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NPR lets Texas education official throw stones at Obama, doesn't mention her glass house

September 09, 2009 9:30 am ET — 49 Comments

On NPR's All Things Considered, host Noah Adams, introducing a report on President Obama's September 8 speech to schoolchildren, stated that "some parents and conservatives ... called it a political intrusion into the school day." But NPR did not note that one of the conservatives quoted in the report, Texas State Board of Education member Barbara Cargill, has repeatedly engaged in political intrusions into the Texas school system, seeking -- sometimes successfully -- to change Texas schools' curriculum to fit her conservative ideology.

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From the September 7 broadcast of NPR's All Things Considered:

ADAMS: Today, the White House tried to calm a storm over a speech that President Obama will deliver to the nation's schoolchildren tomorrow. The early release of the text of that speech is meant to reassure some parents and conservatives who called it a political intrusion into the school day. But as NPR's Larry Abramson reports, the actual message of the address isn't the real issue.

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ABRAMSON: Regardless of the actual message, McCluskey has a bigger problem with the way the speech was packaged. The Education Department initially distributed a lesson plan that urged teachers to discuss with students how they could help the president. On CBS' Face the Nation yesterday, Education Secretary Arne Duncan said even though that message was harmless, it was modified.

DUNCAN: It was talking about helping the president hit his goal of having the highest percent of college graduates by 2020. He's drawn a line in the sand in that. We just clarified that to say write a letter about your own goals and what you're going to do to achieve those goals.

ABRAMSON: But that change mollified few critics. Barbara Cargill of the Texas State Board of Education said the White House can't change the way news of the speech was sent out.

CARGILL: Bypassing state boards and local school boards, and sending the emails straight to school districts.

ABRAMSON: Cargill says she works hard to scrutinize textbooks and give parents access to lesson plans. The president's speech, she says, circumvents that process. The White House has also taken steps to ease those concerns by releasing the speech early. And Secretary Duncan emphasized yesterday this event is voluntary.

DUNCAN: Schools can do this. They can not do it. They can watch it during school day. Children can watch it at home with their families. They can watch it a month from now. They could never watch it. It's purely voluntary.

ABRAMSON: But even that step made things worse for some school systems. No matter what they choose to do, some parents will be upset. And Texas educator Barbara Cargill says parents don't like the choice that they face either.

CARGILL: If they opt their children out, they're going to feel ostracized. They're going to have to leave the comfort of their classroom to be dismissed to a gym.

Cargill injected her politics into Texas social science curriculum review process

Cargill reportedly asked prospective appointee to a social studies curriculum review committee, "Would you consider yourself a conservative?" "Board members appoint the review committees and typically choose people who share their philosophies. Barbara Cargill, R-The Woodlands, was not sure about one prospective appointee -- so she asked. 'Would you consider yourself a conservative when it comes to patriotism, the constitution, the heritage of our forefathers, etc?' Cargill wrote last year in an e-mail to Rhonda Williams, an education coordinator at Stephen F. Austin State University. Cargill appointed Williams to one of the social studies review committees." [San Antonio Express-News, 8/20/09]

  • Williams reportedly said she didn't "understand" use of " 'conservative' in this context," was given a position on a "lesser panel." From a July 12 Nacogdoches (TX) Daily Sentinel article [requires fee]:

"Would you consider yourself a conservative when it comes to patriotism, the constitution, the heritage of our forefathers, etc?"

That was the last question that State Board of Education (SBOE) member Barbara Cargill, R-The Woodlands, asked SFA's Education Coordinator Rhonda Williams in an e-mail interview for a spot on the state's world history curriculum writing committee last December.

Williams was nominated to sit on a writing panel that would help shape the state's social studies curriculum for the next 10 years. She was hoping that she would be selected for the world history writing committee where she felt her expertise could be best utilized. The writing teams are usually made up of high school and college level educators who help to draft curriculum standards in their respective fields.

In her response to Cargill's question of whether or not she considered herself to be "a conservative," Williams wrote, "Although I do not entirely understand the use of the word conservative in this context, I do believe that civic virtue, or responsible citizenship, cannot occur without knowledge of the structure and responsibilities of the government, and the exploration of the ideas that led to the development of our government, including those incorporated into the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution." Williams went on to stress how the two aforementioned documents have had a central role in "every class" she has taught over the years, including in her five years as a junior level English teacher.

"I believe that citizens cannot be truly patriotic without being fully informed about the history of their country -- its background, its development, its achievements, and its mistakes," Williams said in her response.

Without ever hearing from Cargill again, she was notified that she had been relegated to a lesser panel where she would not be responsible for drafting any content for the general classroom. Williams taught secondary level history in Texas public schools for 11 years, as a graduate student taught at Vanderbilt University and is now working at SFA where she develops digital lesson plan materials that are available free of charge for teachers and students all over the world.

Cargill ended up appointing to the committee the social studies department chair from Whitehouse ISD, a district that has a student body of approximately 4,500 students, according to its Web site.

Cargill reportedly justified use of ideology in selecting curriculum review committee personnel. "'The majority of the constituents in my 24 counties tend to have conservative views, especially about how history is taught to our students," Cargill said, explaining her inquiry [to Williams]. Cargill said she expects the review committees will 'work toward a fair and balanced approach on this topic when they meet a final time in October.' " [San Antonio Express-News, 8/20/09]

Cargill's stance on what Texas should teach students about evolution driven by ideology

Cargill voted to require that students in Texas science classes be taught about "strengths and weaknesses" of scientific theories. Voted in support of motion to "replace[e] the proposed language in subchapters 112.32, 112.33, 112.34, 112.35, 112.36, 112.37, 112.38, and 112.39 part (c)(3)(A) with the following: '(A) analyze, review, and critique scientific explanations, including hypotheses and theories, as to their strengths and weaknesses using scientific evidence and information.' " [Minutes of the March 26 Texas State Board of Education meeting]

Sponsor reportedly said language was specifically targeted at evolution. "Many scientists contend that basic evolutionary theory at the high school level has no weaknesses, and to suggest it does would confuse students. However, Ken Mercer, R-San Antonio, fought to restore the 'strengths and weaknesses' clause, saying not all scientists agree about evolution theory. 'There are questions about evolution,' he said. 'There are weaknesses.' " [Houston Chronicle, 3/27/09]

  • "Strengths and weaknesses" language part of creationism advocates' efforts to undermine evolution. Federal district judge John Jones III, in his opinion in Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District, concluded that the Dover school district's requirement that teachers read a statement about purported "[g]aps" in evolution, coupled with a reference to "intelligent design," was an unconstitutional teaching of creationism. From the opinion:

Further evidence in support of the conclusion that a reasonable observer, adult or child, who is "aware of the history and context of the community and forum" is presumed to know that ID [Intelligent Design] is a form of creationism concerns the fact that ID uses the same, or exceedingly similar arguments as were posited in support of creationism. One significant difference is that the words "God," "creationism," and "Genesis" have been systematically purged from ID explanations, and replaced by an unnamed "designer." Dr. Forrest testified and sponsored exhibits showing six arguments common to creationists. ... Demonstrative charts introduced through Dr. Forrest show parallel arguments relating to the rejection of naturalism, evolution's threat to culture and society, "abrupt appearance" implying divine creation, the exploitation of the same alleged gaps in the fossil record, the alleged inability of science to explain complex biological information like DNA, as well as the theme that proponents of each version of creationism merely aim to teach a scientific alternative to evolution to show its "strengths and weaknesses," and to alert students to a supposed "controversy" in the scientific community. [Kitzmiller v. Dover, 12/20/05]

Regarding her vote, Cargill reportedly said she was fighting against "indoctrination" by evolution backers. "The theory is not without its critics. Darwinists try to conceal some of the weaknesses and fallacies of evolution theory, said Barbara Cargill, R-The Woodlands 'They are not the sole possessors of truth. Our schoolchildren belong to the parents, and they want their children educated,' she said. 'They don't want them indoctrinated with one side. They know that evolution has weaknesses.' " [Houston Chronicle, 3/27/09]

Cargill reportedly pointed to "significant challenges" to evolution to explain her position. "Rep. Barbara Cargill, R-The Woodlands, who supported the weaknesses requirement, said there have been 'significant challenges' to evolution theory. She cited a recent news article in which a European scientist disputed Darwin's 'tree of life' showing common ancestors for all living things. She also denied that some board members were trying to make it easier to teach creationism in science classes. 'I don't think this means you're supposed to teach creationism or intelligent design,' she said, referring to another movement related to creationism." [Dallas Morning News, 1/23/09]

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    • Author by mk3872 (September 09, 2009 9:35 am ET)
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      RSK - Thank you for this thorough posting and your research.

      I recall hearing this on my radio and being floored.

      The entire story was fully single-sided and NPR either did NO research on their part or intentionally ignored Cargill's history.

      Either way, that is inexcusable.

      And the way that the national media, including NPR, has treated this right-wing freakout over a school speech BEFORE the speecha and BEFORE even knowing what was in it, just proves again how conservatives are able to lead the media into these kinds of traps.
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      • Author by dexteritas0071418 (September 09, 2009 11:29 am ET)
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        I don't like her criteria, but the reporting said "Board members appoint the review committees and typically choose people who share their philosophies." So, did Cargill act inappropriately?

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        • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (September 09, 2009 1:19 pm ET)
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          Inappropriately? Maybe.

          Hypocritically? Definitely.
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          • Author by dexteritas0071418 (September 09, 2009 1:23 pm ET)
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            Meh, it's not like she's criticizing another school board member.
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            • Author by progressive tribalist (September 09, 2009 2:08 pm ET)
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              Yes it's inappropriate to apply such an obvious political litmus test. That sort of behavior puts students education priorities last and personal ideology first.

              Is it any wonder our schools are in trouble when we have operatives like Cargill discriminating against people of particular political persuasion instead of judging them on their competence?

              Meritcracy, my foot. Conservatives are such deceitful, lying little toads.
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    • Author by mr. l (September 09, 2009 9:37 am ET)
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      'Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District'... Great- I just applied to be a sub teacher there in Math. Maybe I should tell them I'm better at teaching magic.
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      • Author by travellinguist (September 09, 2009 10:11 am ET)
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        Don't worry the Republican-appointed judge, George W Bush too I think, ruled that the Dover curriculum was an intrusion of religion into the classroom and an abject failure of the three pronged "Lemon Test," so you can teach actual science in Dover, not religion.
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      • Author by NG_Officer (September 09, 2009 10:16 am ET)
           
        you should go to the NOVA website and view the documentary of the trial.
        Very enlightening
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        • Author by SLRTX (September 09, 2009 10:29 am ET)
             
          And, go to anything posted by Dr. Kenneth Miller.

          He was a key witness against the school board.

          His Biology textbook was also part of the "sticker" controversy in Georgia.

          His videos on the subject of facts of evolution are easy to watch, and very informative.
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    • Author by foghornleghorn (September 09, 2009 9:56 am ET)
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      Don't forget Texas was where the whole NCLB fiasco got started. And they fudged their data on the students' improvement.


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      • Author by dexteritas0071418 (September 09, 2009 11:30 am ET)
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        Also don't forget that Teddy Kennedy was major, major proponent of NCLB, and he was NOT from Texas.
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        • Author by rms (September 09, 2009 11:48 am ET)
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          ...though was highly critical when it was under-funded, as you know.
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          • Author by dexteritas0071418 (September 09, 2009 12:15 pm ET)
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            Did "Texas" underfund it?
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            • Author by progressive tribalist (September 09, 2009 2:21 pm ET)
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              Lame response and you know it. You're addressing a moot point for the sake of making a partisan attack.

              Fact is, Kennedy was simply wrong about NCLB from go. Standardized tests are crap; kids are taught, not how to think, but what to say in order to answer correctly a litany of approved questions.

              NCLB must go and boo on Obama for saying he wouldn't dismantle it when he was campaigning for president.
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              • Author by foghornleghorn (September 09, 2009 6:52 pm ET)
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                Correct. Texas LIED about the effectiveness of NCLB. Maybe Kennedy didn't know that Bush LIED about NCLB.

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    • Author by SLRTX (September 09, 2009 10:04 am ET)
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      Yeah. I'm familiar with Cargill's work. (eyes rolling)

      The wording on the TEKs (Texas education standards) sounds benign, but anyone who is in the position of affecting education standards, and has just a crude working-knowledge of the scientific method, should know that science is already self-critical, and theories adjust as new facts are incorporated.

      But she and those like her, feel the need to highlight "weaknesses in science" to give the impression that science, particularly the well-proven theory of evolution and old-age universe, is somehow still debated among scientists.

      (eyes rolling to the back of my head now)

      The only ones debating these theories are the ignorant. A group to which Ms. Cargill belongs.

      The right continues to waste everyone's time with nonsense. I guess that means they have no answers on the real issues, so deflection is their only recourse.

      Here's a link to her site. Read her position for yourself.

      http://www.barbaracargill.com/
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      • Author by NG_Officer (September 09, 2009 10:24 am ET)
           
        And in neighboring Louisiana, we have the incorrectly named Louisiana Science Education Act, which allows school districts to introduce "supplemental materials" when teaching evolution "to help students understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner"
        And the Discovery Institute has a plethora of supplemental materials on hand.
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        • Author by SLRTX (September 09, 2009 10:32 am ET)
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          Any science teacher who dismisses evolution as "just a theory" should have their certifications pulled.

          Anything taught in science class that is not supported by evidence and peer reviewed publications should be actively challenged by parents and tax-payers.

          The school boards who promote passing mystical nonsense as science should be removed.
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          • Author by NG_Officer (September 09, 2009 10:51 am ET)
               
            my daughter is in public school. I am on the look-out for "supplemental materials". It will be struck down as unconstitutional once it is challenged (but no school district is using "supplimental materials" yet)
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          • Author by NG_Officer (September 09, 2009 10:53 am ET)
               
            And the other disturbing fact is our governor, who signed the LSEA into law, has a biology degree from Brown
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            • Author by SLRTX (September 09, 2009 11:19 am ET)
                 
              Just goes to show you, it doesn't matter what degree you have, or where you got it. What matters is what you do with it.

              Too bad universities like Brown can't revoke degrees.

              Remember his position, next time you go to vote for Governor.
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              • Author by NG_Officer (September 09, 2009 11:30 am ET)
                   
                Oh, I didn't vote (absentee from Afhganistan) for him the first time. We are talking about Bobby (Brady) Jindal, who continues to pander to the Religious Right
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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (September 09, 2009 12:18 pm ET)
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            Any science teacher who dismisses evolution as "just a theory" should have their certifications pulled.

            <angry man>

            Agreed. And I'll take it a step or five further: Any Public or Private School or Public or Private College or University that teaches any form of creation science, including ID in a science classroom, should automatically and immeediately lose their accrededation, lose any and all public funding they're recieving and all teachers involved will not only lose their credentials, but so should all administrators who fail to act, swiftly and sharply to any and all complaints on the matter.

            Religion has no place in the science room. Period. Relative to science, it belongs alongside alchemy, parapsychology and every other system of psuedoscientific nonsense.

            <psycho talk>

            Gad, I hate these people. I hate the so much I can taste it in my balls. They are destroying this country, and making every successive generation of conservative redneck even dumber than the last. As far as I'm concerned, Liberty University, Bob Jones College, Regent University and the Creation Museaum in Kentucky should all be burned to the ground. I have no tolerance for institutions that claim to be centers of learning only to systematically misinform people. People who, BTW, fork over tens of thousands of dollars for the privelege of getting a bacheors degree in medieval superstition.

            </angry man>
            </psycho talk>
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            • Author by progressive tribalist (September 09, 2009 2:31 pm ET)
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              Progressives would do well to learn and speak the language of religion if they ever want to present forceful moral arguments that Christian cons can understand.

              Having said that, I agree that religion does not belong in science class. History of religion? History of the Bible? Sure teach those alongside other historical subjects, just don't call it science.


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              • Author by NiceguyEddie (September 09, 2009 3:47 pm ET)
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                History of religion? History of the Bible? Sure teach those alongside other historical subjects, just don't call it science.

                Oh ABSOLUTELY! I personally think it would be a GREAT IDEA if we had more education about religion, in general. (History or, Survey of, etc...) After all, I doubt there's anything that would do more harm to organized religion that having student take an objective look at how it all came about! LOL.

                No, in all seriousness, I think it would be a good way to round out one's education. On those same lines, We should also teach philosophy (at least Epistomolgy / Theory of Knowledge) in every High School as a required course as well. (Some of the best classes I took in HS!) But you'd have to be careful - this kinf of (Religion) class would never be a problem in the more grown-up (northeast, midwest, pacific) states. There the material could be presented in a strait foreward, factual, objective and NEUTRAL perspective. But in the Southerest and Mountain states? Good luck preventing that from tunring into a funny-mentalist indoctrination machine.

                Just sayin'.
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                • Author by progressive tribalist (September 09, 2009 5:02 pm ET)
                     
                  Good points. I know as well as anybody the way fundamentalists seek to dominate every aspect of our culture.
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      • Author by travellinguist (September 09, 2009 10:35 am ET)
           
        Ben Sargent has drawn some funny and incisive political cartoons about what Texas is doing to education.
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    • Author by LORISNJ (September 09, 2009 10:21 am ET)
         
      When Barbara or any of her creatins can prove intelligent design or creationism then she can have it taught in the schools.

      "'The majority of the constituents in my 24 counties tend to have conservative views, especially about how history is taught to our students," Cargill said

      History is history Ms. Cargill and it has no bias unless you plan on changing the facts - I don't believe she meant "how" history is to be taught but "what" or "whose" history is to be taught. Silly me I didn't think history was a theory class. Next I will find out that Math is a P.E. class!
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    • Author by memoirgirl (September 09, 2009 11:19 am ET)
         
      Here's the email I am sending to NPR in response. I live in Texas and am working to get the video shown in my kid's school. Most of the ISD's here caved and didn't show it. I live in the most conservative district in the nation (based on elected officials). The shoddy work done by NPR is appalling.

      "I am very disappointed in Noah Adam's interview with Barbara Cargill. Ms. Cargill acted personally insulted that the President would "insert" his "agenda" into public schools, presumably over her authority. Ms. Cargill is part of a group of State School Board Members who continuously, and sometimes successfully, attempt to insert personal views of faith and politics in our public schools. Yet, Mr. Adams neglected to ask her about these efforts and let Ms. Cargill act as though the President is not important enough to make things a little inconvenient for a day. The hubris with which Ms. Cargill speaks is endemic of Texas conservative idealogues. They wax patriotic about our country's values but at the moment they give no value to the Office of the President. That you gave this woman a platform to shout her rancor without doing your homework is irresponsible."
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    • Author by BillJ-MN (September 09, 2009 12:17 pm ET)
         
      We've had a handful of young-earth creationists participate here in the past. It would be fun to have a couple of them join the discussion. Even an old-earther would be fun, though not as much.
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      • Author by magnolialover (September 09, 2009 12:30 pm ET)
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        It still cracks me up when I see pictures of the creation museum with the dinosaurs with saddles and all.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (September 09, 2009 12:28 pm ET)
         
      I have never looked at Texas to provide anything other than Rootin'Shootin'and Bible-Thumping and when you do that, you don't have to be disappointed. I just researched the Bible Literacy class that was added to the curriculum. It is optional, but there was no training or materials provided to teachers or districts. This could be a great course for students if taught by a knowledgable teacher, or it could be an Ol'time Baptist Revival class, if they aren't careful. My daughters took a Bible as Literature class in high school, they had Catholic and Jewish Bibles available, which was a big contrast to most students who brought in the King James version. It was a small group, so there could be open discussions and if a student got too doctrinaire, the teacher was knowledgable enough to shut them down.
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      • Author by SLRTX (September 09, 2009 12:47 pm ET)
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        Good for the teacher.

        The problem with these "bible as history", or "bible as literature" classes is the bible is neither historical nor literature.

        If anyone wants to learn about the history of iron-age and bronze-age middle-east history, they should offer a course in that.

        Or just take a literature course.

        This may sound off-topic, but it's another illustration of how the right continues to try to deflect us from real issues & get us all bogged down in trivial pursuits.

        No wonder the "angry mobs" think they lost control of the gov't. It's their fault. They ceded their control to a bunch of loony politicians only concerned with "morality".
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        • Author by John Paradox (September 09, 2009 1:02 pm ET)
             
          I'm not even going to TRY to list my shelf full of 'religion' (mostly Judeo-Christian) books, but will reference one I got from the 'socialist bookstore' (Public Library). Jesus, Interrupted, by Bart D. Ehrman (also wrote: Misquoting Jesus : the story behind who changed the Bible and why).
          He examines the historical background of the Bible, how the contradictions in it came to be, and much more. I also see he has several other books referenced on the subject of examining the Bible and its history.. which I have several books on (Who Wrote The Bible? and How To Read The Bible).
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        • Author by epkklk851 (September 09, 2009 1:18 pm ET)
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          I would disagree that the Bible is not historical or literature. The Bible is certainly not a history text, it is however, an historical artifact. You can examine how it came to be written and how it came to be interpretted fairly easily. And it has influenced how other books were written. And yes, I happen to find the King James version to be one of the most beautiful and influential pieces in the English language. Like Greek mythology, an awareness of the Bible is esssential to understanding much of Western culture.
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          • Author by SLRTX (September 09, 2009 10:56 pm ET)
               
            Yes. As an artifact, there is historical merit. Obviously, there were text that were written long ago. And it does offer some indication of the mind-set and general conditions of the time the text was written.

            But I meant using the bible in school under the delusion that it is a historical document, recording real events, worthy of the same treatment as documents written by Josephus or Herodotus. It just isn't in the same league.

            The bible is a collection of fables, legends and folk lore, handed down through the generations, that can be used to help establish a set of moral values.

            There may be some historical convergences along the way. But, it is not an accurate historical record.
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    • Author by Franksa (September 09, 2009 1:07 pm ET)
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      Wednesday NPR's newscast at midday said Obama "caused" the controversy. Last night on Nightline Cynthia McFadden said Obama "provoked" a confrontation.

      How is the president telling the school kids to work hard and turn off the TV is provocative? The only "provoking" going on here is from Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh and others. Nightline and NPR's, allegedly moderate media outlets, responses to this right wing media circus has been totally Pavlovian.
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      • Author by SLRTX (September 09, 2009 1:26 pm ET)
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        Here's a copy from one of my other post:

        The right-wing "coverage" of this "controversy" applies logic like a domestic abuser...

        The right-wing tells the Obama administration, "You make me do this, so it's your fault!"
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      • Author by donaldmaddog5642 (September 09, 2009 2:35 pm ET)
           
        In Joe Conason's report in PolitickerNY.com, he quotes the former POTUS, George H.W. Bush's comments in a speech he gave to school children in 1991, "Block out the kids who think it's not cool to be smart. I can't for the life of me understand what is so great about being stupid." Seems to me he could have been talking about what his own party has become today.
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    • Author by ttariku20046974 (September 09, 2009 2:38 pm ET)
         
      That is just Texas, why the hell we bothered about their bully behaviors. They have ruined this country for the last 8 years and now they talked about session - hahahahaha, try it and lets see how you goanna put break on the table.
      I have listened the entire speech and it was not only encouraged students but affirm they are our future hopes to recover this country that has been hijacked and morally bankrupted by the republican leadership.
      Media induces most of the hot issues in this country. I think there has to be some kind of media accountability. If media lied on any issue, as FCC penalize in nudity and other cases, FCC should hold media accountable falsely propagating.
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    • Author by loonz (September 09, 2009 3:03 pm ET)
         
      Did anyone else see this story:


      "LOUISVILLE — A mother is angry about a trip led by the head football coach at Breckinridge County High School. The coach took about 20 players on a school bus late last month to his church, where nearly half of them — including her son — were baptized.

      Michelle Ammons said her 16-year-old son was baptized without her knowledge and consent, and she is upset that a public school bus was used to take players to a church service — and that the school district's superintendent was there and did not object."
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    • Author by eekeller (September 09, 2009 3:19 pm ET)
         
      NPR is officially a joke. They are now promoters of the Corporate States of America.
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