such, next year it will cost them more to survive despite the fact that the CPI stayed fairly flat.
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        • Author by John Paradox (October 16, 2009 7:34 am ET)
             
          Subsec. (i)(1)(B). Pub. L. 98–21, § 112(a)(1), substituted “with respect to which the applicable increase percentage is 3 percent or more” for “in which the Consumer Price Index prepared by the Department of Labor exceeds, by not less than 3 per centum, such Index in the later of (i) the last prior cost-of-living computation quarter which was established under this subparagraph, or (ii) the most recent calendar quarter in which occurred the effective month of a general benefit increase under this subchapter”.

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      • Author by DellDolly (October 15, 2009 11:04 pm ET)
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        There were two pretty big increases the past two years, mostly because of increasing gas prices. Gas prices are significantly lower now.

        There is a good argument to be made that for senior citizens, gas costs shouldn't be weighed so heavily and their cost for medical insurance co-pays and drugs should count more heavily.

        Just because the CPI didn't go up doesn't mean that seniors' cost of living hasn't gone up. It has. That's why Obama is offering a $250 one time bonus - to make up for the fact that the CPI isn't great at mapping the costs of seniors. It's a generic consumer price list, and is not aimed for an older consumer.
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    • Author by tharri874 (October 15, 2009 9:00 pm ET)
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      What a contrast from five years ago, when Fox Pundits argued that Social security COLA needed to be CUT on false premises:

      "On the December 14 edition of FOX News' Special Report with Brit Hume, the "FOX All-Star" panelists agreed that Social Security's annual cost-of-living adjustment (COLA) is ripe for a cut, since the increase is indexed to wages rather than to actual cost of living, and wages generally increase faster than the cost of living. But this is incorrect. Social Security COLAs are tied to inflation -- that is, to increases in the actual cost of living. The wage index is used only to calculate a recipient's initial benefit level upon entering the program."

      Thanks, Media Matters.
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    • Author by Thetruthhurtz (October 15, 2009 11:42 pm ET)
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      Umm the CBO says Medicare Advantage seniors will have reduced coverage. Combine this with Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, (health care advisor to President Obama), who says that "the elderly with dementia and the young who have neurological disorders should be sacrificed for the common good". Sounds like a death panel to me. Wake up people.
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