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Breitbart burns Beck, Dobbs, right-wing media with false claim of "Community Organizers Pray[ing] TO" Obama

September 29, 2009 11:36 pm ET — 72 Comments

Glenn Beck, Lou Dobbs, and prominent conservative bloggers followed the lead of conservative website Breitbart.tv after the site falsely claimed that an online video showed community organizers from the Gamaliel Foundation "pray[ing]" to President Obama. Breitbart.tv subsequently updated the original post with an editor's note acknowledging that "there is a debate over what is actually being said" and that the crowd may, in fact, be saying "oh God" rather than "Obama"; the Gamaliel Foundation subsequently stated that "at no time have we prayed to President Obama" and that in the video, the organizers "can be heard saying, 'Hear our cry oh God,' 'Deliver us oh God,' etc."

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Breitbart.tv claims Gamaliel organizers "Pray TO" Obama, later to walk back claim

Breitbart.tv claims "Community Organizers Pray TO President-Elect Obama." As Media Matters for America noted, on September 29, Breitbart.tv -- published by Matt Drudge protégé Andrew Breitbart -- embedded a video with the headline "Shock Discovery: Community Organizers Pray TO President-Elect Obama." The video included captions such as "Deliver Us Obama" and "Hear Our Cry Obama," suggesting that the crowd was "pray[ing]" to Obama.

Post states organizers are members of Gamaliel Foundation, which "helped sponsor Barack Obama's initial work in Chicago." The Breitbart.tv post stated:

The Gamaliel National Clergy Caucus held "a New Orleans style funeral procession as they deliver a casket symbolizing the death of old ways of providing health care and pray for a new day for health care in America."

The Gamaliel Foundation is the community organizing group that helped sponsor Barack Obama's initial work in Chicago.

Editor's note: "Does the crowd say, 'Hear our cry, Obama' and 'Deliver us Obama?' Or are they saying 'Oh God?' " Breitbart.tv later "updated" the post with "the longer version of the original event" -- a video that did not include the captions -- and added an editor's note acknowledging that "there is a debate over what is actually being said" and that the crowd may, in fact, be saying, "Oh God," rather than "Obama":

Editor's note: We've updated this post with the longer version of the original event. As you'll see in the comments and related links there is a debate over what is actually being said. Does the crowd say, "Hear our cry, Obama" and "Deliver us Obama?" Or are they saying "Oh God?" In the longer version the first two repetitions seem to have a distinct "uh" sound at the end that resonates as "Obama." The later repetitions are a little fuzzier. Did some of the religious leaders present become uneasy? Or was there a mix of what was being said? Read some of the blogger analysis below. What do you think?

Beck jumped on Breitbart story, suggested organizers "just mocking God by faking a prayer to Obama"

Breitbart.tv's Baker: "I think you could only characterize it as a prayer to Obama" During the September 29 edition of his nationally syndicated radio program, Glenn Beck hosted Breitbart staffer Scott Baker, who stated that the video "[j]ust went up seconds ago" on Breitbart.tv and asserted: "I think you could only characterize it as a prayer to Obama. Not for Obama. They're literally chanting and saying, 'Deliver us, Obama.' 'Hear us, Obama.' "

Beck: "Link to the front-page top story on the front page of GlennBeck.com." Beck then asked executive producer Steve "Stu" Burguiere to tell the show's webmaster, Chris Brady, to post the video "on the front page of GlennBeck.com" and to "make sure that it is also included in our email newsletter."

Beck: [T]hey're mocking God" At one point during the segment, Beck suggested that the participants were "just mocking God by faking a prayer to Obama."

Baker highlights Gamaliel ties to Obama. Baker stated:

Gamaliel is -- here's why Gamaliel is important. They were a community organizing group based in Chicago. They now have a national reach. But when Barack Obama got out of Columbia, right -- so this goes back to some of the earliest days for him -- it was the Gamaliel Foundation that essentially brought him to Chicago. It was -- you know, they interviewed him. They, in fact, on their website, say he was an organizer and trainer for us. They used Woods Fund money to sponsor the subsidiary group that Obama worked on.

Baker later added of the organization that a "very important person there was Celia [sic] Muñoz, who is now in the White House. She's the director of intergovernmental affairs." Beck replied: "So, wait a minute. The lady who used to run this group, that was praying to Obama, is now in the White House?"

Video posted on Beck's blog. At 10:39 a.m. ET, video of the participants was posted on Beck's blog with the text: "Is this group saying a prayer to Barack Obama? Glenn is skeptical. Are they saying 'Obama' or 'Oh God?' Are they praising the president or just mocking religion? Turn up the volume and see what you hear. (Unless you're at work, where you would look a little nuts.)"

Gamaliel Foundation responds: "At no time, however, have we prayed to President Barack Obama." Beck's blog post was later updated with the Gamaliel Foundation's response, in which they stated:

As a faith-based organization, it is customary for Gamaliel Foundation affiliates to begin and end every action with prayer. At no time, however, have we prayed to President Barack Obama. In the form of call and response, those who took part in the UnitedHealthcare action can be heard saying, "Hear our cry oh God," "Deliver us oh God," etc.

It is obvious that those who took the time to distort our sincere action for healthcare reform, by posting their own edited version on the Internet, are against what we believe is a fundamental right. It is also obvious that those who are against healthcare reform will stoop to any level to stop what Dr. Martin Luther King called, one of the greatest forms of inequality.

Beck relies heavily on Breitbart in attacks. In recent weeks, Beck has been credited with precipitating the resignation of White House "green jobs" adviser Van Jones, the reassignment of National Endowment for the Arts communications director Yosi Sergant, and the amplification of an anti-ACORN video produced by a conservative filmmaker. In all three instances, Beck has credited the "instrumental" work of conservative columnist and Web publisher Andrew Breitbart, who has a history of smearing progressives and making inflammatory statements.

Lou Dobbs claimed video of people "literally praying" to Obama "exposes, again, very dangerous forces at work in this country"

Dobbs urged his listeners to watch the "stunning new video" of organizers "literally praying to" Obama. From the September 29 broadcast of Dobbs' radio show:

DOBBS: Well, a stunning new video uncovered by the good folks at Breitbart. Go to LouDobbs.com to see our full video, and we urge you to see it, because it exposes, again, very dangerous forces at work in this country, supporting our supreme leader. Are you getting the feeling that Senator Hillary Clinton did not quite know who she was up against?

Now, this video shows members of the community organizing group the Gamaliel Foundation literally praying to our supreme leader over health care back in December of 2008. You've got to hear this. Well, before, let me just set it up a bit.

The president has, throughout his career, made repeated references to his time as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago. Well, the Gamaliel Foundation is a community organizing group that helped sponsor Obama's initial work in Chicago. And on LouDobbs.com, we posted for you the full connection between Obama and Gamaliel. He was a director, by the way, of a Gamaliel affiliate. He has supported Gamaliel throughout the years, conducting training at their national leadership training events, at the African-American Leadership Commission, and he's attended their public meetings. Their website says, "We are honored and blessed by the connection between Barack and Gamaliel."

And according to their 2007 tax-return files -- now, get ready for this -- the money from the organization comes from several leftist sources including the Open Society Institute -- of George Soros -- Arka Foundation, the Bauman Family Foundation, Marguerite Casey Foundation, the Ford Foundation for Freedoms Fund, W.K. Kellogg Foundation, the Surdna Foundation, the Tides Foundation, Peter B. Lewis, and others.

Wow. That's a home run list of left-wing power in this country.

With that, listen to, "Hear our cry, Obama."

[begin audio clip]

UNKNOWN WOMAN: We are here for the healing of the nation.

CROWD: Yes.

UNKNOWN WOMAN: To the prophet Jeremiah, we cry out.

[end audio clip]

DOBBS: Well, that is a remarkable, remarkable -- you've got to see this. Go to LouDobbs.com to see the whole tape. It will, I guarantee you, put chills down your back.

Dobbs also posted video of "group pray[ing] *to* Obama." A September 29 "On Lou's Radar" post to Dobbs' blog -- headlined "Hear Our Prayer, Obama!" - stated, "You must see this video from Dec. 4, 2008, this group prayed *to* Obama to pass health care reform: Deliver us, Obama!" The post included embedded video of the organizers praying.

Dobbs walks in Beckstep. This is only the latest example of Dobbs following Beck's lead in his reporting. Lou Dobbs has recently pushed a number of the same right-wing narratives that have been aggressively championed by Beck, has defended Beck's remarks, and has praised his reporting. In recent weeks, Dobbs -- like Beck -- has called for a "rigorous investigation" of ACORN and said that unless there is a "full-blown FBI investigation," then it will amount to "a sham"; has pushed the conservative attack that the NEA is "politicizing the arts"; has decried as "propaganda" a documentary video; and has defended Beck's comments that Obama is a "racist" with a "deep-seated hatred for white people."

Prominent conservative blogs also ran with the video

Michelle Malkin posts, then questions video. Fox News contributor Michelle Malkin linked to the Breitbart.tv post and posted the video to her website under the headline "Creepy O-cult video of the day: 'Deliver us Obama!' " She subsequently updated her post, writing, "Ed Morrissey asks if it's just bad acoustics. Are they saying 'Obama' or 'Oh, God?' " The following screenshot was taken of Malkin's website at 7:08 p.m. ET:

HotAir.com's Ed Morrissey posts, then walks back the claim. After posting the video under the headline, "Video: Community organizers pray to their new deity, or something," Morrissey added the following update: "Or do they? After a couple of repetitions, I'm not sure if they're saying 'Obama' or 'Oh God'." He then posted a poll to "see what everyone thinks" about who the Gamaliel Foundation was praying to. The following screenshot was taken from HotAir.com at 7:11 p.m. ET:

Gateway Pundit: "Stunner. Community Organizers Pray to Obama (Video)." From the blog Gateway Pundit at 5 p.m. ET:

Townhall.com's Greg Hengler: "Community Organizers Pray To President-Elect Obama: 'Hear our cry Obama!' 'Deliver us Obama!' " From Townhall.com at 4 p.m. ET.

Atlas Shrugs: "Video: Praying to Obama: 'Deliver Us Obama.' " From the blog Atlas Shrugs at 4 p.m. ET:

RedState: Community Organizer Group Prays to Obama [...] This is unbelievable." From RedState.com at 4 p.m. ET:

From the September 29 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program:

BECK: Let me go to Scott Baker now from Breitbart.tv. Scott, welcome to the program.

BAKER: Hey, Glenn. How you doing?

BECK: I saw this video yesterday, and disturbing, disturbing stuff. Is it up on the website yet?

BAKER: Just went up seconds ago. I'm making sure that it's still there, and it is. Yeah, it's the top left story on Breitbart.tv right now.

PAT GRAY (contributing editor): Scott, you lie. This didn't happen. It did not happen.

BURGUIERE: It's not there.

BAKER: Well, now, after the --

BURGUIERE: It's not there.

BAKER: I mean, I know, Pat, that you probably have a prayer closet where you kneel to chant to the president.

GRAY: Well, only in secret, though. I don't, you know --

BAKER: Right. Out in public -- I mean, that's a different thing.

BECK: Scott, tell me about --

BAKER: Isn't this the case that after we've seen all these videos of the kids being used to sing and chant these praises that -- last night, we discovered video from when the president had been elect-- he was the president-elect. This was last December. And the Gamaliel Foundation, a very important organization in Obama's life, they were having an organizing conference in the Washington area. And this video shows the group in a demonstration for health care in an event that you have -- I think you could only characterize it as a prayer to Obama.

BECK: Could you --

BAKER: Not for Obama. They're literally chanting and saying, "Deliver us, Obama."

BECK: Hold on just a second.

BAKER: "Hear us, Obama."

BECK: Hold on just a second. Stu, get Chris Brady on the phone. Link to the front-page top story on the front page of GlennBeck.com to this video and then make sure that it is also included in our email newsletter, which is now, I'm told, 30,000 away from beating the subscription of The New York Times. Unbelievable.

[audio from video begins in background]

BECK: Here is the video now. Now, Scott, they're chanting what when they come in originally?

BAKER: The -- there's a -- as I said, it was a health care demonstration. So this is -- and it was a gathering of religious leaders. All right? So, the Gam-- because the Gamaliel Foundation has its organization in organizing faith-based groups.

[background audio ends]

BAKER: So here are the religious leaders. They're coming to call for health care reform. They're at this leadership assembly. It's in D.C. Early December. And they come in -- and I've been trying identify who the woman is. But as they come in, they're going, "Everybody in; nobody out." This is their "health care for all" slogan.

BECK: OK.

BAKER: I don't know if the woman is a minister, but she's dressed like one.

BECK: OK.

BAKER: She's got kind of a white robe.

BECK: Now, is she the one that is the shorter one and has this, like, green or blue -- I don't even know what you would call them -- but the things that come around the --

BAKER: Vestments, I guess?

BECK: Yeah, the vestments.

BAKER: I was a Baptist. We didn't have -- they didn't wear the robes, but -- so, I'm less familiar with the [unintelligible]

BECK: So, yeah. She's got those big, long things -- I can't remember what -- and here I was raised Catholic. I can't remember what they were. But she has them around her neck, and she's in white robes. And then who is the guy standing next to her? Do you know?

BAKER: Don't know yet. We're just going through some of the material. Literally, this was -- either the video has been up on the site for a year. Didn't have hardly any views. I found maybe one site that had put a link to it a couple of months ago, but it didn't seem to get any play. And then last night, one of the people that watches our B-Cast show put it into one of our forums and said -- a forum that our viewers kind of create -- and said, "Hey, check this out." And we'd already been working on stuff about Gamaliel.

BURGUIERE: What is Gamaliel?

BAKER: Gamaliel is -- here's why Gamaliel is important. They were a community organizing group based in Chicago. They now have a national reach. But when Barack Obama got out of Columbia, right -- so this goes back to some of the earliest days for him -- it was the Gamaliel Foundation that essentially brought him to Chicago. It was -- you know, they interviewed him. They, in fact, on their website, say he was an organizer and trainer for us. They used Woods Fund money to sponsor the subsidiary group that Obama worked on.

BECK: OK. That is the one where he served on the board with Bill Ayers.

BAKER: Right, right. And while a lot of this is -- you know, beyond just the shock of, like, "I cannot believe you people are standing there saying" -- I mean, literally, the prayer is -- and I don't know how audible it'll be on the radio.

BECK: Let's -- you know what? Here it is, here it is. Play a little bit of this here, Pat.

[begin audio clip]

UNKNOWN WOMAN: [unintelligible]

CROWD: Yes.

UNKNOWN WOMAN: To the prophet Jeremiah, we cry out, "Is there no balm in Gilead? Is there no physician here? Why then has the health of my poor people not been restored?"

CROWD: Hear our cry, oh God.

[end audio clip]

BECK: Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. What did they just say here, Scott?

BAKER: "Hear our cry, Obama."

BECK: Play it back, please. Go back. And she's saying, "Why is there no health care?" Or -- do you have the transcript?

BAKER: I've just started to transcribe it, so I'm not done yet. And as soon as I have the full transcript, I'll put it onto the post on Breitbart TV.

BECK: All right.

[begin audio clip]

UNKNOWN WOMAN: "Why then has the health of my poor people not been restored?"

CROWD: Hear our cry, oh God.

[end audio clip]

GRAY: "Hear our cry, Obama," I think.

BAKER: Yeah, it's like, "Why has not the health care of our people been the story?" And it looks like to me -- I don't know if, to you -- if you can see this. They have a -- there was a fellow playing a trombone --

BECK: Yes.

BAKER: -- as they marched in, much kind of like a funeral march you might see in New Orleans.

BECK: Yes.

BAKER: And it looks like they were carrying a casket.

BECK: Casket.

BAKER: Right.

BECK: OK. So, hang on just a second. So, what could be said is that this is just a mock funeral. That's all this is. This is just a mock funeral. These people are -- they're not really ministers, and there's not really a casket there. This is just a mock funeral, and they're -- are you ready for this? Like it makes it better. They're just mocking God by faking a prayer to Obama. Making him God, but only in a mocking sort of way.

BAKER: [laughter]

BECK: I mean, you get the golden calf.

GRAY: Oh, that's a lot better. That's --

BECK: That's a lot better, isn't it?

GRAY: That's way better.

BECK: Yeah.

[...]

BAKER: Well, here's the -- and I'm going to look at that immediately when we get off. One of the things that you're going to see is, we'd -- what we'd already been working on and with a piece that we're going to have done maybe tonight that goes back and looks at all -- tries to tie together a lot of the threads of things you've been talking about, about Wade Rathke and ACORN and how he had this idea to pull together these groups and how they kind of created the factory that built the vehicle that Obama rode to the White House. But Gamaliel from -- this group that you're looking at, very important person there was Celia [sic] Muñoz, who is now in the White House. She's the director of intergovernmental affairs. And so I think that it -- it's like you keep wondering --

BECK: OK.

BAKER: -- when you uncover the next stone --

GRAY: Good God.

BAKER: -- we've got to have already seen it all. But each time you do, there's more there.

BECK: So, wait a minute. The lady who used to run this group, that was praying to Obama, is now in the White House?

BAKER: Yes. Yeah. I'm trying to look at what her title was at Gamaliel. It might take me a second. I do know -- and this was another interesting --

BECK: Good God almighty.

BAKER: This was another interesting principle. In -- I found this Investor's Business Daily article about Gamaliel.

BECK: Hang on just a second, hang on. We've only got 10 seconds. I'm going to take a break. Back with Scott Baker from the -- from Breitbart.tv. And new footage out on prayer to Obama.

[...]

BECK: Let me go to Scott Baker, who's from Breitbart.tv. And Scott, are you -- can you be ready tonight and join me on tonight's television show just to talk about who this woman is. What is her name again?

BAKER: Cecilia Muñoz. And I was able to pull some stuff together during the break. The tie here is that she, actually, for a long time, had been the senior VP at the National Council of La Raza. That was a group that came up in part during the [Sonia] Sotomayor hearings because of her work with them.

BECK: In case you don't --

GRAY: They're a lovely group.

BECK: Well, in case you don't speak Spanish, that would be "the race."

GRAY: "The race." Where their slogan is, "For the race" --

BAKER: Right.

GRAY: -- "all, and if you're not of the race, nothing." Something like that. It's loosely translated.

BECK: Oh, well that's good.

GRAY: Yeah.

BAKER: And she -- what the importance here on Gamaliel -- and -- because I was crossing one name with another. She organized a meeting at the White House for Gamaliel. I'm trying to look for the date here. Brought them -- you know, Gamaliel put out on their newsletter that a delegation from Gamaliel, the group that had been praying to Obama in that video, just six months earlier went to the White House this last June and the -- what we're looking at again is the relationships. This is relationships and patterns. I found another -- just an interesting --

BECK: Hold on just a second. What was her title -- before you move on -- what was her title at La Raza?

BAKER: She was senior vice president, I think.

BECK: Senior vice president. Isn't this the group that believes that California should be returned to Mexico? What is the name of that?

GRAY: Azlan. [sic]

BECK: Azlan.

From the September 29 broadcast of United Stations Radio Networks' The Lou Dobbs Show:

DOBBS: Well, a stunning new video uncovered by the good folks at Breitbart. Go to LouDobbs.com to see our full video, and we urge you to see it, because it exposes, again, very dangerous forces at work in this country, supporting our supreme leader. Are you getting the feeling that Senator Hillary Clinton did not quite know who she was up against?

Now, this video shows members of the community organizing group the Gamaliel Foundation literally praying to our supreme leader over health care back in December of 2008. You've got to hear this. Well, before, let me just set it up a bit.

The president has, throughout his career, made repeated references to his time as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago. Well, the Gamaliel Foundation is a community organizing group that helped sponsor Obama's initial work in Chicago. And on LouDobbs.com, we posted for you the full connection between Obama and Gamaliel. He was a director, by the way, of a Gamaliel affiliate. He has supported Gamaliel throughout the years, conducting training at their national leadership training events, at the African-American Leadership Commission, and he's attended their public meetings. Their website says, "We are honored and blessed by the connection between Barack and Gamaliel."

And according to their 2007 tax-return files -- now, get ready for this -- the money from the organization comes from several leftist sources including the Open Society Institute -- of George Soros -- Arka Foundation, the Bauman Family Foundation, Marguerite Casey Foundation, the Ford Foundation for Freedoms Fund, W.K. Kellogg Foundation, the Surdna Foundation, the Tides Foundation, Peter B. Lewis, and others.

Wow. That's a home run list of left-wing power in this country.

With that, listen to, "Hear our cry, Obama."

[begin audio clip]

UNKNOWN WOMAN: We are here for the healing of the nation.

CROWD: Yes.

UNKNOWN WOMAN: To the prophet Jeremiah, we cry out.

[end audio clip]

DOBBS: Well, that is a remarkable, remarkable -- you've got to see this. Go to LouDobbs.com to see the whole tape. It will, I guarantee you, put chills down your back.

In another note, the Gamaliel Foundation is a sponsoring organization of the Immigrant Workers Freedom Ride Coalition, which is trying to secure ever-expanding rights, civil liberties, protections for illegal immigrants and policy reforms that diminish or eliminate restrictions at all on immigration.

And by the way, the Open Society, one of their former top people is on a group that is trying to get me, that's come after me from the left. By the way, that would be a registered left-wing foreign agent, called The Atlantic Philanthropies, involved in that demonstration suggesting that I am somehow racist because I oppose illegal immigration in this country.

Their reasoning is pretty straightforward: I oppose illegal immigration and open borders. Most of the people crossing our borders and most of the illegal immigrants in this country are Hispanic. Therefore, I am not illegal -- anti-illegal immigration, not anti-open borders, I'm anti-Hispanic. And, by the way, they wonder why they can't sell that nonsense to anyone but a very closed loop of left-wing bizarros.

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    • Author by DellDolly (September 30, 2009 12:31 am ET)
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      The only way someone could 'think' that the people were saying "Obama" instead of "oh God" is is one had a preconceived notion about what Obama supporters would say. It's pretty clear that the people are saying "oh God". It's a common recitation in many churches.

      But all these right wingers got roped in. The enthusiasm and the lengths that righty's went to on blog comments to insist that it was "Obama" was comical, but really frustrating too.

      We can see how the blinders that these people wear didn't allow them to see (hear) reality.
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      • Author by Brabantio (September 30, 2009 9:22 am ET)
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        The only way someone could 'think' that the people were saying "Obama" instead of "oh God" is is one had a preconceived notion about what Obama supporters would say.
        And this is where the true genius of the Obama nomination is revealed.

        1)Millions of Republican men believe they hear "Obama" instead of "Oh God"

        2)Accusations of adulterous relationships with Obama go through the roof

        3)Divorce rates among Republican couples skyrockets

        4)Birth rates among Republican families plummet, reducing future Republican voters

        Brilliant!
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      • Author by themidnightreview.com (September 30, 2009 10:46 am ET)
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        Maybe if they reported on actual news, people would take them seriously.

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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (October 02, 2009 8:48 am ET)
           
        Thaaaaaaaaaat's riiiiiiiiiiight!

        And although there really will be no loss of credability here - most of these clowns had none to begin with except with the Baracknaphobes out there who don't care about FACTS or RELAITY anyway - these guys making utter fools of themselves before the rest of us could have been avoided.

        All they had to do was practice some actual, basic JOURNALISM. IOW: Don't believe everything you hear, especially from partisan sources, and vet your evidence six time over before you air it.

        Instead, these guys learned what happens when you start really believeing your own b*llsh!t. You see, I don't think Fox relly believed it. They know what they're doing, and the smear there was intentional. They don't even reallytry to objective and they know it. But I think Dobbs still fancies himself a news man. And apparently believes that's what Briebart and Fox are. And so he started believing the b*llsh!t. And he got burned.

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        b*llsh!t (I love that word!)
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    • Author by fawltylogic (September 30, 2009 1:39 am ET)
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      They'll be eating this crow for a long time. Not that they care, but it's hilarious to mock them.
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      • Author by Haram Kufar (September 30, 2009 11:22 am ET)
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        Before the day is over, there will be some new crap they throw against the wall that will make their followers forget about this.
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    • Author by fawltylogic (September 30, 2009 1:41 am ET)
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      Lou Dobbs claimed video of people "literally praying" to Obama "exposes, again, very dangerous forces at work in this country"


      Well, Lou Dobbs WAS right, just not in the way he thinks.
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      • Author by skatscan5624 (October 02, 2009 3:51 am ET)
           
        And if they WERE praying to Obama? There is a freedom of religion. I thought?
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (September 30, 2009 7:55 am ET)
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      Are the people who think that others pray to Barack Obama actually insane? Do these folks ever consider the improbability and lack of reasoning in their wild accusations? And are they being manipulated by a few cynical political operatives who know how gullible "regular" folks are? Reasonable questions in unreasonable times...
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      • Author by mary59 (September 30, 2009 10:17 am ET)
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        Proud Con posted this yesterday, proof of how gullible "regular" folks are...at least those who are desperately trying to find any negative they can and see sinister things in everything about our Prez.
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        • Author by congero6189599 (September 30, 2009 12:43 pm ET)
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          I bet next week some other con who hasn't gotten the memo will post this as proof of indoctrination...watch. :-)
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      • Author by fawltylogic (September 30, 2009 10:24 am ET)
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        Confirmation bias

        Confirmation bias (or myside bias[1]) is an irrational tendency to search for, interpret or remember information in a way that confirms preconceptions or working hypotheses. It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning.
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        • Author by DellDolly (September 30, 2009 11:53 am ET)
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          Thanks for that link. I knew that there had to be a name for what they're doing all the time.
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    • Author by magnolialover (September 30, 2009 8:06 am ET)
      8  
      They'll take up anything these days.

      I just read a story where the RNC and republicans are coming out against Obama going to Denmark to lobby for the Olympics to be in Chicago. As if the man can't take one day to fly over, shake some hands, talk to a few folks, and try to get the Olympic games BACK on American soil. It's not as if he's taking a month off to go and clear brush.

      Bear in mind, these are the same jokers who kept telling us that Bush being on vacation is just like him being at work, because, you know, the Crawford Ranch is just like the White House, and he can do work there, just as easy as he can in Washington. If stands to reason, then AF-1 must be a GREAT place to do work. A sort of long flight, all of the communications you could want, staff on board, press on board.

      It's official. When republicans don't seem to want the President to rally for the Olympic games, they are officially against EVERYTHING Obama wants to do. Oh, and you know who else wanted the Olympic games? HITLER!!! And the USSR!
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      • Author by bintx (September 30, 2009 9:49 am ET)
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        The Olympic games bring people and MONEY into the host country. The Olympic games create JOBS . . . construction jobs for the various event forums, advertising and public relations jobs, service jobs, and many more. Why the heck would anybody in their right mind object to the President lobbying for the Olympics to come to our country? Other world leaders do it. Makes good ECONOMIC sense.
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        • Author by DellDolly (September 30, 2009 11:55 am ET)
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          Some times the Olympics are a net loss, not a net profit. If you have to build a lot of venues that won't have other uses down the road, then it costs too much. That shouldn't be the case with Chicago based on what I've read.
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        • Author by puppienrainbows (September 30, 2009 12:56 pm ET)
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          I will STRONGLY disagree that an Olympic hosting brings prosperity. The initial build-up and construction of the event can bring jobs and briefly improve a local economy, but the long term impact of the event usually impairs the hosting economy. Montreal is a perfect example. Chicago would be a disaster. The corruption factor, alone, should persuade the Olympic committee to look elsewhere. This is all show and bluster by mmm mmm mmm Barack Hussein Obama and his equally delicious wife. Has Penthouse contacted Michelle yet? Just wondering.
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          • Author by Welfare-Warfare State (September 30, 2009 1:15 pm ET)
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            Excellent points. The economic concept is known as the broken window fallacy. It is like the person who assumes that breaking a window creates work for the window glazer and that in turn creates work for the glazer's suppliers and so on. The key point that is missed is what is not seen. Where would that money (representing goods and services in the economy) have been spent if it weren't used to replace destructon. The cities who build convention centers, sports stadiums, olympic venues,etc. all make the same conceptual error. It misdirects buying power decisons from actors in the economy ( the people who created the wealth that the paper money represents afterall) to government bureaucracies who have no profit/loss tests to determine if they are using finite resources(that have alternative uses) efficiently.
            Cheers!
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            • Author by Old_Benjamin (September 30, 2009 7:20 pm ET)
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              The cities who build convention centers, sports stadiums, olympic venues,etc. all make the same conceptual error. It misdirects buying power decisons from actors in the economy ( the people who created the wealth that the paper money represents afterall) to government bureaucracies who have no profit/loss tests to determine if they are using finite resources(that have alternative uses) efficiently.


              Silly - it's the mulitnational coprorations that dictate the spending for olympics.
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              • Author by Welfare-Warfare State (September 30, 2009 8:31 pm ET)
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                The host nations and the cities that put on the Olympics spend an incredible amount of money on infrastructure, security, personnel, recruitment of the Olympic Commitee(bribery frequently), advertising and countless other expenses. This is separate from corporations. They try to recoup some of their expenses through corporate sponsorship, but it's not nearly enough. Hosting the Olympics is more about ego gratificattion for host countries and cities than anything else. The Olympics are a net loss economically in the long run. Don't confuse me with a corporatist. I am a classical liberal; not to be confused with the statists who hijacked the term and turned its originally meaning on its' head.
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                • Author by Old_Benjamin (October 01, 2009 11:33 am ET)
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                  Don't confuse me with a corporatist. I am a classical liberal;
                  wws

                  If this were true, you would know that all public expenses for these types of circuses are for the benfit of the multinational corporations. Socialized costs for privatized profits.
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            • Author by skatscan5624 (October 02, 2009 3:56 am ET)
                 
              That's not the broken window philosophy. The broken window philosophy is if you have a broken window and you don't fix it, more broken windows will occur and the neighborhood will go downhill.

              That said, I personally think Detroit would be a better host city for the reason that it could use the development, the infrastructure improvements, and less people would be displaced.
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          • Author by Brabantio (September 30, 2009 1:16 pm ET)
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            Why don't we just cancel the whole thing, then? If it's such a burden, why should anyone have to host it, much less compete for the opportunity?

            What the hell is the Penthouse reference all about? You seem a bit unhinged here.
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            • Author by Old_Benjamin (September 30, 2009 7:24 pm ET)
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              I'm all for one city (Athens for Summer Games and some other place for the winter games) to be designated as permanent host and then participants could pony up to cover the building and ongoing maintenance costs. Any profits could be split based on the participating country's investment.
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 30, 2009 2:21 pm ET)
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            Not necessarily true. It all depends on how the money is spent. I noticed the only city you mention is Montreal, as if Montreal is somehow equivalent to Chicago. If there is a significant contribution from private funds and the majority of public funds are used on infrastructure and urban renewal and projects that will be valuable after the Game are gone, it can be very lucrative.

            Atlanta did quite well. They now have Centennial Park, Turner Field, their local colleges were given several million dollars worth of infrastructure and upgrades, and their downtown was revitalized with several billion dollars of the next several years coming in. That is why cities fight over the chance to host the Olympics.

            Also, I know you hate Obama so much that we are now all supposed to pretend that one of our largest cities is filled with nothing but corrupt criminals, but it makes you sound like a nut when you make these pathetic assumptions about Chicago. And, no one wants to hear about your masturbatory fantasies concerning his wife.
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            • Author by skatscan5624 (October 02, 2009 3:58 am ET)
                 
              Never mind the fact that Chicago has some of the best architecture, a great arts community, and is one of the most vibrant cities in the world despite the cold weather in the winter. Montreal. One city they always cite. Out of how many?
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          • Author by martel (September 30, 2009 3:05 pm ET)
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            A U.S. city hosting the Olympics would be nothing short of a disaster after the Beijing Olympics. The right-wingnutters know this and are just trying to avoid the international embarrassment resulting from any attempt to compete with that memory.

            They know that their irrational military, economic and political policies of the last 30 years have just about completely destroyed this country; and although they're quite proud of what they've done, they don't want the humiliating reality shoved in their faces for everyone else to see.
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (September 30, 2009 3:14 pm ET)
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            Hey pups - how about looking at a U.S. hosted olympics, you know, like the 1984 games in L.A. that TURNED A PROFIT.

            From the IOC:

            1984 Los Angeles $225 million profit

            1988 Seoul $342 million profit

            1992 Barcelona $5 million profit

            1996 Atlanta $10 million profit

            2000 Sydney $1.7 BILLION profit

            So, based on history, Chicago would NOT be a disaster. Fail again.
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            • Author by Old_Benjamin (September 30, 2009 7:16 pm ET)
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              You are taking this information from the IOC? The games are a scam on the taxpayers. More of socializing risk and privitizing profit.

              Not to mention the toll on the most vulnerable.

              "The truth is, the Olympic Games have always been a bad thing for the region that hosts them. They involve massive long-term changes to regional infrastructure to accommodate a two-week influx of tourists and athletes." Toronto University sociology professor Helen Jefferson Lenskyj, author of Inside the Olympic Industry, claims that "the whole agenda [of the Olympics] is dominated by multinationals."


              She has written a book on this subject...

              http://www.ecampus.com/bk_detail.asp?isbn=0791447561

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          • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (September 30, 2009 5:42 pm ET)
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            I will STRONGLY disagree that an Olympic hosting brings prosperity.
            Then you are STRONGLY an ignorant fool.
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            • Author by National_Insecurity (October 01, 2009 8:25 pm ET)
                 
              Business model for Olympics is radically different today. Geez, people don't have any business sense about why Chicago wants the 5 rings.

              The Olympics of Montreal era was amateur athletes, minimal corporate sponsorship and minimal commercialism. Lots of nationalism and ego, but minimal commercialism.

              That all changed with 1984 LA Olympics which was Reagan-style "If you can't run for big sponsorship money, don't put on the shoes." Big bucks. Forget fame, show me the money. Top athletes pulling in a couple million a year with sponsorship deals.
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          • Author by peace4all (September 30, 2009 11:13 pm ET)
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            wow, you really have nothing anymore do you? most cities that host the olympics have made money both in the short term and over the long run. thats why cities fight so hard to have them hosted there. to compare the montreal games to others is apples and oranges. montreal had alot of other problems that conributed to their money loss at that time. quebec was going thru major stagflation at the time. we have a wounded economy but nothing on the scale it was for quebec. they were also going thru political turmoil at the time. we have no such turmoil. what we have is a fight in the democrat party about the way forward. the republicans and the rest of the screaming wingers are really pretty irrelevent and mostly just background noise. when you bring the olympics to your country you showcase yourself to the world as a gracious host and world competitor. you would think you nutjobs would want that for your country. why do you guys hate america so much?
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            • Author by National_Insecurity (October 01, 2009 8:21 pm ET)
                 
              The Montreal of today is just delightful. I was there recently for a medical conference.

              The streets of full of people walking here and there with SMILES on their faces rather than frowns. Lots of energy, youth, and good food too. Vibrant night life that rivals NYC without the fear factor. The few street people I encountered were polite and passive - not the typical US psychotics. I walked around the old city as well as a few hip neighborhoods (there are a lot of hip neighborhoods). I look forward to returning.
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            • Author by skatscan5624 (October 02, 2009 4:10 am ET)
                 
              Did Fox News ever apologize for the crack they made after London won the rights to the 2012 Olympics? You remember, Shortly after they won the rights, the bombings occurred, hundred plus killed and they made the crack that it was too bad Paris didn't win the rights to it.
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          • Author by liberalXtian (October 01, 2009 3:08 pm ET)
               
            Don't bash Chicago! It was Salt Lake City (Mormon Country) that had the bribery scandal over the 2002 Olympics.
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          • Author by blk-in-alabam (October 01, 2009 8:28 pm ET)
               
            You low down dirty dog!!!!!!!! pervert!!!!! You little puppy chasing a rainbow
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    • Author by Haram Kufar (September 30, 2009 11:20 am ET)
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      Did anyone see "Jesus Camp"? In that movie, the folks were speaking in tongues and praying to a cardboard cutout of George W. Bush.
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      • Author by magnolialover (September 30, 2009 12:33 pm ET)
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        Yep, saw it. Own the movie. It's a good view inside of the right wing religious cult.
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    • Author by pete592 (September 30, 2009 11:45 am ET)
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      If right-wing professional liars are stupid enough to bite on anything and run with it, maybe there's a strategy waiting to be exploited here that can really expose them for the zealous buffoons they are.
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    • Author by Welfare-Warfare State (September 30, 2009 12:59 pm ET)
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      Of course community organizers (read:socialists) don't pray to Obama. How absurd! They, like all good "progressives," place their prayer mats on the floor facing the Leviathan in D.C. I think this is done 3 times daily, but other posters will have to confirm it.
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      • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (September 30, 2009 2:40 pm ET)
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        Communist organizers are the WORST!!!! They pray like Muslims, who also hate America and want to harm its citizens. Not to mention the blacks and the Jews!!!!!11!!!!!
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      • Author by Handsome Pete (September 30, 2009 5:00 pm ET)
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        Exactly how many progessives do you actually know?
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        • Author by political_left-religious_right (October 01, 2009 3:06 pm ET)
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          He certainly doesn't know many of us, and probably doesn't know Jesus Christ, either.
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    • Author by Welfare-Warfare State (September 30, 2009 1:05 pm ET)
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      The community organizer fights for social justice (pause for laughter.....continue reading). This just means that they view the state as a mechanism to steal what they coulnd't get by their own merits. The term "social justice" was originally coined by Karl Marx by the way. If you are a moral man and you hear the word's social justice, hide your wallet. It is the sound of the looter ringing his bell just before he attempts to use the force of the state to confiscate the product of your labor.
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 30, 2009 2:23 pm ET)
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        Great. Yet another simple mind fueled by the right wing entertainers on TV and radio that does not understand basic concepts like socialism and Marxism.
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      • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (September 30, 2009 2:42 pm ET)
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        KARL MARX!!! FASCIST!!!! TELEPROMPTER!!!!! ACORN!!!!!! GGRAAAAAAAGGGGH!!!!
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      • Author by pros2pros2940 (September 30, 2009 3:27 pm ET)
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        O.......K.

        Clearly you've bee duped again by right wing talkers and cannot think for yourself in any way. Repeating silly talking points only exposes you as one able to "parrot" what you hear. It is not a demonstration of knowledge.
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      • Author by congero6189599 (September 30, 2009 5:43 pm ET)
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        WWS we are laughing at you, not with you . :-)
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      • Author by skatscan5624 (October 02, 2009 4:13 am ET)
           
        Glad YOU laugh at your jokes, someone needs to.
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    • Author by birdjay (September 30, 2009 4:19 pm ET)
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      This completely changes my mind about the Right. They have finally crossed the line and distorted something as innocent as a prayer and tried to make it all about Obama.

      Andrew Breitbart, Glenn Beck, Lou Dobbs, and all those nutty right-wing web sites have just gone toooooo far now.

      Media Matters thanks for your objective analysis. What would the world do without a wonderful organization such as yours to keep these nuts at bay?

      By the way, isn't Media Matters a non-partisan group?

      When was the last time you investigated something that the Left has done? Did you do an expose' on the Dan Rather Memogate that was perpetrated by the Legacy Media?

      I don't recall that?

      Guess I should retract that non-partisan idea.

      But, great work, and big deal. Let me know when Obama has his next meeting with the General fighting that "good" war in Afghanistan, or if he's too busy pimping Chitown's Olympic bid.

      Morons.
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      • Author by Brabantio (October 01, 2009 11:37 am ET)
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        That would have been some brilliant analysis, except you didn't address how right-wingers were lying about how people were supposedly praying to Obama. Is lying acceptable if it's not pointed out by an objective source?

        I assume you go to Newsbusters and rant about how they don't investigate the right-wing bias on FOX news, right?

        Quit whining because these conservatives are proven liars. If you don't like it, try to get better representatives for your ideology.
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      • Author by congero6189599 (October 01, 2009 1:42 pm ET)
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        Morons?!? birdjay your like that runner in the race that is so far behind he thinks he's leading. non-partisan where did you read that?
        MMFA mission statement says nothing about being non-partisan:


        Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.

        Launched in May 2004, Media Matters for America put in place, for the first time, the means to systematically monitor a cross section of print, broadcast, cable, radio, and Internet media outlets for conservative misinformation — news or commentary that is not accurate, reliable, or credible and that forwards the conservative agenda — every day, in real time.

        Using the website mediamatters.org as the principal vehicle for disseminating research and information, Media Matters posts rapid-response items as well as longer research and analytic reports documenting conservative misinformation throughout the media. Additionally, Media Matters works daily to notify activists, journalists, pundits, and the general public about instances of misinformation, providing them with the resources to rebut false claims and to take direct action against offending media institutions.


        Whose the moron now?
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (October 01, 2009 2:55 pm ET)
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        By the way, isn't Media Matters a non-partisan group?
        Why, no, it isn't, but thanks for playing and getting almost everything laughingly wrong.
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        • Author by skatscan5624 (October 02, 2009 4:16 am ET)
             
          They could be though and still would not have enough left wing misinformation to make the web site any larger.
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      • Author by skatscan5624 (October 02, 2009 4:14 am ET)
           
        It didn't change my mind. I've known this since July 4th, 1988.
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    • Author by Anthony (October 01, 2009 12:08 am ET)
         
      Look this people might not be the most intelligent ones but
      they sure are among the most deceptive ones. Such false report and fabricated publications are just there to give them wider publicity and make them even more widespread popular. They cause a lot of fuzz, every can't believe their ears and wants to listen, their page view skyrocket in the sky and they 'won' again. There will be more people out there who believe and hear the same as they are made to believe on that video because of the fuzz every one is making and because that is what most of those people want to hear.
      While nothing happens to people like Breitbart, no concrete punishment, there will not even be an apology nor authentic corrections coming from their sides and their successes will even increase the numbers of idiots wanting to follow in their footsteps to get rich and famous fast.
      Reminds me of what happens to rotten kids who always gets away with lies.
      We always have to be careful not to make them even stronger with our actions/inaction.
      That’s how fascists have always worked in the past; one famous one was named Joseph Goebbels.
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    • Author by Anthony (October 01, 2009 1:14 am ET)
         
      wow. all that distraction while the real children indoctrination got secretly passed under the table?
      Why do I not complete buy this story by Jodi Jacobson in
      RH (righting hood? Reality Check, guys?

      http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2009/09/30/roundup-senate-rejects-big-govt-public-option-but-votes-restore-big-govt-abonly-programs
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    • Author by manofmystique (October 01, 2009 12:49 pm ET)
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      Democrats will be wise NOT to reduce them-selves to the level of stupidity and hate; or engage Republicans in tit for tat debates because that is a battle Democrats can’t win. Republicans are doing all the things the next man won’t, or can’t do.
      Republicans no longer give a damn about their image, integrity or democracy; that makes them dangerous. Their actions are those of a desperate man.
      Republicans are using the media to help distract, distort and mislead and the American people despite the failures of the last eight years in office.
      Republicans throw dirt and lie the way they do believing they have nothing more to lose (after the election).
      If Republicans bring down this President in their current state of mind and regain power America, the great, is DOOMED!!!



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    • Author by stanlee18048 (October 01, 2009 8:07 pm ET)
         
      We can't have a media that works against democracy. President Obama was elected with a far, far greater majority of victory in the popular vote and electoral college than both Bush victories combined. Here we have a media that is made up entirely of corporations and they undermine the will of the people. We can't have a society that says that very rich folks get to control how information is disseminated to the rest of the folks. We just can't have that.
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      • Author by skatscan5624 (October 02, 2009 4:19 am ET)
           
        Actually Obama won with the biggest majority in a party changing election since 1952! Bigger than Reagan, Bush or Nixon.
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    • Author by JohnR (October 01, 2009 8:11 pm ET)
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      1st time to this sight. My my how frightened you are of one little TV station. MMMM MMMM MMMM
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    • Author by alaskanfortruth (October 01, 2009 8:13 pm ET)
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      Every one knows that all those into Black Liberation theology believe that Obama was sent to save them.
      Of course they were saying Obama
      I have heard people chanting Hallelujah Obama too
      He is their savior
      What's the problem, why can't people believe what they want?
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    • Author by alaskanfortruth (October 01, 2009 8:17 pm ET)
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      Every one knows that all those into Black Liberation theology believe that Obama was sent to save them.
      Of course they were saying Obama
      I have heard people chanting Hallelujah Obama
      He is their savior
      Why can't people believe what they want
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    • Author by didi (October 02, 2009 8:22 am ET)
         
      I heard Mark Levin just last night making reference to this.

      Seems that the right wing smear machine takes it's sweet time getting to the truth.
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