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"Mr. Independent" Dobbs repeatedly smears Obama, progressives as "socialist"

August 06, 2009 12:42 pm ET — 86 Comments

CNN's Lou Dobbs has touted himself as politically "independent," and CNN president Jonathan Klein has reportedly referred to Dobbs' CNN show as "a relatively straight newscast." But echoing others in the conservative media, Dobbs has repeatedly used his radio and CNN programs to attack President Obama and other progressives, claiming or suggesting that they or their policies are "socialist," "fascist" or "un-American."

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Dobbs touts himself as "Mr. Independent" on radio and TV

CNN announcer introduces Dobbs as "Mr. Independent." At the beginning of his television show, Dobbs is frequently introduced with: "Here again, Mr. Independent, Lou Dobbs."

Dobbs' CNN website brands him as "Independent."

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[From Dobbs' CNN website, accessed 8/6/09]

Dobbs' radio show website refers to Dobbs as "Mr. Independent" and his show as "Independent Nation."

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[From Dobbs' radio website, accessed 8/6/09]

Dobbs' radio show bio: Dobbs is "a true independent voice ... occupying the vital middle ground between the conservative and liberal voices."

Lou Dobbs is the Independent voice in today's largely liberal mainstream media coverage. And his Independent message is hitting the hearts of American's everywhere.

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He brings a true independent voice to Talk Radio, occupying the vital middle ground between the conservative and liberal voices that dominate much of the segment today. [From Dobbs' radio website, accessed 8/6/09]

CNN's Klein has reportedly called Dobbs' TV show "a relatively straight newscast"

Klein reportedly said that "Dobbs has been doing a relatively straight newscast" since the 2008 election. As Media Matters for America has noted, in an August 1 article headlined, "Lou Dobbs challenges his own network," the Associated Press reported that Klein said that, in the AP's words, since the 2008 elections, "Dobbs has been doing a relatively straight newscast."

Klein reportedly said, "If you watch Lou's show, he's doing more of a straight newscast than he's ever done before." According to an April 26 New York Times article, "Mr. Klein conceded that Mr. Dobbs, who has been an outspoken advocate against illegal immigration, is the most opinionated anchor on CNN 'by a mile.' " (Media Matters documented Klein ignoring that Dobbs is often wrong, advancing falsehoods, as well as distortions, of CNN's other reporting.) The Times further reported that "Mr. Klein also said that the network was trying to adjust the format. 'If you watch Lou's show, he's doing more of a straight newscast than he's ever done before.' "

Klein's claim that Dobbs' radio show is "separate and apart" from his CNN show is undermined by facts -- and Klein himself. As Media Matters has noted, Klein's assertion that Dobbs' radio show is "separate and apart" from his television show is undermined by the fact that Dobbs has used his CNN show to promote his radio birther coverage, and his radio show to promote his CNN birther coverage. Additionally, Dobbs regularly uses his CNN show to promote his radio show, Dobbs' radio syndicator touts his CNN affiliation, and Dobbs frequently hosts CNN colleagues on his radio show. Moreover, Klein himself has said that Dobbs' decisions about his CNN show are "inform[ed]" by his radio show.

Dobbs has compared Obama, progressive policies to "Soviet-style government," "socialism"

Dobbs' onscreen text on CNN asks if "Obama's Healthcare plan" is "class warfare."

From the July 17 edition of Lou Dobbs Tonight:

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Dobbs asserted that passing stimulus and energy bills without reading them is reminiscent of "Stalinist or Soviet-style government." Discussing representatives who passed the stimulus and Waxman-Markey bills without reading them, Dobbs said: "We just like to see that -- if there's anything happening in this country right now that doesn't more closely resemble that of a Stalinist or Soviet-style government."

From the June 29 broadcast of United Stations Radio Networks' The Lou Dobbs Show:

CALLER: Here's what I hope that they will do during this recess week. When members of Congress and senators are home, contact them at home -- where their district office, their state office -- and demand that they sign this pledge.

DOBBS: Yeah, I -- you know, I -- good luck getting contact or acknowledgement that they even exist, or that you and I as voters exist. I'll take any one of the above. We appreciate you being here and wish you all the best. It is -- give us that website one more time.

CALLER: Pledgetoread.com.

DOBBS: Absolutely. Pledgetoread.com. And I want to hear from all of the -- I always talk about this audience being so smart. We want to hear from you if you do actually contact one of your congressmen and actually get them to acknowledge your existence, because we just like to see that -- if there's anything happening in this country right now that doesn't more closely resemble that of a Stalinist or Soviet-style government. So let us know if you have anything that would disturb that particular emotion right now.

Dobbs discussed "Pravda" article about "the American descent to Marxism." On June 3, Dobbs falsely suggested an April 27 opinion piece attacking Obama was the product of the Russian newspaper, Pravda, saying: "A recent opinion column in Russia's Pravda said, because of the president's policies, quote, 'the American descent to Marxism is happening with breathtaking speed.' " In fact, the piece, written by blogger Stanislav Mishin, was published on the Russian website, PRAVDA On-line, a separate media outlet that routinely features sensationalistic stories.

From the June 3 edition of Lou Dobbs Tonight:

DOBBS: President Obama under fire tonight from Venezuela's anti-American President Hugo Chavez. Chavez saying President Obama is taking the United States down the road to socialism and saying Obama's handling of General Motors could make him and Cuba's Fidel Castro look relatively conservative. Chavez said, quote, "Hey, Obama has just nationalized nothing more and nothing less than General Motors. Comrade Obama! Fidel, careful or we are going to end up to his right."

A recent opinion column in Russia's Pravda said, because of the president's policies, quote, "the American descent to Marxism is happening with breathtaking speed."

While discussing Obama's stimulus plan, Dobbs stated that "[s]ocialism has arrived in the first three months of this year, folks." Citing an "amazing stat," which he said demonstrated that "when we talk about socialism, we're not just a-woofing, as the saying goes," Dobbs said on his radio show, "For the first time in the history of the United States, the federal government has supplanted sales, property, and income taxes at the state level as the biggest source of money for state and local governments." He later added: "[S]o socialism has arrived in the first three months of this year, folks, and it is -- well, it is what it is, and it's not going to change, I'm afraid, for a little while."

From the May 5 broadcast of The Lou Dobbs Show:

DOBBS: Here's an amazing stat for you: For the first time, when we talk about socialism, we're not just a-woofing, as the saying goes. For the first time in the history of the United States, the federal government has supplanted sales, property, and income taxes at the state level as the biggest source of money for state and local governments.

Let me say that again: more money than sales taxes, property taxes, and income taxes at the state level. There's more money being put into each state in this country by the federal government than any other source of revenue. Is that amazing?

The sales tax had been the number one source of state and local revenue since the mid-1970s. Before that, property taxes had been the primary source. That changed in the first three months of this year -- that early stimulus money, plus conventional federal aid.

By the way, did you spend that stimulus money? Are you putting it aside? Are you saving up for a rainy day? What are you doing with your stimulus money, 'cause Barack Obama wants to know. We've gotta -- we gotta know what's going on with the stimulus money, because this economy is dependent on that stimulus money. Remember that. Nothing happens without stimulus. No stimulus, no economy, no nothing.

But, anyway, so socialism has arrived in the first three months of this year, folks, and it is -- well, it is what it is, and it's not going to change, I'm afraid, for a little while.

Dobbs: Cabinet secretaries are "acting like commissars in the old Soviet Union." On the April 16 broadcast of his radio show, Dobbs said cabinet secretaries "are acting like commissars in the old Soviet Union," adding that "it's time for them to get rolled back" because "[t]his is America, and it's not some fascist state."

Dobbs: Obama's policies are "raising new concerns about what many are calling a socialist revolution in prospect -- some say even a risk of totalitarianism." On the March 31 edition of his CNN show, Dobbs claimed Obama policies are "raising new concerns about what many are calling a socialist revolution in prospect -- some say even a risk of totalitarianism." Dobbs made this assertion while displaying onscreen text reading: "Socialist Revolution":

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Dobbs: America is "moving toward a combination of corporate power and political power" that is "disturbingly similar to what we witnessed in Italy in the 1930s." Later on his March 31 CNN show, referring to the Pay for Performance Act, which "would tie pay to performance at companies that have received direct capital investments under the Troubled Asset Relief Program," Dobbs said: "We are moving toward a combination of corporate power and political power that is so disturbingly similar to what we witnessed in Italy in the 1930s, and it's not funny."

Dobbs stated that Venezuela's Hugo Chavez's "little love affair with his fellow socialist Barack Obama didn't last long." On the March 24 broadcast of his radio show, Dobbs said of Chavez, "Guess what? That little love affair with his fellow socialist Barack Obama didn't last long." He later added: "It didn't take long for that little love affair to end, did it? Oh, my goodness."

Contrary to "Independent" branding, Dobbs follows conservative media in advancing smears

Conservatives in media warn of social-fasc-commun-Nazi-McCarthy-Marxism. Since January, Media Matters has documented numerous examples of conservatives in the media warning of socialism, fascism, communism, Nazism, McCarthyism, and Marxism, or using such language to describe President Obama or other Democrats.

Dobbs smears progressive voices as "Orwellian," "fascist," and "un-American"

While claiming Maricopa County, Arizona, Sheriff Joe Arpaio was "being attacked," Dobbs stated that "this feels like either brave new world Orwellian" or "Stalin has secretly been resurrected." On his CNN show on March 13, while claiming that Arpaio was "being attacked by four left-wing congresspeople who have an obvious agenda here," Dobbs concluded: "I swear to you, this feels like either Brave New World Orwellian, or you know, absolutely Joseph Stalin has secretly been resurrected."

From the March 13 edition of Lou Dobbs Tonight:

DOBBS: You know, you're sitting here with a community -- Phoenix -- which is at the heart of Maricopa County, Congressman, as you well know. You represent Phoenix as well as Maricopa County. It's in your district. It's become the kidnapping capital of the country, and the violence is accelerating.

The issue of human smuggling, drug smuggling -- Arizona one of the principal corridors. This sheriff is the most prominent and the most effective local official in the battle against illegal drugs, illegal immigration, trying to bring order, and he's being attacked by four left-wing congresspeople who have an obvious agenda here, and there's not been a peep being made. I mean, this is -- I swear to you, this feels like either Brave New World Orwellian, or you know, absolutely Joseph Stalin has secretly been resurrected.

Dobbs claimed "fascist liberal voices" are "the only sound" on college campuses, said campuses are "a little fascist, really, and a little un-American." On March 13 on CNN, Dobbs interviewed a documentary director on "why it seems extraordinarily liberal, but fascist liberal voices are being allowed as the only sound" on college campuses. In teasing the segment, Dobbs referred to "those so-called university campuses" as "a little fascist, really, and a little un-American."

From the March 11 edition of Lou Dobbs Tonight:

DOBBS: Up next, free speech is being stifled in a place you would expect freedom of expression to be welcomed. We'll be talking with the director of a documentary on, well, those so-called university campuses that are a little fascist, really, and a little un-American.

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DOBBS: Up next, the battle over free speech on our college campuses and why it seems extraordinarily liberal, but fascist liberal voices are being allowed as the only sound on those campuses. I'll be talking with the director of a provocative documentary on this very important topic next.

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DOBBS: Something that you illustrated -- and I can't remember the name of the young man. I believe it was at Cal Poly. I mean, this young man was hounded for absolutely nothing, but putting up a poster of the title of a book, which -- by the way, you did a remarkable job with whatever the title of that bureaucratic moron was, as you were trying to talk with the president of the school. He was hounded for months.

MALONEY: Eighteen months -- 18 months of his life. It had to go to federal court just for hanging a flyer announcing a speaker who was coming to talk about his book.

DOBBS: He recovered the legal fees. He -- I know that. Did he ever get an apology from the institution?

MALONEY: No, he never did. And that was part of the legal settlement. The school never wants to admit that they were wrong. I mean, it's plain to you and me that they were wrong, but --

DOBBS: What is the full name of the school?

MALONEY: That's Cal Poly, California Polytechnic. And it's a public university, so the taxpayers of California ended up footing the bill for his legal fees.

DOBBS: Let me say this to Cal Polytechnic, to the president -- who apparently never would talk with you. I just want to say something to that president.

You, sir, are a coward and a fool, and, as far as I'm concerned, just this side of a fascist. But the cowardly foolishness is the part that really should bother you, because you run a university with impressionable young minds, as you document so well, and minds that are growing and should have a number of voices, a diversity of ideas, as you point out in your terrific documentary on -- in the marketplace of ideas. I mean, how can institutions justify this kind of behavior?

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    • Author by Bad News (August 06, 2009 12:47 pm ET)
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      Lou Dobbs is a Disgrace to his Profession.
      If Lou lived in Texas he would be for Secession.
      Lou is beginning to behave like a traped Animal.
      If only he knew that it's CNN that will be the Cannible.

      Speak truth to power.


      Mr. News
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      • Author by machinehead (August 06, 2009 3:12 pm ET)
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        We ARE in Obama's socialist revolution. Leftists think this is great. They think this will make things "fair", and make people "equal".

        But socialism is the great lie. It has been a disaster everytime it has been tried, and it will always be a disaster, ESPECIALLY in "diverse" societies.

        You may think that Marxism is great because it ends "class struggle", but what really happens is that while the free-market wealthy are destroyed, the POLITICAL CLASS moves in to assume the role of the wealthy, powerful and privileged! But governments don't create wealth, they consume it. The masses live as a sea of poor slaves to the state, having lost the freedom they once had, while the politico's live it up. Power to the people??? NO! It's POWER TO THE POLITICIANS!
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        • Author by bilbo_dies (August 06, 2009 8:07 pm ET)
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          Boy are you confused.
          First you mix socialism with marxism, then you mention something about the politicians taking over for the rich. Seems like politicians have already gone there (not all but some) and generally play nice with the rich.

          But governments don't create wealth, they consume it. The masses live as a sea of poor slaves to the state, having lost the freedom they once had, while the politico's live it up.

          OOH. Sweet statement. Now just replace governments, and politico's with "the wealthy".
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          • Author by machinehead (August 07, 2009 12:56 pm ET)
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            Why are you confused?
            Socialism, like communism, are based on Marxist philosophy. Communism seeks to transfer all property and means of production to the state. Socialism is like communism "lite" wherein it does not own all property and means of production, but seeks to heavily control them through confiscatory taxation and regulation.
            And yes, in these systems, the political CLASS become the ones of wealth, privilege, power, and gold-plated health insurance. Yeah...that's really helping the people.

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        • Author by bilbo_dies (August 06, 2009 8:14 pm ET)
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          BTW Socialism, by itself, isnt' bad.
          All government is, to some extent, socialist, since the government controls certain aspects of resource use and industry in order to protect and provide services for its citizens.



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          • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (August 07, 2009 9:16 am ET)
               
            Yeah, it makes you wonder whether machinesinhishead builds his own roads instead of using those socialistic one the government builds, puts out his fires rather than using that socialistic fire dapertment, and has his own private security forces rather than relying on that socialistic police force?...
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            • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (August 07, 2009 9:17 am ET)
                 
              Of course, maybe I should be using that socialistic spell-check once in a while...sheesh...
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            • Author by machinehead (August 07, 2009 1:10 pm ET)
                 
              Here is the part where you'll probably get lost. It's more complicated than a bumper sticker. Government is necessary. Federal gov provides for national defense, interstate highways, national parks and land management, support for state governments and services, etc. However, one must be VERY CAREFUL to limit government control over certain institutions. Health care, large scale manufacturing, and the FINANCIAL industry. Once government is allowed partial or complete OWNERSHIP of these industries, they can then DICTATE with intimate detail how one lives and even dies. Any free people must never allow this to happen.

              Leftists may think this is a great idea now, but what about when the next "right wing" president takes office with these new powers? One should never give any government this much power.
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        • Author by oversees (August 07, 2009 7:20 am ET)
             
          This isn't about Marxism. You are ill-advised and ill-informed. The health care proposal is not even close to those of West Europe or Canada or half of the world. Besides, if West Europe or Japan is your idea of socialism, then consider this:

          Export World Leader: Germany (for the last 7 years)(US is third)
          Richest Countries: US, Japan, Germany
          Leader in Solar Power Technology: Germany
          Leader in Machinery Technology: Germany
          Leader in % of uninsured in Industrial Nations: US (by a long shot)
          Least workers rights in Industrial Nations: US

          The list goes on. But the point is: The US is great, but we are falling behind in some areas and we are not taking care of our people like we should. And that is one reason why we need government.

          Once the US thrived because we knew our strengths and tried to rectify our weaknesses. We were not afraid of change and of the new. Now we are trying to preserve and resist chance.

          P.S. Social security and Medicare are also "socialist", yet most conservatives want it untouched. Does that make sense?
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    • Author by mk3872 (August 06, 2009 12:51 pm ET)
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      What does a conservative "news" person have to do to get fired these days?

      This is a clear double-standard, particularly when you look at how Dan Rather was canned for basing a story on what was "questionable" evidence and documentation, just like Dobbs has done with conspiracy theories like Birthers and North American Union ...
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      • Author by magnolialover (August 06, 2009 1:02 pm ET)
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        Don't forget his little thing about leprosy.
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      • Author by snoopy (August 06, 2009 2:17 pm ET)
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        If you're a liberal reporter, all you have to do is say george bush hid in a bunker on 9-11 while rudy gulliani acted like a leader. For conservatives the bar is much higher.
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      • Author by machinehead (August 06, 2009 2:45 pm ET)
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        Except that Dan Rather reported a false story. The case of Obama spending nearly a million dollars to keep his real records secret is a fact. The so-called "birthers" have a legitimate demand: Mr. Obama: prove you are who you say you are!
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        • Author by eweston8542983 (August 06, 2009 10:59 pm ET)
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          Somehow we know much more about Obama's birth, than we do about Shrubs Nat Guard time. Howcum?
          Any info/link you'd like to put up about those near million dollars would be, unexpected.
          You might check out the good ole MMfa archives about Obama's birth certificate. It's all backed up.
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        • Author by rendesign (August 07, 2009 1:08 am ET)
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          What does it take to get through to you people. The birth certificate hasa been produced and substantiated. And even if it hadn't in this country the burden of proof is on the people bringing the charge. In other words it is incumbent on the "birthers" to prove he wasn't born in this country. If they can't I think they should be prosecuted for treason. And please don't bring up that ridiculous Kenyan birth certificate. Even your lord and master Karl Rove said it was probably a forgery. It was so riddled with errors that a fifth grader could have spotted it.
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          • Author by machinehead (August 07, 2009 12:42 pm ET)
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            What does it take to get through to YOU people?? This issue has NOT been settled. Obama WANTS it settled (of course), but he will NOT just release the ACTUAL documents. You don't think this is the slightest bit odd??
            Sure, you like Obama so much that anything he does is O.K.
            But beware!
            If you allow changes that run counter to the spirit of the constitution to remain in effect, what happens the next time a "right wing" president is in office with these new privileges? In the end, we lose that much more control over government.
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        • Author by worrierking (August 07, 2009 9:07 am ET)
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          Very few people were present at President Obama's birth. The official records show he was born in the US.

          GWB served with hundreds of others. none remember seeing him in uniform at the end of his service. The official documentation is sketchy at best.

          The birthers have as legitimate a demand as did the church against Galileo or the flat earthers against Columbus or Magellan.

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        • Author by bilbo_dies (August 07, 2009 2:00 pm ET)
             
          machinehead I won't get into the whole birther issue. Anyone who believes that crap is as crazy as the people who believe that 9/11 was pulled off by our own government.

          As far as Dan Rather (not that I cared for him much), he wasn't fired for reporting a false story. He was fired due to the outrage, from the right, that "one" document had not been vetted properly. None of the other information that he reported was ever proved false and Bush has NEVER provided any data to prove that he actually finished his National Guard tour.
          Please note: there are a lot of guards, from the same time frame, who never "completed" their service either. The only difference being that none of them ran for president.
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        • Author by congero6189599 (August 07, 2009 3:33 pm ET)
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          Wow were do you people come from. Your name is appropriate--Machinehead!
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      • Author by seroquel (August 06, 2009 3:00 pm ET)
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        I'm confused, too. What does it take to get these nuts fired? I really felt bad for Dan, because he was set up. Lou Dobbs needs to be treated like Glenn Beck: Contact the advertisers and ask them if their policies include conspiracies and race baiting. Show them examples of what these talking heads do.
        They lose money, they get fired. Capitalism at it's finest.
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        • Author by bittermarv (August 06, 2009 4:42 pm ET)
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          They lose money, they get fired. Capitalism at [its] finest.

          Tell that to Phil Donahue.
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        • Author by drphonic (August 07, 2009 12:53 am ET)
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          Or just stop watching CNN. It's an absolute disgrace.
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    • Author by clams casino (August 06, 2009 12:53 pm ET)
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      Is it just me or has Dobbs become more overtly right wing since Obama took office? And I'm not just thinking of the birther nonsense.
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      • Author by mk3872 (August 06, 2009 1:09 pm ET)
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        I agree. It is his fear of minorities and a black man in the WH that is showing ...
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        • Author by right ON (August 06, 2009 1:37 pm ET)
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          I have no idea how unjustly accusing Obama of being a Socialist is some evidence of fearing minorities or a black man in the White House, but you sure gave the person you responded too a golden opportunity for a homerun.
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          • Author by mk3872 (August 06, 2009 1:46 pm ET)
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            I agree that the Socialist charge does not indicate that. But I do believe that the charge of being a non-U.S. born non-citizen does and so does Dobb's incesent rallying against anyone non-white.
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            • Author by right ON (August 06, 2009 2:02 pm ET)
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              Again, I have not seen any proof of a racial motivation where this birthing stupidity is concerned either; but whatever Dobbs' motivation is, he is not doing his credibility any favors by clinging to it.
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              • Author by snoopy (August 06, 2009 2:49 pm ET)
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                Think of it as driving while black. Obama didn't break any laws, but the cops pulled him over anyways and demanded to see his license and registration.
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                • Author by right ON (August 06, 2009 2:59 pm ET)
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                  Cops normally don't get accused of pulling people over for partisan political reasons, so your analogy doesn't work.
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                  • Author by seroquel (August 06, 2009 3:02 pm ET)
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                    Sorry right on, but it happens in L.A. ALL the time. Fail. Not for political reasons, for racial reasons.
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                    • Author by right ON (August 06, 2009 3:04 pm ET)
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                      Thank you for dismissing the analogy then.
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                      • Author by NewBee (August 06, 2009 3:55 pm ET)
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                        a·nal·o·gy

                        n., pl. -gies.

                        1. Similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar.
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                        • Author by right ON (August 06, 2009 4:45 pm ET)
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                          You don't even know what you've responded to, do you?
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                          • Author by my4cents (August 06, 2009 10:09 pm ET)
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                            You don't realize that you are into your usual semantics, do you?
                            I do not care about your word parsing except that I click on articles (not necessarily this one) that have a lot of replies hoping to read different view points.
                            What I usually find is that when you post something, anything, the article says 100 comments and most of them are your defense's.
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                        • Author by clams casino (August 06, 2009 8:20 pm ET)
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                          It's hopeless. He's a concrete thinker and is incapable of understanding most analogies. And that's not a joke or an insult, just a fact.
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                    • Author by machinehead (August 07, 2009 1:34 pm ET)
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                      Janet Napolitano's report to law enforcement said people should be scrutinized and pulled over for having "conservative" bumper stickers on their cars. At least no gov official ever offered a memo recommending pulling someone over for "driving while black".
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                  • Author by wzwriter (August 06, 2009 4:12 pm ET)
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                    Cops normally don't get accused of pulling people over for partisan political reasons, so your analogy doesn't work.

                    Neither does your brain, apparantly....
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                    • Author by pongotwistleton (August 06, 2009 4:23 pm ET)
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                      What a genius you are. You snidely attack someone's brain capacity while misspelling the word "apparantly." How long did it take you to come up with your clever retort?
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                      • Author by NewBee (August 06, 2009 8:57 pm ET)
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                        It was a great dig, despite the typo. My guess is that it took hardly any time at all. Liberals just think faster than right-wingers.
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                      • Author by my4cents (August 06, 2009 10:18 pm ET)
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                        I am guessing one second. Does that still make him a genius or do you have something you want to convey?
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                • Author by pongotwistleton (August 06, 2009 3:01 pm ET)
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                  That's a pretty dumb analogy. Obama's our elected president and is accountable to us. It's the media's duty to question him, and to treat him with a healthy dose of skepticism. It's pathetic that you resort to the race card everytime someone derides the prez for one thing or another
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                  • Author by NewBee (August 06, 2009 8:58 pm ET)
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                    t's pathetic that you resort to the race card
                    What's pathetic is that the right-wingers have taken their racism underground; attempting to water it down just enough to provide plausible deniability.
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                  • Author by mollybeejay (August 06, 2009 11:24 pm ET)
                       
                    Lou Dobbs and his ilk are not questioning the president. they are lying, obfuscating the truth and down right ignoring the truth. In their zeal to make President fail, they do not understand that if the president fails, America fails, we all fail. After reading these post and others all over the net, that is the main theme. it is racism pure and simple. I have never seen such blatant racism. The problem pure and simple. it is scary because the same white people who are calling President Obama socialist, comparing him to Hitler and proffering other horrible analogies are the same white people who slink out in the dead od night wearing the pointy little robes with the KKK on them.

                    If these hatemongers don't watch out this country will erupt in violence and they will have none to blame but themselves.
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                  • Author by mikehuck1976 (August 07, 2009 1:53 pm ET)
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                    "It's the media's duty to question him, and to treat him with a healthy dose of skepticism."

                    Skeptical about his verifiable birth records? And claiming anything that the government gets involved in is socialism? I think you and I have different understandings of what the media should be doing. They should be debunking birther nonsense and then getting onto the real stories - such as explaining what socialism is instead of throwing it around like some kind of label (such as godless communist was a couple of generations ago).
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              • Author by bittermarv (August 06, 2009 4:44 pm ET)
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                Dobbs also spends an inordinate amount of time fretting over illegal immigration.
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              • Author by mikehuck1976 (August 07, 2009 1:50 pm ET)
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                I think you would agree that "proof" of racial motiations is almost impossible to verify. But, I have to say - these birthers (Dobbs' new flock) showing up at these townhall meetings (after supporting Bush for 8 years down the drain) 6 months into Obama's presidency and screaming "I want my country back" sure seems to have some racial overtones to me. They want their country back from whom? Who did they lose their country to?
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          • Author by clams casino (August 06, 2009 6:09 pm ET)
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            I have no idea how unjustly accusing Obama of being a Socialist is some evidence of fearing minorities or a black man in the White House, but you sure gave the person you responded too a golden opportunity for a homerun.


            So you're going to use this to take another racial potshot at me? In two days you've posted two responses to me and both have been race-baiting non sequiturs. What is wrong with you?
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            • Author by right ON (August 06, 2009 6:17 pm ET)
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              You were lobbed a softball right down the middle of the fat part of the plate, in your strike zone. Fine, strike out then.
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              • Author by clams casino (August 06, 2009 6:28 pm ET)
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                More thinly veiled race-baiting.

                Just so others are clear, (Tommy, aka Right On) knows that race issues are very important to me, so he's always desperate to instigate an argument with me over race. It's a mystery why he thinks this race-baiting tactic could ever end well for him.

                Tommy, just save it for when race is actually part of the topic.
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          • Author by machinehead (August 07, 2009 1:31 pm ET)
               
            Some of you people here are really confused. Some are saying "at last a socialist in the white house", and you're saying Obama is being falsely accused of being a socialist!
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      • Author by Meremark (August 06, 2009 4:09 pm ET)
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        clams si: It may not be everyone's cup of tea(bags) but for nearly 40 years I've examined astrology charts to find some understanding (as I have) of human nature's normalcy and anomalies. For Dobbs as Sept.24, 1945, the Sun (spirit) sits 'confused' on the line between Virgo and Libra, a sort of cognitive dissonance, which impaired condition then defers to the bull-headed Moon (personality) sited in early Taurus, perhaps at 7 or 8 degrees for a birth time-of-day 2 or 3 hours before sunrise when Leo is rising, (an educated guess at the birthtime is termed 'rectification,' and in this case I considered his physical appearance or visage (which the 'rising sign' supposedly confers), his 'theatrical' (celebrity) renown, and life-event timings of 1st marriage in 1970 and 1st child (a girl, I guess) in 1971).

        My birthtime 'guess' is quite subjective, is speculative, includes conjecture -- accurate birthtime provides a certain refinement of view; but regardless, (if guessed wrong), any hour during that day is imbued and instilled with a Mercury - Uranus aspect of the character described in cast 'boilerplate' (or 'conventional platitude') referenced below.

        If accurate, it presages, (first, yes, that since about a Sept.2008 onset he is experiencing an acute episode of cognitive distress), a 'nervous breakdown,' which can be verified (or else refuted) soon in accounts of his personal events which happen (or else don't happen) on Aug.22,'09, and (culminating) Sept.23,'09, (+/- margin of error, the next day is his birthday). If he remains on-air (intact) after that, then his crisis abates. As I see it, these are his career-end dates.

        Here's the locus of the matter (my emphases added):
        Mercury square Uranus - © 2004 - 2009 Copyright AstrologyWeekly.com
        ... we find eccentric thought-patterns, intellectual superiority, the 'know it all' syndrome, and a changeability of mind and emotions which can both confuse and antagonise others.

        The main difference with the square's influence is the dominance of the Uranian 'rebel' attitude, which will condition your social expression. Your initial reaction to most social traditions, rules, and beliefs will be a belligerent opposition, even if you hide most of this activity within your own thoughts. A 'rebel of the mind!'.

        There are at least two sorts of rebel: those who just oppose, and those who oppose and offer radical solutions to social problems. You are likely to have the tendency to be the 'opposer', as your ideas are often erratic and impractical, lacking in the ability to be easily applied by people in everyday life. This can be frustrating for you; but until you come to better terms with contemporary life, it may be inevitable. Part of this problem is your inability to acquiesce in social rules and accepted ways of behaviour, allied to an innate resistance to authority. You fail to see why you have to live in certain ways, acting and behaving according to a social code of conduct, or thinking within predictable and conventional parameters. You have enough of a sense of freedom to know that life does not have to be the way your parents, teachers, employers, politicians and priests tell you. So you become an outsider.

        Alienation from society can vary in degree; but you may have to be careful that your tendency is not just negative in nature, but possesses a positive creativity for social change. Otherwise it can be just a pose, an image, a self-indulgence, especially when young. ...


        At the link those paragraphs include (but I omitted) a reference to the following, (my emphases added). (For astrology students, this cites the progressed Mercury, stationary, opposing Uranus natal and progressed.)
        Mercury opposition Uranus - © 2004 - 2009 Copyright AstrologyWeekly.com
        ... you are likely to experience conflicts in your social relationships. The problem area will be in how you express yourself in communicating with others, and those inner attitudes which condition that style of communication.

        Whilst you will have considerable mental vitality, the difficulty will be in directing this into productive channels. The tendency will be towards an erratic inner activity; the nature of your beliefs, ideals and thought-patterns will be changeable; and the attractions of new stimulation will often tempt you away from completing existing projects. The challenge of the new redirects your energy and interests; and so your commitments and responsibilities may feel like restrictive liabilities.

        Despite this erratic pattern of mind, you tend to insist that whatever you say and think is valid, even though only a short time ago you were vehemently declaring an entirely opposite attitude, idea or belief. Obviously, this can lead to interpersonal conflict, as most people prefer dealing with relatively stable and consistent individuals, as it helps to develop trust and continuity. Yet if others challenge you by repeating past statements that you have made and are now contradicting, you tend to take offence, often attempting to deny that you ever did say that. Essentially, your reaction is often to deny all prior expressions of your self, refusing to take any responsibility for them. Having experienced this aspect of your nature, many people will begin to draw away from maintaining a relationship with you, because you seem unreliable and difficult to believe. This in a peculiar way reinforces a tendency in you to see yourself as 'unique and misunderstood,' which you often use to justify a rejection of social compromise; and you never admit in any circumstances that you are wrong. You appear to project the belief that you 'know it all', and probably succeed more in deluding yourself that you do than in persuading others of your expert knowledge.

        Underlying these more negative styles of expression is a personality which experiences inner confusion and insecurity, yet attempts to hide this by a superficial image of intellectual superiority. Emotionally, there is likely to be immaturity and lack of ease with that level of your nature, and you are unlikely to touch others easily with the warmth of your personality. This lack of sensitivity and responsiveness to the more intangible 'feeling' aspect of human contact often leads to a tactless and blunt expression, where your ignorance of diplomacy can have negative consequences. ...


        There is also a innate severe instance of the following nature:
        Jupiter conjunct Neptune - © 2004 - 2009 Copyright AstrologyWeekly.com
        ... both the positive and the negative qualities of both planets are present and highly active.

        Tendencies towards excess, idealism, creativity and naivety will be evident. The Jupiter impulse of expansion may encourage you to reach beyond your actual capabilities. Whilst this can aid in stretching you - and in some cases you will succeed to a greater degree - the likeiihood is that when it is combined with a Neptunian distorted perception of your abilities you will fail more regularly than triumph. Over time this can become a repetitive and inhibitory pattern which powers your self-confidence. ...


        Unabridged material at the links offers a fuller sense of the human nature (in Dobbs) being described here.


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        • Author by eweston8542983 (August 06, 2009 11:18 pm ET)
             
          Looks like you struck a nerve out there. It's an interesting analylsis.
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    • Author by shaggles (August 06, 2009 12:54 pm ET)
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      I think the word pretty much lost all meaning when Bill O'Reilly claimed he was an independant.
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      • Author by cArn (August 06, 2009 2:07 pm ET)
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        I think the word pretty much lost all meaning when Bill O'Reilly claimed he was an independant.

        I totally agree, shaggles.
        Some of the most hardcore idealogues I've met have claimed to be independents like O'Reilly. The word has long since been used as a defense for people who spout liberal\conservative talking points but want to be seen as less partiasn or "open-minded".
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        • Author by magnolialover (August 06, 2009 2:55 pm ET)
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          Don't forget, they also use libertarian a lot as well (ie, Neal Boortz and some others).
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    • Author by donaldmaddog5642 (August 06, 2009 1:09 pm ET)
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      So Obama is a socialist. Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah. So what does that make the right-wing conservatives? True-blue and loyal Americans? Certainly not "red" white and blue patriots they claim to be. Look up the definition of "traitor" in your dictionary, Mr. Dobbs.
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      • Author by machinehead (August 06, 2009 3:02 pm ET)
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        Obama is a socialist, and he's proud of it. He doesn't deny it. He was pretty clear about his philosophy during the campaign. The problem is that so many people were so intoxicated by the idea of electing a black man to the white house, they neglected to actually PAY ATTENTION to what he was saying.
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      • Author by seroquel (August 06, 2009 3:04 pm ET)
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        I don't get it either. Since when did Republicans become more American than me, a liberal, open minded person? Is it because I'm not a zombie?
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      • Author by dexteritas0071418 (August 06, 2009 4:27 pm ET)
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        hahaha traitor again!

        Remember H. Clinton screeching that dissenters are not unAmerican or traitorous? Why has the opinion on that changed???
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        • Author by Craig (August 06, 2009 8:41 pm ET)
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          I'm not impressed by a couple of anonymous people on a website. Let me know when SCLM personalities start calling conservatives traitors. You know, an equivalent of Rush Limbaugh. Or Bill O'Reilly. Or Sean Hannity, or Ann Coulter, or Glenn Beck, or Karl Rove, or Michael Savage....

          p.s. Screeching?
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          • Author by my4cents (August 06, 2009 10:29 pm ET)
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            these days, whenever a republican, conservative, libertarian, patriot, freedom lover (anyone but a hard left liberal) speaks, writes, it has to have an insulting word in it.
            you are a kook, socialist, fascist, nazi, terrorist-muslim sympathizer if you notice the insult.
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            • Author by machinehead (August 07, 2009 1:13 pm ET)
                 
              Look at this website by leftists. every other word for conservatives are insults. Oh.. but I guess they deserve it.
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    • Author by welsh009286 (August 06, 2009 2:13 pm ET)
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      Wikipedia offers a nice overview.
      From Wikipedia:

      In 2007, Dobbs repeatedly and falsely claimed that Hispanics were responsible for bringing 7,000 new cases of leprosy to the United States in a three year period. The actual total number of all leprosy cases in the United States in that time frame was on the order of 1/20th of that amount.


      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Dobbs
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    • Author by lewislaw7153 (August 06, 2009 2:42 pm ET)
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      Imagine, our government investing in our STATES and our COUNTRY instead of War . .

      Balls on this POTUS and our government!!
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    • Author by kteachums (August 06, 2009 3:36 pm ET)
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      I was never political until I decided to campaign for President Obama. I started watching the news in a different light. Right away I knew Fox was not reporting the truth but, CNN seemed to be doing their job. One day I listened to Lou. I honestly believed that CNN had hired Fox. He sure does not sound like an independent to me. He doesn't stay in the middle. I didn't even know about him and during the campaign a while back I questioned his shows. Recently, he has been worse. He sounds like an old angry man. I'm sure he has been in this profession for a long time like I have been an educator for a long time but, he needs to go back and look at his shows. If I were to evaluate whether he stays in the middle he would receive a failing grade. When it comes to the President he sways toward the opposition each time. He doesn't cause people to reflect on what he says. He actually has opinions. I don't think that is the purpose of his show. Our young President has endured enough criticism for a lifetime. It is time to give him credit. Seems like everytime he does enjoy a degree of success the media talks it to death or adds a motive of their own. If Lou can't stay in the middle he needs to change his shows.
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      • Author by my4cents (August 07, 2009 11:11 pm ET)
           
        I thumb upped you.
        "He sounds like an old angry man."
        I think it is a true but incomplete observation. At some point, these old guys,
        1. realized the country they are in is not the country they grew up in, and,
        2. decided to make money off of their realization by fooling similar people.
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    • Author by roninkannushi1711 (August 06, 2009 4:17 pm ET)
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      Lou Dobbs mongers fear. Hopelessness in his cadence fuels defenseless propaganda. His litany of outrage meanders self-righteously.

      Living in fear is a horrible feeling. I imagine a Lou Dobbs style neighborhood. Not tush, or plush, but primo, as they say. All the amenities, and then some. I would like to walk the streets, and admire the foliage. How far would I get? Too far, not!

      Why kid ourselves? We know, what it is, and deny it. This is not your bedroom! We must act, or lose. The ilk want to own everything. That means they will own you! Socialist, we don't need any stinking socialist. The new bad word may be Capitalism. Rather, Capitalist. The new oligarchy. Who cares about your ethnic, cultural, and religious background. How rich are you?

      If they invested in deeds vs. litigation, we would maximize the potential growth, of our world. Taking the lead could be done by Congress. So what, if Lou Dobbs can not afford his solid diamond fireplace. He would be famous, for good deeds.

      (message to self: Dream on, Ronin.)

      I have one vote. One. The vote is mightier than pen and sword. Our words speak when written, my vote counts when cast.
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    • Author by roninkannushi1711 (August 06, 2009 4:17 pm ET)
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      Lou Dobbs mongers fear. Hopelessness in his cadence fuels defenseless propaganda. His litany of outrage meanders self-righteously.

      Living in fear is a horrible feeling. I imagine a Lou Dobbs style neighborhood. Not tush, or plush, but primo, as they say. All the amenities, and then some. I would like to walk the streets, and admire the foliage. How far would I get? Too far, not!

      Why kid ourselves? We know, what it is, and deny it. This is not your bedroom! We must act, or lose. The ilk want to own everything. That means they will own you! Socialist, we don't need any stinking socialist. The new bad word may be Capitalism. Rather, Capitalist. The new oligarchy. Who cares about your ethnic, cultural, and religious background. How rich are you?

      If they invested in deeds vs. litigation, we would maximize the potential growth, of our world. Taking the lead could be done by Congress. So what, if Lou Dobbs can not afford his solid diamond fireplace. He would be famous, for good deeds.

      (message to self: Dream on, Ronin.)

      I have one vote. One. The vote is mightier than pen and sword. Our words speak when written, my vote counts when cast.
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    • Author by jflash97 (August 06, 2009 4:33 pm ET)
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      "Mr. Independent of Any Real Credibility."

      Doesn't roll off the tongue quite as well, but seems to be more accurate.
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    • Author by Kathleen (August 06, 2009 7:52 pm ET)
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      When Lou Dobbs said last night, "I'm an Independent" everyone in our room spontaneously laughed out loud. His bias, or rather his prejudice, interferes with every newscast and every interview. When he hears an opposing (liberal) view, he either cuts the person off, vehemently disagrees, or goes to commercial. His "facts" are usually slanted or wrong. Frequently his newscasts are shoddy and pander to the hate groups in this society or those marginal types who are rage-filled and look for scapegoats. He willingly fills this void for them. The CNN network should be ashamed to stoop to the "birther" level and the Limbaugh and Beck mentality. Respected Journalism must be a thing of the past. Dan Rather was fired for one incident. Lou Dobbs is unethical and/or incorrect on a daily basis.
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    • Author by Robin Hood (August 06, 2009 10:19 pm ET)
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      I am not a Lou Dobbs fan since I watch O'Reilly all the time,
      but isn't Lou right about the socialism? Our President took
      over the banking industry, he took over some of the domestic
      car industry, and he wants to take over the health care industry.

      According to the dictionary definition of socialism, those
      actions fit this definition to a t. Under what drug-induced
      coma can you call Dobbs off-base on this one. Government control
      of the economy is the bulls-eye of socialism. Our President is
      doing better than Chavez, in fact Chavez is envious.

      If the smear fits, wear it.
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    • Author by welsh009286 (August 06, 2009 10:28 pm ET)
         
      Lou Dobbs is NOT Lou Dobbs. His father sold propane in Texas. That would make make his real identity..... Bobby Hill, son of Hank Hill! I want to see his real birth certificate - NOW.
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    • Author by fg2001 (August 06, 2009 11:03 pm ET)
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      Why is Lou Dobbs still at CNN ? He belongs to FOX together with the other idiots, he is getting worse than O'Reily and Hannity...
      Maybe he should joing Rush Limbach..
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    • Author by drphonic (August 07, 2009 12:32 am ET)
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      Sheeeeeeit, Jonathan Klein would stick up for Ann Coulter - or David Duke - if it made his whore of a "news" channel money. CNN will present any angle it thinks people want to see. It has NO allegiance to truth or decency whatsoever. If republicans make the most noise - which they usually do - CNN will bend over to make them happy. There is very little if any difference between FOX "news" & CNN. Cable news is finished. Look at it this way though: at least you know you can't trust them......
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    • Author by dragoj (August 07, 2009 9:48 am ET)
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      Quick now....go run and report me to the White House. Obama is a Socialist. I believe in free speech...period. Having lived in and traveled to many Socialist countries for 15 years, I know a Socialist when I see one. I've had the "joy" of Socialist medicine while living abroad when the U.S. military hospitals could not provide the service. Go ahead with your certainty in Obama, see what you get. Finally, as a former mental health therapist, I think we have many compulsive spenders in Washington trying to fill a void in their lives, fueled by identity confusion and narcissism, and that they are in need of therapy...soon. Call me a nut; a mobster, a racist, ignorant, an idealog, or as Nancy Pelosi would like...a terrorist. I know what I am; I an American fighting for the integrity of the U.S. Constitution, and not the United States of Mexico, the United States of the Socialist Republic, or the United Stated of Arabia...just the United States of America. Finally, left wing organizations such as this defend a woman's right to her own body. Yet when the majority of Americans (legal Americans) voice their right over who medically treats their body, liberals scream "mob."

      Signed,
      Been there; done that; fighhting to prevent it in my country.
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    • Author by jrrrr (August 07, 2009 5:54 pm ET)
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      Gee, liberals need a new mantra...this constant "what! you disagree, you must be a raaaacist," is wearing thin. The label "racist" used to carry some weight, allowing liberals to avoid actually addressing almost any issue, but now because of overuse... it doesn't. Heh, heh.

      As for liberal denials that liberalism has devolved into a socialist welfare state, how much longer can Media Matters attribute all the good stuff to "socialism" and all the bad stuff to "capitalism" without somebody noticing that the American welfare state killed off capitalism a long time ago.

      The only difference I see between American socialism and that of the former USSR, (that second "s" stands for SOCIALIST, bilbo)is that American liberals stereotype their people as the rich and the poor, while the Soviet socialists used the stereotypes, bourgeois and proletariat. No liberal/socialist has a clue regarding the cause of human action, nor exactly what motivates a person to work for a living (and it ain't the taxman.) Instead, liberal/socialists see all people as static, stereotypical economic zombies, to be used as mindless ciphers in government enforced paycheck confiscation and redistribution agendas, a transfer of resources from those who earned them to those who didn't that is supposed to result in "social harmony."

      Marx has already been proven wrong, America's body count is yet to begin. Greedy socialist pigs, meaning America's entire welfare state constituency, are fully committed to using other people lives and money for personal gain and ego enrichment, while freedom loving people are just as determined, (indeed justified if the goal is "equality," as opposed to socialist "equalization" schemes) to keep what they have honestly earned. Sounds like a civil war brewing to me, despite the liberal/socialist claim for the opposite.
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      • Author by congero6189599 (August 07, 2009 6:40 pm ET)
           
        jrrr your rant is proof that those who are protesting the change that is taking place are just a bunch of freithened uninformed people. You can't even articulate what you feel is being taken away from you ,and cover your obvious anger with some diatribe against socialism. This frenzy you work yourself into is all in your mind. Liberalism is a nation state? Thats news to me I thought it was a philosophy! Save us your warped analysis you know nothing of which you speak. We can decide for ourselves what direction we want the country to go and we chose last Nov. with our eyes wide open that we wanted a change from the trickle down Robin Hood in reverse policies of the last 8 yrs. that only saw the rich get richer and poverty increase. Thats right the working man was/is working harder and getting less in return as redistribution has been taking place but only upward. Your ignorance is highlighted by your use of the term stereotype to describe real class distinctions. You throw around the words but you don't seem to understand them ,bourgeois and proletariat are not stereotypes they are specific class distinctions, the point is nothing that is being talked about is socialist, communist or Marxian, your anger is misplaced and distorted by misinformation. Your ignorance is only outdone by your arrogance, and I for one will not be intimidated by the likes of you or others like you.
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      • Author by stoogedude (August 08, 2009 5:21 pm ET)
           
        It's funny that you say the more people throw around the word "racist" do describe conservatives, the less effective the word will be. Let's see, you used the word "socialist"...lets see...9 times in your post to describe liberals. Isn't it safe to say that using the word "socialist" to describe liberals all the time would lose its weight as well? I agree, "racist" is a word thrown around all the time. I reject the notion that anyone who disagrees with Obama is a racist, but I do accept the notion that anyone who calls Obama himself a racist, who denies his American birth despite the overwhelming evidence, who compares him to Hitler or Stalin or Mussolini, who cries that their country is being taken away when it clearly isn't, there is a racist element with all of those people. Obama has been called every label with the suffix "ist", and it is just showing that these people don't really understand these words, they just parrot the words of hate-mongers Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck.
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    • Author by jcalton (August 08, 2009 1:09 am ET)
         
      Most American allies are socialists. Being anti-socialist is somewhat un-American.
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      • Author by magnuum (August 08, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
           
        Lou is a racist. Plain and simple. He projects himself as someone who does not like foreign-born Americans. That included Dr. Obama senior, the president's father from Kenya.

        Lous Bobbs is using his job to divide the USA into white America and no-white. I still don't know how any body would continue to listen to a guy who admittedly refers to himself as a moron.

        Lou is a moron if as a journalist he believes Obama has been using fake birth certificates all his life. In the USA, everything is documented. That measn the moment president Obama wanted to get a driver's licence he must have presented a valid birth certificate. Before that, to be admitted in HS, he must have provided a valid evidence as a citizen. To run for several offices, the law required him to prove his identity. With all these huddles that require proof of place and date of birth, does Lou and his "racist group" think Barack Obama would venture to run for the presidency where he would to encounter lots media scrunity, quiet and fierce?

        Lou get another job and stop polluting the airwaves with hate mongering-you're too oppinated to be a balnace journalist. You really belong to FOX News network where hate mongering is hatched and spread.
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    • Author by mr. d (August 08, 2009 12:58 pm ET)
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      Mr. Dobbs you are a breath of fresh air & only interesting opinion left on CNN. You may be wrong but your right to say it & the subjects you tackle, you are a true voice of the people. How long before the tyrannists shut you down is another story.
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