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Echoing Fox News, Dobbs downplays Bush's use of czars

September 17, 2009 8:30 am ET — 24 Comments

Lou Dobbs stated that prior to the Obama administration, "the highest number of czars that we were able to document in our own reporting ... was during the Clinton administration, and he had only 10 czars." However, according to The Washington Post, former President Bush "had 36 czar positions filled by 46 people during his eight years as president."

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Dobbs: Highest number of czars before Obama "was during the Clinton administration, and he had only 10"

From the September 16 edition of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight:

LISA SYLVESTER (CNN correspondent): The Democratic National Committee followed up saying, quote, "Most telling of the credibility of these attacks is that they come from the same Republican Party that didn't utter a peep about the 47 documented czars in the Bush administration."

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DOBBS: [T]o be clear, we should point out that that number in the Bush administration, the number of czars -- in point of fact, the highest number of czars that we were able to document in our own reporting here on this broadcast for the number of czars previous to the 34, 35 czars appointed by President Obama in his first eight months in office was during the Clinton administration, and he had only 10 czars -- a remarkable change of emphasis on czardom, if you will.

SYLVESTER: Yes. You know, if you take a look at the numbers that the DNC put out, one of the things that they do is they count all of the czars that President Obama had as opposed to counting the positions. So if you really want to compare apples to apples here, you know, if President Obama is starting with 30 czar positions right now, well just think how many individuals might flow in and out of those positions.

So you could well have over 60 czars -- double or triple the number of czars -- if they're going to be comparing it to the same way that they came up with the numbers under President Bush.

DOBBS: So, in other words, they were counting the number of people who rotated in over two terms?

SYLVESTER: Over -- exactly. Over eight years. That's exactly what they were doing --

DOBBS: Well, that's --

SYLVESTER: -- as opposed to the positions.

DOBBS: How open and transparent of the DNC. Thank you very much, Lisa. Lisa Sylvester.

Wash. Post: "By one count, Bush had 36 czar positions"

Washington Post reports that a count of Bush czars yielded 36 positions. Reporting on conservative criticism of the Obama administration's czars, The Washington Post stated, "Lists drawn up by conservative groups detail as many as 40 czars linked to Obama, although some of the positions existed before he took office, and some did win Senate approval." The Post further reported that "Richard M. Nixon named a drug czar and an energy czar, and George W. Bush named czars to coordinate policy efforts on a range of issues. By one count, Bush had 36 czar positions filled by 46 people during his eight years as president." [The Washington Post, 9/16/09]

Other media conservatives have misled to attack Obama's use of czar officials

Fox News launches witch hunt against Obama administration "czars." Fox News asserted that "czars are not subjected to congressional oversight." In fact, many of the Obama administration officials the network has labeled "czars" have been confirmed by the Senate or were appointed to positions created through legislation passed by Congress; additionally, a number of the officials had counterparts in the Bush administration. Fox News personalities have also targeted specific officials they have identified as "czars."

Transcript

From the September 16 edition of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight:

DOBBS: President Obama has faced a sharp round of criticism for the unprecedented number of czars he's appointed. President Obama has named more than 30 czars -- so far many of them to top policymaking positions. But none of those advisers subject to Senate hearings or confirmation or vetting. Now, many in Congress are demanding far more accountability and testimony from these so-called czars. Lisa Sylvester has our report.

[begin video clip]

SYLVESTER: There are about 30 so-called czars watching over everything from Afghanistan to the economy. Some lawmakers complain these advisers have bypassed the Senate confirmation process, answering only to the president, and can't be forced to testify before Congress.

REP. DARRELL ISSA (R-CA): This formation of a shadow Cabinet, that in fact is more than twice the size of the real Cabinet, is a danger to the very question of who's advising the president and on what basis.

SYLVESTER: Representative Frank Wolf [R-VA] says the czars have not been put through full security screenings, unlike Cabinet members, who have had to go through a lengthy vetting process.

WOLF: The FBI said they do a background check, but it's the same background check they would do for an intern at the White House, whhere they do not do a security clearance.

SYLVESTER: Green job czar Van Jones stepped down after controversial statements he made surfaced. And President Obama's car czar, Steven Rattner, without explanation resigned amid reports the New York attorney general was investigating an investment company linked to him. The White House defended itself, saying the practice of appointing czars is nothing new.

ROBERT GIBBS (White House press secretary): These are positions that date back at least to, you know, many, many administrations, where there may be policy coordination between many different departments in order to make governmental responses more efficient.

SYLVESTER: The Democratic National Committee followed up saying, quote, "Most telling of the credibility of these attacks is that they come from the same Republican Party that didn't utter a peep about the 47 documented czars in the Bush administration."

But it's not just Republicans bothered by the czars. This week, Democratic Senator Russ Feingold, who chairs the Senate Constitution subcommittee, asked the White House to disclose more information: Who are the individuals? What are their responsibilities, and whether and how these positions are consistent with the appointments clause of the Constitution.

[end video clip]

SYLVESTER: And lawmakers are continuing to press the issue, introducing legislation to withhold funding from any czars calling for congressional hearings, and today a resolution of disapproval was introduced in the House of Representatives -- Lou?

DOBBS: Yeah, and to be clear, we should point out that that number in the Bush administration, the number of czars -- in point of fact, the highest number of czars that we were able to document in our own reporting here on this broadcast for the number of czars previous to the 34, 35 czars appointed by President Obama in his first eight months in office was during the Clinton administration, and he had only 10 czars -- a remarkable change of emphasis on czardom, if you will.

SYLVESTER: Yes. You know, if you take a look at the numbers that the DNC put out, one of the things that they do is they count all of the czars that President Obama had as opposed to counting the positions. So if you really want to compare apples to apples here, you know, if President Obama is starting with 30 czar positions right now, well just think how many individuals might flow in and out of those positions.

So you could well have over 60 czars -- double or triple the number of czars -- if they're going to be comparing it to the same way that they came up with the numbers under President Bush.

DOBBS: So, in other words, they were counting the number of people who rotated in over two terms?

SYLVESTER: Over -- exactly. Over eight years. That's exactly what they were doing --

DOBBS: Well, that's --

SYLVESTER: -- as opposed to the positions.

DOBBS: How open and transparent of the DNC. Thank you very much, Lisa. Lisa Sylvester.

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    • Author by Bad News (September 17, 2009 8:35 am ET)
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      The goal is to destroy President Obama.

      You can't get there by going after President Bush.


      Mr. News
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      • Author by mari2jj2970 (September 18, 2009 12:07 am ET)
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        Amazing just to what lengths Dobbs will go to besmirch President Obama when in fact, he is constantly showing what a racist and/or ideologue he is. Frankly, the guy is sounding more and more like Glenn Back, another weirdo who just cannot stand that a Black man is the duly elected President of the United States. Anyway, thanks for your clarification but alas, I was fairly sure that Dobbs was the one in error and that his latent racism is on full display. Or perhaps Dobbs is just too dumb to check out things before he makes such a fool of himself.
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      • Author by mari2jj2970 (September 18, 2009 12:07 am ET)
           
        Amazing just to what lengths Dobbs will go to besmirch President Obama when in fact, he is constantly showing what a racist and/or ideologue he is. Frankly, the guy is sounding more and more like Glenn Back, another weirdo who just cannot stand that a Black man is the duly elected President of the United States. Anyway, thanks for your clarification but alas, I was fairly sure that Dobbs was the one in error and that his latent racism is on full display. Or perhaps Dobbs is just too dumb to check out things before he makes such a fool of himself.
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    • Author by mk3872 (September 17, 2009 8:42 am ET)
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      CNN continues to embarass itself.

      "In our own reporting ... we found the most were 10 czars ... by Clinton"

      And we're supposed to believe that this kind of phony "reporting" is real news and that Dobbs is an "Independent"?

      That's funny because I am an independent and I'm pretty sure that does not mean putting my head in the sand and pretend that George W Bush was innocent or never existed.
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    • Author by The_Cat (September 17, 2009 8:58 am ET)
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      "DOBBS: So, in other words, they were counting the number of people who rotated in over two terms?"

      Hey, Lou? Why not go ahead and put the number at 100, expected to rotate in and out of these 'czar' positions over the next eight years? That way you can really paint Obama as a bad guy. And, when you do it, make sure to note that the reason President Obama is expected to have so many different people through these 30 or so positions is because people like Glenn Beck and you are planning even more witch hunts to run them out of their jobs. People like Van Jones, whose only crime was being black.

      While you're at it, ignore the czars that Bush not only appointed, by created, and the Republicans who supported him in this.
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      • Author by The_Cat (September 17, 2009 8:58 am ET)
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        s.b. 'but created...'
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      • Author by wzwriter (September 17, 2009 11:12 am ET)
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        They're counting czars in the Obama Administration the same way they counted attendees in Washington for the 9/12 tea party.......
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      • Author by jimswan53 (September 18, 2009 12:12 am ET)
           
        Seems Lou, like every other news doofus (Limbaugh, Hannity et al) has a penchant for disregarding the facts. Either that or his research team sucks.
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    • Author by magnolialover (September 17, 2009 9:24 am ET)
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      I was told, point blank by a conservative and hardcore republican, that Bush had ZERO czars, so why does Obama need so many?

      Of course, totally ignoring things we like to call facts.
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      • Author by bintx (September 17, 2009 10:50 am ET)
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        Just remind them that Karl Rove was Bush's political policy czar aka advisor.
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      • Author by rumpleteasermom (September 17, 2009 11:14 am ET)
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        There was a time in the history of this country, that when people had a break with reality, we locked them up in asylums.

        I'm starting to see the merit in that.
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        • Author by Lookbehindme (September 17, 2009 3:12 pm ET)
             
          Take a good look in the mirror.
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        • Author by webgiant (September 18, 2009 6:15 am ET)
             
          Just remember that L. Ron Hubbard's experiences in an insane asylum led to much of what Scientology puts into practice.

          Lets not create new "Scientologies".
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      • Author by jimswan53 (September 18, 2009 12:14 am ET)
           
        This idiotic czar talk actually started with Nixon, but really brought to the forefront by Conservatives because that word give it such a Socialist, communist ring to it. All planned, I'm sure!
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    • Author by o rly (September 17, 2009 10:02 am ET)
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      Conservatives do not live in the reality-based community.
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    • Author by open_mind (September 17, 2009 11:03 am ET)
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      I kind of blame the DNC here. I have dealt with them before. They are not the brightest people in the world.

      Instead of pointing out that Bush had 36 Czar positions as well, the DNC just had to go with a higher number that obviously was comparing apples to oranges.

      Anybody who works in communications should anticipate that the only thing that the detractors will focus on is the silly apples to oranges comparison the DNC made and not the appropriate and germane apples to apples comparison which is obviously a valid one.
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    • Author by only_myschly3567 (September 17, 2009 1:12 pm ET)
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      Why is CNN making its business to make Obama look like some powergrabbing maniac, and the DNC like a bunch of liars?

      I thought CNN was supposed to be the most trusted name in news?

      I'm seriously sticking to BBC and BBC alone. This is a disgrace.
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      • Author by open_mind (September 18, 2009 8:12 am ET)
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        I use many news sources, but NPR gets it right almost all of the time. They are very good about being fair also.
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    • Author by skinnydipinacid (September 17, 2009 3:15 pm ET)
         
      Oh please, the majority of Bush's Czars were put in place at the tail end of his presidency, not in the first 6 months. Who's to say how many Obama will end up with? 100? Maybe more? Not to mention, anybody Bush put into power had to run through the gauntlet known as the moonbat media, who actually went out of their way to report things for a while there. It is an absolute certainty that Bush would have been incapable of putting any communist activists or radicals into power without so much as a peep questioning it.

      But hey, don't let common sense get in the way of a good rant. Feel free to continue the Bush/Dobbs/Beck/Limbaugh hatefest... I'm sure they're responsible for the real problems in our country.
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    • Author by rkcomments (September 17, 2009 4:20 pm ET)
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      Lou is preparing his case for his upcoming salary negotiations to join Fox News.
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    • Author by ChicagoDB (September 18, 2009 2:31 am ET)
         
      I have seen many on various sites refer to, Karl Rove, as Bush's "Domestic Policy Czar"...Rove never served as a "Czar".

      Rove served as "Senior Advisor to the President" and also as "Deputy White House Chief of Staff". Both are formal White House positions.

      I'm not sure how that tag got applied to him. Perhaps some referred to him as a Czar, off-the-cuff. It certainly isn't an accurate statement.

      Bush used to frequently refer to Rove as "the Architect"...but that certainly mean he was one of those either.
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    • Author by rsinebada7366 (September 18, 2009 2:08 pm ET)
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      I'm trying to remember who started the "czar" business. Wasn't it we Dems on Bush' advisors?
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    • Author by mikelartist (September 18, 2009 5:01 pm ET)
         
      Has anyone else seen these two creeps together in the same room at the same time? Hmmm. Makes you wonder.

      [http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz152/bugeyeddork/Lou-Dobby-400k.gif]
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