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Beck ignores reported arrest to attack "Nanny State" road checks for drunken drivers

September 23, 2009 7:01 pm ET — 27 Comments

In his new book, Arguing with Idiots, Glenn Beck attacks "Nanny State-ism" by criticizing drunken-driving laws, writing, "The Nanny State approach is to use the police department to set up roadblocks and spot-checks," and stating that since "[t]he largest percentage of vehicular deaths related to alcohol are from repeat offenders," the "commonsense solution is that you lose your license after a second DUI. Forever. Problem solved." In criticizing "roadblocks and spot-checks" and advancing his "commonsense solution," Beck did not address his reported arrest for "speeding in his DeLorean with one of the car's gull-wing doors wide open," after which a former colleague said Beck was "completely out of it."

Beck criticizes "mission creep" that starts with drunken-driving "roadblocks and spot-checks" to attack "Nanny State"

From Arguing with Idiots:

Nanny State-ism often starts with a universally accepted, noble idea that on its own seems quite hard to argue with. For example: We must stop drunk drivers. They're a menace. They kill thousands of people a year and put innocent families at risk. So you say, Heck yeah! We need to get rid of dunk drivers.

But how?

In the Nanny State, the answer is, "By law, of course!" Using legislation to "solve" an issue at the expense of some of your personal liberty. And laws, as we all know, are always subject to "mission creep."

[...]

Back to drunk driving. The Nanny State approach is to use the police department to set up roadblocks and spot-checks (which, as a fun side benefit, helps to concentrate law enforcement personnel in one area, thereby creating traffic jams and penalizing innocent people who are merely trying to get home from work). Then, the ideas become more intrusive and inane: banning the sale of cold beer, banning the sale of fruity adult drinks, dictating the exact composition of a martini, watering down beer, making establishments and their workers liable for your getting drunk, demanding "Happy Hour" be renamed and, the Grand Prize: requiring ignition-locking breathalyzers in all cars -- an idea promoted by Nanny Statist New York assemblyman Felix Ortiz.

Does it matter if you don't drink at all or that you'd never, ever consider driving under the influence? Nope. It'll be a round of breathalyzers for everyone.

Now, if you make the really, really terrible decision to get liquored up and hit the road, you deserve to be severely punished. Choosing to call a friend or a cab is your personal responsibility, and, until recently, each of us used to be personally responsible for it. But not anymore. Now the government, assisted by a wide assortment of legislation-happy enablers, has decided that it knows what's best for you.

[...]

Here's something that Nanny Staters don't like to talk about: The largest percentage of vehicular deaths related to alcohol are from repeat offenders. Therefore, the commonsense solution is that you lose your license after a second DUI. Forever. Problem solved.

Deter bad behavior by every offender, not every person. But ideas like ignition-interlock reverse that. They target everyone with the hope of catching the proverbial drunk needle in the haystack. [Pages 154-159]

Former colleague reportedly claimed Beck was "completely out of it" after reported arrested for "speeding in his DeLorean with one of the car's gull-wing doors wide open"

Salon: Former colleague claimed "Beck used to get hammered after every show at this little bar-café down the street." In a September 23 Salon.com article, Alexander Zaitchik reported:

Beck was known at B104 as a pro's pro in the studio but was becoming increasingly unraveled when not working. "Beck used to get hammered after every show at this little bar-café down the street," remembers a music programmer who worked with Beck. "At first we thought he was going to get lunch." The extent to which Beck was struggling to keep it together is highlighted by Beck's arrest one afternoon just outside Baltimore. He was speeding in his DeLorean with one of the car's gull-wing doors wide open when the cops pulled him over. According to a former colleague, Beck was "completely out of it" when a B104 manager went down to the station to bail him out. In his 2003 book, "Real America," Beck refers to himself as a borderline schizophrenic. Whether that statement is matter-of-fact or intended for effect, he has spoken more than once about taking drugs for ADHD, and when he was at B104, Beck's coworkers believed him to be taking prescription medication for some kind of mental or psychological ills. "He used to complain that his medication made him feel like he was 'under wet blankets,'" remembers the former music programmer. [Salon.com, 9/23/09]

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    • Author by GaryD (September 23, 2009 7:05 pm ET)
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      Coming from a former drunk himself...And I bet he still drives. Seriously, I don't take him very seriously.
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    • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (September 23, 2009 7:12 pm ET)
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      Beck had a DeLorean?

      Of COURSE he did!

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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    • Author by ScienceBuff (September 23, 2009 7:26 pm ET)
         
      The largest percentage of vehicular deaths related to alcohol are from repeat offenders. Therefore, the commonsense solution is that you lose your license after a second DUI. Forever. Problem solved. - Beck

      Wow, that's simple. As in simple-minded. Is it possible he's completely ignorant of reality? You constantly hear in the news about drunk drivers driving on suspended or revoked licenses. His proposed "solution" solves nothing at all. Do his fans buy into that simply because he says it?
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    • Author by pete592 (September 23, 2009 7:49 pm ET)
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      "Now the government, assisted by a wide assortment of legislation-happy enablers, has decided that it knows what's best for you."

      Does this include corporate lobbyists, Becky?

      "Deter bad behavior by every offender, not every person. But ideas like ignition-interlock reverse that. They target everyone with the hope of catching the proverbial drunk needle in the haystack."

      There was one proposal in Pennsylvania, from a Republican, that all cars sold there have ignition interlocks. There may have been other such proposals, but in the real world, they're used as a form of punishment for DUI convicts, not every driver.
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      • Author by draftedin68 (September 23, 2009 8:48 pm ET)
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        Pass the... Wait! are you sure that's pepper?

        Like Rush, Hannity and other deranged drivelers, Beck repeatedly uses what I call the reverse flyschit-in-the-pepper, strawman-building bamboozlement.

        Look! Look! I found a flyschit in the pepper! Perhaps this really isn't pepper at all and is just a socialist plot to pass off flyschit as pepper!

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    • Author by srichardson (September 23, 2009 9:01 pm ET)
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      Borderline schizophrenic? That explains it all. He really is hearing voices in his head!! Obviously he is off his meds and needs to start taking his prescription again.
      And as far as road blocks, a lot of people consider them set ups by the police. Isn't that what those two young reporters did with ACORN? And the right wing thinks they deserve a Pulitzer? Give me a break.
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    • Author by Waring (September 23, 2009 10:46 pm ET)
         
      Right because we all know that no one will try driving drunk again if you take away their drivers license. Or that no bartender/waiter/party host would ever knowingly let someone get into a car and drive away when they are way to drunk to drive.

      Why can't Glenn Beck and other talk show hosts realize that people will be driving drunk and letting people drive drunk no matter what the law says or may happen to them or others on the road.
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    • Author by ReasonAndResolve (September 24, 2009 1:01 am ET)
         
      His commonsense solution makes no sense at all. Those multiple offenders aren't going to let as little thing like a revoked license stop them from driving.

      Beck is a complete dunce. Please, in the name of all that is good, stop subjecting yourselves to his bibbling snotfest. I am afraid his particular brand of cerebral flatulence might be contagious. 2.6 million booger-eaters is already too many.
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    • Author by slowtyper (September 24, 2009 2:23 am ET)
         
      "The largest percentage of vehicular deaths related to alcohol are from repeat offenders. Therefore, the commonsense solution is that you lose your license after a second DUI. Forever. Problem solved."

      and no one has ever driven with a suspended or revoked license have they..?

      as with most things beck..the effects of years of drug and alcohol abuse are increasingly obvious..and it appears to have progressed to the "Listerine" state since obama won the election..
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    • Author by fawltylogic (September 24, 2009 3:32 am ET)
         
      Finally, someone arguing for the rights of non-convicted drunk drivers. Beck, keep up the good work. How about next time you speak out for the plight of non-convicted rapists?
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    • Author by quintron (September 24, 2009 9:53 am ET)
         
      which, as a fun side benefit, helps to concentrate law enforcement personnel in one area, thereby creating traffic jams and penalizing innocent people who are merely trying to get home from work


      After going to the bar and getting liquored up.

      Most of these road checks in my town are announced weeks ahead and begin at 10:00pm.
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    • Author by HistoricallyCorrect (September 24, 2009 9:57 am ET)
         
      I've never seen road blocks during the day, only on holiday/long weekends and late evenings. But maybe it's different in the States?
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (September 24, 2009 10:37 am ET)
           
        The State of Washington's State Patrol does such things arround haolidays. Sometimes they increase manpower to look for drunk driving without any apparent trigger.
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        • Author by eweston8542983 (September 24, 2009 10:38 am ET)
             
          Sigh, holidays
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        • Author by NewBee (September 24, 2009 1:53 pm ET)
             
          Actually, the State of Washington does not do roadblocks or sobriety checkpoints. They determined awhile ago that they thought the practice was not constitutional and wouldn't utilize it in this state. Increasing patrols to catch drunk drivers is different. They aren't randomly pulling people over.
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          • Author by eweston8542983 (September 24, 2009 6:35 pm ET)
               
            Being a non-drinker I don't worry a lot about it. Correction noted, thank you.
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      • Author by DonSchenck (September 24, 2009 11:12 am ET)
           
        Correct me if I'm wrong -- please -- but isn't it LEGAL to turn around to avoid a police spot check?
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    • Author by cuttlefish (September 24, 2009 11:57 am ET)
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      I am no fan of Glenn Beck, but this article is just an ad hominem attack.
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      • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (September 24, 2009 2:08 pm ET)
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        Would you feel the same way if O'Reilly was arguing for less protection for victims of sexual harrassment?
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    • Author by funnymanpants (September 24, 2009 12:48 pm ET)
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      ""[t]he largest percentage of vehicular deaths related to alcohol are from repeat offenders," the "commonsense solution is that you lose your license after a second DUI. Forever. Problem solved"

      Holly cow that is dumb. How does Beck think the drunk drivers get arrested the first two times--by road blocks! (Or at least in part.) The road blocks are a means to get drivers the two DUIs so they can't drive any more.
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    • Author by papa bear3 (September 24, 2009 5:48 pm ET)
         
      I used to work in "the field" as they used to call it, and the DWI roadblock was our first line of defense against a variety of offenders, mostly alcohol related, but a fair share of dead-beat-dads, prior crimes not involving alcohol, stolen vehicles, probable cause for search for drugs, weapons other contraband. It was a necessity in our community particularly on Friday nights, holidays et al.

      after reading all the replies here and the other threads I am wondering if Rupert Murdoch has ever watched Beck.
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