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NBC latest to gloss over controversies surrounding O'Keefe

September 24, 2009 10:39 am ET — 45 Comments

In a segment on conservative filmmaker James O'Keefe, NBC correspondent Mara Schiavocampo reported on O'Keefe's hidden camera investigations into ACORN but omitted key facts about the controversy that undermine his credibility. Schiavocampo ignored that O'Keefe falsely claimed that he was never turned away from ACORN offices; that despite claiming to be "absolutely independent," a conservative donor reportedly funded some of his past films; and that O'Keefe was accused by a friend of doctoring transcripts from a previous project.

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O'Keefe falsely claimed every ACORN office visited was complicit

O'Keefe: "None of the facilities kicked us out. That's a lie." During the September 13 edition of Fox News' America's News HQ, senior correspondent Eric Shawn asked O'Keefe, "ACORN says that you went to, what, five other places around the country where they kicked you out. ... [D]id you find ethical, honest ACORN employees in any of the places that you went to that kicked you out and said, 'No, we're not going to do this. We're not going to cooperate. We're not going to have ACORN help you'?" O'Keefe responded that the people at ACORN are "liars" and that he "[a]bsolutely" wanted an apology and later added: "[N]one of the facilities kicked us out. That's a lie."

Philadelphia ACORN Housing official: "[W]e called the police and filed this report." In a YouTube video, Katherine Conway Russell, ACORN Housing Corp.'s Philadelphia office director, stated that O'Keefe visited the office "[l]ast July" with "another woman." Russell stated that "[a]fter asking several general questions, [O'Keefe] began to veer off into suspicious territory." Russell said that O'Keefe eventually "asked about bringing girls from El Salvador and getting them papers, et cetera," but that "I told them that there was nothing we could do to help them, that I didn't know anything about what they were asking about." Russell also said that after she contacted another ACORN official and it became clear that O'Keefe "lied to get his appointment," they contacted the police. ACORN also released a copy of the police report, which claimed that "James O'Keefe" had created a "verbal disturbance" and was asked to leave.

O'Keefe reportedly received donations from conservative activist

Report: Earlier O'Keefe film funded by conservative Peter Thiel. A September 22 Village Voice article reported that despite O'Keefe's claims that he is "absolutely independent," he reportedly received at least $10,000 in donations from PayPal founder and early Facebook investor Peter Thiel:

The ACORN videos are actually just the latest of several films O'Keefe has produced and uploaded to YouTube. An earlier film posted in February, "Taxpayers Clearing House" featured nonwhite, working class people being duped by O'Keefe, who led them to believe they had won money in a sweepstakes.

That video was produced with the help of a grant -- said to be about $30,000 [Thiel's spokesman says closer to $10,000 -- see update] -- from Peter Thiel, one of the founders of PayPal and an early investor in Facebook -- an investment which made him a billionaire. Thiel is one of Silicon Valley's more interesting figures: a gay man (according to Gawker's "Valleywag") who has railed against the evils of "multiculturalism." He lives in San Francisco and today runs a hedge fund.

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O'Keefe told a friend, Liz Farkas, that he had approached Thiel with the idea for the video, and had walked away with "approximately $30,000" to produce it.

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Through a representative, Peter Thiel confirmed that he had funded "Taxpayers Clearing House" through a "small-government group," but denied having any involvement with the ACORN videos. The representative says Thiel first learned of the new O'Keefe videos after they hit the Internet, and having "watched them on YouTube ... he shares the view that taxpayer money should not promote human trafficking." [The Village Voice, 9/22/09]

Thiel reportedly is former member of Federalist Society, critic of multiculturalism and domestic partner benefits. The Village Voice reported that Thiel is the "co-author of The Diversity Myth: 'Multiculturalism' and the Politics of Intolerance at Stanford" and "was also co-founding editor of the conservative Stanford Review and was a member of the Federalist Society, the conservative legal circle that has included Clarence Thomas, Robert Bork and Antonin Scalia." According to The Village Voice, Thiel's book "argues against Stanford instituting domestic partner benefits, complaining 'even in purely economic terms, the costs are substantial. ... The end result is something of a random scrambling of people into 'relationships,' all claiming the right to live off of everyone else.' "

Thiel reportedly may have made ACORN films "financially possible." The Village Voice reported that "[t]hough Thiel denies directly funding O'Keefe's latest videos, Thiel may have made them financially possible anyway. O'Keefe has, in the past, used support from one project to fuel another." From the Village Voice article:

In the same way O'Keefe used equipment from the Leadership Institute to make his future films, he may have made use of Thiel's cash infusion for future projects, too. The "Taxpayers Clearing House" video that Thiel's money made possible was posted just a few months before O'Keefe and Giles set off on their summer adventure. The multiple ACORN videos were shot and produced over the course of more than two months, in San Diego, San Bernardino, Brooklyn, Baltimore and Washington, D.C. (plus an unknown number of other cities, like Philadelphia, where O'Keefe attempted to shoot but the sting failed). [The Village Voice, 9/22/09]

Friend of O'Keefe reportedly objected to past transcript distortion

Report: O'Keefe friend said she "grew disillusioned" with his tactics after being asked to doctor transcript of a past film. A September 18 New York Times article reported that Liz Farkas, a college friend of O'Keefe's while at Rutgers University, said she "grew disillusioned" after O'Keefe asked Farkas to help deceptively "edit the script" of a video involving a nurse at the University of California at Los Angeles. From the Times:

"It was snippets to make the...nurse look bad," Ms. Farkas said. "I said: 'It has no context. You're just cherry-picking the nurse's answers.' He said, 'Okay' -- and then he just ran it."

Transcript

From the September 23 broadcast of NBC's Nightly News with Brian Williams:

WILLIAMS: Tonight, an NBC News exclusive. In his first broadcast network news interview, the young man behind the Candid Camera-like spoof that has caused so much backlash against the group ACORN, he tells his story. ACORN has now filed a lawsuit over his hidden-camera video that got two of its Baltimore office employees fired and touched off a big internal investigation. NBC's Mara Schiavocampo has our story.

[begin video clip]

SCHIAVOCAMPO: This is how most of the world was introduced to James O'Keefe: as a young video producer dressed like a pimp for a hidden-camera investigation into ACORN, the community-advocacy group whose voter registration efforts in disadvantaged communities were targeted by President Obama's opponents last year. And this is how I met him --

O'KEEFE: Yes.

SCHIAVOCAMPO: -- as a soft-spoken self-described radical dealing with an awful lot of new attention --

MAN ON THE STREET: We think you're unbelievable.

SCHIAVOCAMPO: -- that's caught him completely by surprise.

SCHIAVOCAMPO: Did you expect all these repercussions when you started?

O'KEEFE: No.

SCHIAVOCAMPO: Posing as a pimp and prostitute, O'Keefe and Hannah Giles, a friend he met on Facebook, caught ACORN employees in five cities appearing to give advice on tax evasion, human smuggling, and prostitution.

TRESA KAELKE (employee at ACORN's San Bernardino office): If you're just taking money from underage prostitutes -- oh my God. That doesn't sound good.

SCHIAVOCAMPO: O'Keefe says he and Giles spent about $1,300 to fund their trips, though he won't say how many offices they visited.

SCHIAVOCAMPO: Do you consider yourself a conservative?

O'KEEFE: No, I consider myself a progressive radical. I don't really want to conserve anything.

SCHIAVOCAMPO: How do you define yourself? As a journalist, as an activist?

O'KEEFE: I don't have a business card. I mean, I'm too busy doing what I do. I let other people frame it the way they want.

SCHIAVOCAMPO: It's a controversial style O'Keefe has been honing since his college days at Rutgers University. He started with pranks like complaining about Lucky Charms being served in the dining halls.

O'KEEFE: As you can see, we're not all short. I mean -- but we have our differences of height, and we think this is stereotypical of all Irish-Americans.

SCHIAVOCAMPO: And moved on to more outrageous political fare, like calling Planned Parenthood to see if they would accept donations to abort black babies.

O'KEEFE: There's definitely way too many black people in Ohio, so I'm just trying to do my part.

WOMAN ON PHONE CALL: OK, whatever.

SCHIAVOCAMPO: O'Keefe plans to release more ACORN footage in the coming weeks and has already started thinking about his next project.

O'KEEFE: I would hope to be able to do more of these types of things and expose more corruption and do more investigating. Absolutely. I would love to be able to do -- it would be a privilege to be able to do this full-time.

SCHIAVOCAMPO: His hope: that this introduction to the public is the beginning of a long relationship.

Mara Schiavocampo, NBC News, New York.

[end video clip]

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    • Author by dexteritas0071418 (September 24, 2009 10:51 am ET)
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      Going back & forth between Media Matters / HuffPo / Dkos & HumanEvents/RedState/FreeRep is like watching a tennis match between whiny 4-year-olds.

      "You're bad!"

      "No, you're bad!"

      "You're a hater!"

      "No, you're a hater!"

      "This matters (and none of that other stuff does), why isn't the media reporting more on it?? Darn liberal media!"

      "This matters (and none of that other stuff does), why isn't the media reporting more on it?? Darn corporate media!"
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      • Author by Victor Colorado (September 24, 2009 11:06 am ET)
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        It's hard for me to see the pettiness when there's an actual body count for people killed by right wing ideologues that keeps increasing.
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        • Author by dexteritas0071418 (September 24, 2009 11:13 am ET)
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          "It's hard for me to see the pettiness"

          Of course it is...my point exactly.
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          • Author by Victor Colorado (September 24, 2009 11:24 am ET)
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            Your exact point is that it's hard for me to see the pettiness when there's an actual body count for people killed by right wing ideologues that keeps increasing? That's insane.
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            • Author by dexteritas0071418 (September 24, 2009 12:12 pm ET)
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              My exact point is that people like you write stuff like "there's an actual body count for people killed by right wing ideologues that keeps increasing".
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              • Author by Victor Colorado (September 24, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
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                That makes no sense.

                In any event, it looks to me that right wing media's hatred for Planned Parenthood, ACORN, and the Feds can be found in the motivations behind a growing list of killings. The so-called pettiness of "HumanEvents/RedState/FreeRep" appears far more troubling than anything coming from "Media Matters/HuffPo/Dkos". Just my opinion.
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                • Author by Victor Colorado (September 24, 2009 12:53 pm ET)
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                  Oh, by the way, check out the "pettiness" over on Hannity's website:

                  [url=]http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?p=61519191[/url]

                  Just this week I heard another story about the Daniel Boone Forest in Kentucky...odd coincidence, but someone was telling me they stumbled onto a Obama/seiu/acorn retraining camp they have out in the middle of nowhere there. Of course, there's a proper government name for it...but eyewitnesses that mistakenly took it for a welcome center said "there were obama posters plastered all over the walls, along with pro union propaganda about what your government can do for you". of course they didn't get to spend too much time looking around as they were told it was "for employee's only"

                  the fact is, it was government run, so the people who were kicked out of the place were the same people funding the place.

                  and now, I hear about this guy murdered in the very same area....instead of thinking far right, I'm thinking far left.


                  Right wing media is filled with fear-mongering freaks.
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                  • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (September 24, 2009 2:57 pm ET)
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                    Yikes, a secret camp of far leftists may be responsible for the lynching! That is an "odd coincidence" that "someone was telling" the writer about that.

                    I can empathize with the frustration of being thrown out of a place one is funding, even a fictional place.I've just about given up trying to throw my noontime keggers at The Pentagon, with Big Brother making a big deal out of it every time.
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                    • Author by Victor Colorado (September 24, 2009 3:18 pm ET)
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                      I love that you have not given up entirely on throwing a noontime keggers at The Pentagon. Your hope could power a mid-major university for an entire semester.
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                    • Author by albertsenj (September 25, 2009 12:25 am ET)
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                      You do realize now that we have here all of the elements that Fox needs to create a headline: 'Some have said that leftists may be responsible for the lynching'!
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              • Author by sambo (September 25, 2009 4:13 am ET)
                   
                DEX Damned if you don't need to educate yourself,there is a body count
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              • Author by nestor.marcus9536 (September 26, 2009 4:19 pm ET)
                   
                so basically your "point" is to keep on saying, essentially, "i know what you are but what am i" ??
                sounds like you dont have a point worth discussing. now that weve cleared that up, im gonna drop it.
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      • Author by Waring (September 24, 2009 4:00 pm ET)
           
        You mean whiny by pointing out that the side making the accusations is hiding a lot of facts which would leave a lot of what they are saying in a very questionable light?
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    • Author by right ON (September 24, 2009 11:06 am ET)
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      Whistleblowers blowing whistles on organizations or people fiercely protected by rightwingers or leftwingers always jumpstarts these childish little finger pointing games.

      If this were done by some leftwing film makers against some darling of the right, the reactions by all would be the same. They would just take different seats.
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      • Author by dexteritas0071418 (September 24, 2009 11:18 am ET)
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        Not to say that I wouldn't have wanted the reporter to mention that, in fact, O'Keefe was somewhat misleading on the details in this case and has been in the past..I think that's relevant and important, so people understand that what they see/hear isn't always the gospel truth.

        But then we get ludicrous claims like this:

        ' that despite claiming to be "absolutely independent," a conservative donor reportedly funded some of his past films; '

        Orly? So each indie movie out there, from college-produced to those making the big film festivals, are funded completely from the savings accounts of the producers?
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        • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 24, 2009 1:44 pm ET)
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          I would agree that it does not matter to me who funds the project. The project should be judged on its mertis. However, the media not calling this guy on refusing to release an unedited video of any of these conversations and lying about never being kicked out of any of these offices is unforgiveable. You cannot call yourself a journalist if you have this kid in front of you and fail to ask even those basic questions about his integrity. What is the point of the interview otherwise? Is every interview today done as though it were done by Entertainment Tonight?
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      • Author by mk3872 (September 24, 2009 11:28 am ET)
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        Just exactly what whistle was blown?

        That ACORN hires poor impoverished people who made bad judgment calls by now throwing out a phony prostitute from their office?

        To me, this just shows in continued inability of conversatives to focus time and energy on ANY real serious domestic issues in this country and to continue down a road of obsessing over right-wing pet peeves.
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        • Author by MickD (September 24, 2009 3:51 pm ET)
             
          They believe that is the only way they win elections. How has that worked for the last couple of years?
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 24, 2009 1:41 pm ET)
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        "Whistleblowers blowing whistles on organizations or people fiercely protected by rightwingers or leftwingers always jumpstarts these childish little finger pointing games.

        If this were done by some leftwing film makers against some darling of the right, the reactions by all would be the same. They would just take different seats."


        I'm not sure I completely agree. I think it is undeniable the control that the right has over the conversation today in the media. Does Jeremy Scahill get as media coverage as this O'Keefe guy does? And Scahill seems to operate as an actual journalist (at least what a journalist used to be) rather than this O'Keefe guy who dresses up in unbelievable costumes and performs for grossly edited wannabe Daily Show interviews.
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    • Author by only_myschly3567 (September 24, 2009 11:56 am ET)
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      And they used the footage of the woman who killed her ex-husband, who is still alive...? That just screams "This is a credible story"
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    • Author by terrapin53 (September 24, 2009 12:00 pm ET)
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      I am sorry but MMFA needs to let this go. I bet 99% if not more of this country do not care about this story. So what if he is lying about some stuff. The vido and audio do not lie and these workers if not committing a crime sure used some poor judgement. Even if their motives wre just to get the good on ACORN, again, I bet most of the population just does'nt consider this a big deal. Let ACORN duke it out in the courts. Let the states investigate whoever they want to see if any laws were broken. I'm not defending these 2 amateur conservative sleuths. But go find more to the story than just trying to smear these two. MMFA...go find out who really financed them.
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      • Author by right ON (September 24, 2009 12:06 pm ET)
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        And now ACORN has filed a lawsuit against these film makers, I believe. That will do nothing except keep it on the front burner at Fox. Great idea ACORN. I guess your judgment is pretty poor if you're doing that.
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        • Author by ScienceBuff (September 24, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
             
          If they chose not to take any legal action it would be portrayed as an admission of guilt. It's a damned if they do, damned if they don't situation. At least filing the suit puts some pressure on the pimp & pro.
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        • Author by LarryE (September 24, 2009 5:43 pm ET)
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          Great idea ACORN. I guess your judgment is pretty poor

          Absolutely. Because when you're attacked by the right wing, the one thing you must never, ever do is fight back.
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          • Author by right ON (September 24, 2009 6:34 pm ET)
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            Let them fight back, I don't care. But if they think they will score any points in the court of public opinion they are mistaken. Fox will have a field day. They will be branded as shooting the messenger and just trying to divert attention. They will come out worse. Good strategy.
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            • Author by congero6189599 (September 25, 2009 11:33 am ET)
                 
              ...and we should listen to you cryral balling this because you have been sooo right before?!? Give me a break!
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      • Author by DellDolly (September 24, 2009 12:09 pm ET)
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        The credibility of O'Keefe does matter. It matters more than the character of some former terrorist in Chicago that Obama had a passing acquaintance with, yet many attempt to tar Obama with Ayers all the time. Whether or not ACORN misbehaved is another topic. If one is talking about this video and the guy who took the video, his character should be one of the things discussed.
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        • Author by Victor Colorado (September 24, 2009 12:34 pm ET)
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          Agreed. The fact that O'Keefe tried to fund race-based abortions tells me all I need to know about this cretin.
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        • Author by terrapin53 (September 24, 2009 2:35 pm ET)
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          Dolly, I disagree. All this is doing is putting us on the same type of smearing campaign the right is using. We have nothing to be ashamed of and we need to just let this story go. This guy will get his month or 2 in the sun and then disappear into oblivion again. If you want any kind of revenge, we can always put a camera and mic into Beck's office and home and see how he plans on hiding his income from the IRS.
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      • Author by ScienceBuff (September 24, 2009 12:19 pm ET)
           
        The vido and audio do not lie and these workers if not committing a crime sure used some poor judgement. - terrapin53

        That's not entirely with regard to video & audio not lying. Highly edited video and audio very certainly CAN lie, and what we've seen from O'Keefe is highly edited. That doesn't automatically mean it's misrepresenting what happened in those offices, but it should give everyone cause to not accept what we've been told is on there at face value.

        The ACORN workers do seem to have given dubious tax advice, but part of that could be traced back to holding the opinion that prostitution shouldn't preclude a person from buying a home. None of them make any serious direct reference to any prostitution rings and never any reference at all to child prostitution. That in itself makes me skeptical about how much those videos have been edited.
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      • Author by rumpleteasermom (September 24, 2009 12:57 pm ET)
           
        I care, but from a slightly different point of view. I want to see a story that compares the ACORN events with similar events in other organizations and how the coverage varies depending on who the organization is and who they are affiliated with.

        Yes, the ACORN thing SHOULD have been a minor passing story and it wasn't because of FoxNews, so how many other minor passing stories have been overlooked because FoxNews supports the people involved instead of having a vendetta against them?
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      • Author by fabucat58 (September 24, 2009 10:31 pm ET)
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        I could give two poops about WHAT 99% of the people care about. Ninety-nine percent of the people care more about American Idol than they do about Afghanistan. What I and other smart people care about is the systematic McCarthyist tactics of our media. First it was Van Jones, then it was about ACORN. They drag out about one so-called "Czar" a week to pillory and they won't stop until Obama is impeached.
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    • Author by DellDolly (September 24, 2009 12:14 pm ET)
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      SCHIAVOCAMPO: Do you consider yourself a conservative?

      O'KEEFE: No, I consider myself a progressive radical. I don't really want to conserve anything.

      Ridiculous.

      His behavior is outrageous and unbelievable.
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 24, 2009 1:46 pm ET)
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        I actually think that was a stunningly honest admission. These modern day "conservative leaders" are not conservative at all. They do not want to conserve anything. They are leaches on the taint of society saying and doing any outlandish thing that will get them paid.
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        • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 24, 2009 1:48 pm ET)
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          Let's try leeches. Sorry. Don't know where that spelling (leaches) came from.
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        • Author by Victor Colorado (September 24, 2009 1:50 pm ET)
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          O'Keefe admitted in an interview that he went after ACORN because of their success in registering black and Latino voters in several states where the election outcomes were very close. He was angry that minority voters made the difference in many elections and he wanted to get back at them for it. He's not a progressive. He's a liar.
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (September 24, 2009 2:11 pm ET)
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            Well, for him I think it is clear that if they could keep blacks from voting or more from understanding their rights it would be "progess" so I guess it depends what your definition of progress is relatively speaking. He is most certainly a radical. Wait! Now, Fox News supports self-proclaimed radicals? But Hannity and Beck told me radicals were dangerous and must be kept out of the conversation. Now radicals are good? How confusing it must be each day as a right-winger to have to change your definitions of life in order to still justify your belief system.
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    • Author by themidnightreview.com (September 24, 2009 1:48 pm ET)
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      SCHIAVOCAMPO: How do you define yourself? As a journalist, as an activist?

      O'KEEFE: I don't have a business card. I mean, I'm too busy doing what I do. I let other people frame it the way they want.
      According to his interview with New Guard Magazine, the "political technology" he used in the his Planned Parenthood sting "needs to be further utilized by young conservative activists". He goes on to write the following:

      Activists should always be forward thinking and compound successes immediately. For example, pro-life activists across the country could easily replicate our racism project locally by demanding Planned Parenthood be banned from their respective community or campus. “Shut down Planned Parenthood because abortion is murder,” simply will not work. The demand should frame the issue in leftist terms, making it harder to say no. It could be something like “We strongly oppose racism at Springfield State. To honor Martin Luther King Jr.’s legacy, we demand that Planned Parenthood be disaffiliated from campus.” It will be very hard for a town or campus bureaucrat to say “no” to anything that claims to honor MLK Jr.

      Most importantly, conservative activists need to be their own media, and use their independent media to obtain their goals. In our situation, You Tube decided to arbitrarily ban Part II of our investigation, which had received tens of thousands of views, because it violated the “Terms of Use.” To my knowledge there was nothing in our videos that constituted a violation. We were more likely targeted due to our message, considering that there are millions of other videos that break copyright laws or contain sexual or violent material that are ignored. It is crucial to maintain independent broadcasting capabilities in print and online to get the word out.

      The media coverage gained from our investigations is fun but fleeting. Media is unfortunately thought to be an end, but it should be a means. The purpose of our investigation was not just to get on Fox News but to get Planned Parenthood banned from UCLA. If we are successful, this story will likely make the Los Angeles Times and Larry King Live. This would, in turn, encourage others and lead to results so significant across the country that the mainstream media will not be able to ignore them.

      Through all of this, your purpose and goal must be clear. We are not doing this just for fun or to embarrass Planned Parenthood; we want to stop them from continuing their murderous activities once and for all.
      Try backpedaling some more...

      O'Keefe is nothing but a smarmy, self serving, liar, who is now playing dumb because his entire operation is a scam...

      ------------------------

      The Midnight Review
      Mum Is The Word
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      • Author by fabucat58 (September 24, 2009 10:34 pm ET)
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        So O'Keefe is upset that black fetuses are being aborted. But once black people are born and they come of age, he does not want them to vote.
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        • Author by themidnightreview.com (September 25, 2009 1:13 am ET)
             
          O'Keefe is a pro-lifer who dislikes Planned Parenthood, but rather protest Planned Parenthood, he devised a plan... prove they are racist and then use that against them. He wanted them to accept money intended to abort black fetuses, that way he can say "Hey look, they are racist" and then use racism against Planned Parenthood, achieving his goal of bringing down Planned Parenthood... same goes for ACORN...

          Instead of asking people or the government to simply stop supporting them, he asks people to do so to "honor Martin Luther King Jr." If you still say no, not only is the target racist, but it makes you racist as well, discrediting any supporter as well...

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    • Author by mustardman (September 24, 2009 6:12 pm ET)
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      They are both looking at about 5+ years in prison and possibly millions in lawsuits. With all the raw video as evidence I would say they are in for a world of trouble!
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      • Author by fabucat58 (September 24, 2009 10:35 pm ET)
           
        The state's attorney would have to file suit against O'Keefe and Giles for them to go to prison. That hasn't occurred yet.
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    • Author by alsamon (September 26, 2009 12:47 pm ET)
         
      Media Matters has at least part of this story totally wrong. O'Keefe DID NOT "claim[] every ACORN office visited was complicit" in his interview with Fox on 9/13. If you actually listen to what he said, he never answered the question directly and claimed only that no ACORN office kicked him out.

      The way Media Matters wrote this story is a joke:
      "During the September 13 edition of Fox News' America's News HQ, senior correspondent Eric Shawn asked O'Keefe, "ACORN says that you went to, what, five other places around the country where they kicked you out. ... [D]id you find ethical, honest ACORN employees in any of the places that you went to that kicked you out and said, 'No, we're not going to do this. We're not going to cooperate. We're not going to have ACORN help you'?" O'Keefe responded that the people at ACORN are "liars" and that he "[a]bsolutely" wanted an apology and later added: "[N]one of the facilities kicked us out. That's a lie.""

      My advice: Rather than give inaccurate, out of context, edited quotes that include ellipses at key points, just provide a verbatim recitation--or accurately characterize what was said!!
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