"Mr. Independent" Dobbs repeatedly smears Obama, progressives as "socialist"
CNN's Lou Dobbs has touted himself as politically "independent," and CNN president Jonathan Klein has reportedly referred to Dobbs' CNN show as "a relatively straight newscast." But echoing others in the conservative media, Dobbs has repeatedly used his radio and CNN programs to attack President Obama and other progressives, claiming or suggesting that they or their policies are "socialist," "fascist" or "un-American."
Dobbs touts himself as "Mr. Independent" on radio and TV
CNN announcer introduces Dobbs as "Mr. Independent." At the beginning of his television show, Dobbs is frequently introduced with: "Here again, Mr. Independent, Lou Dobbs."
Dobbs' CNN website brands him as "Independent."

[From Dobbs' CNN website, accessed 8/6/09]
Dobbs' radio show website refers to Dobbs as "Mr. Independent" and his show as "Independent Nation."

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Dobbs' radio show bio: Dobbs is "a true independent voice ... occupying the vital middle ground between the conservative and liberal voices."
Lou Dobbs is the Independent voice in today's largely liberal mainstream media coverage. And his Independent message is hitting the hearts of American's everywhere.
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He brings a true independent voice to Talk Radio, occupying the vital middle ground between the conservative and liberal voices that dominate much of the segment today. [From Dobbs' radio website, accessed 8/6/09]
CNN's Klein has reportedly called Dobbs' TV show "a relatively straight newscast"
Klein reportedly said that "Dobbs has been doing a relatively straight newscast" since the 2008 election. As Media Matters for America has noted, in an August 1 article headlined, "Lou Dobbs challenges his own network," the Associated Press reported that Klein said that, in the AP's words, since the 2008 elections, "Dobbs has been doing a relatively straight newscast."
Klein reportedly said, "If you watch Lou's show, he's doing more of a straight newscast than he's ever done before." According to an April 26 New York Times article, "Mr. Klein conceded that Mr. Dobbs, who has been an outspoken advocate against illegal immigration, is the most opinionated anchor on CNN 'by a mile.' " (Media Matters documented Klein ignoring that Dobbs is often wrong, advancing falsehoods, as well as distortions, of CNN's other reporting.) The Times further reported that "Mr. Klein also said that the network was trying to adjust the format. 'If you watch Lou's show, he's doing more of a straight newscast than he's ever done before.' "
Klein's claim that Dobbs' radio show is "separate and apart" from his CNN show is undermined by facts -- and Klein himself. As Media Matters has noted, Klein's assertion that Dobbs' radio show is "separate and apart" from his television show is undermined by the fact that Dobbs has used his CNN show to promote his radio birther coverage, and his radio show to promote his CNN birther coverage. Additionally, Dobbs regularly uses his CNN show to promote his radio show, Dobbs' radio syndicator touts his CNN affiliation, and Dobbs frequently hosts CNN colleagues on his radio show. Moreover, Klein himself has said that Dobbs' decisions about his CNN show are "inform[ed]" by his radio show.
Dobbs has compared Obama, progressive policies to "Soviet-style government," "socialism"
Dobbs' onscreen text on CNN asks if "Obama's Healthcare plan" is "class warfare."
From the July 17 edition of Lou Dobbs Tonight:

Dobbs asserted that passing stimulus and energy bills without reading them is reminiscent of "Stalinist or Soviet-style government." Discussing representatives who passed the stimulus and Waxman-Markey bills without reading them, Dobbs said: "We just like to see that -- if there's anything happening in this country right now that doesn't more closely resemble that of a Stalinist or Soviet-style government."
From the June 29 broadcast of United Stations Radio Networks' The Lou Dobbs Show:
CALLER: Here's what I hope that they will do during this recess week. When members of Congress and senators are home, contact them at home -- where their district office, their state office -- and demand that they sign this pledge.
DOBBS: Yeah, I -- you know, I -- good luck getting contact or acknowledgement that they even exist, or that you and I as voters exist. I'll take any one of the above. We appreciate you being here and wish you all the best. It is -- give us that website one more time.
CALLER: Pledgetoread.com.
DOBBS: Absolutely. Pledgetoread.com. And I want to hear from all of the -- I always talk about this audience being so smart. We want to hear from you if you do actually contact one of your congressmen and actually get them to acknowledge your existence, because we just like to see that -- if there's anything happening in this country right now that doesn't more closely resemble that of a Stalinist or Soviet-style government. So let us know if you have anything that would disturb that particular emotion right now.
Dobbs discussed "Pravda" article about "the American descent to Marxism." On June 3, Dobbs falsely suggested an April 27 opinion piece attacking Obama was the product of the Russian newspaper, Pravda, saying: "A recent opinion column in Russia's Pravda said, because of the president's policies, quote, 'the American descent to Marxism is happening with breathtaking speed.' " In fact, the piece, written by blogger Stanislav Mishin, was published on the Russian website, PRAVDA On-line, a separate media outlet that routinely features sensationalistic stories.
From the June 3 edition of Lou Dobbs Tonight:
DOBBS: President Obama under fire tonight from Venezuela's anti-American President Hugo Chavez. Chavez saying President Obama is taking the United States down the road to socialism and saying Obama's handling of General Motors could make him and Cuba's Fidel Castro look relatively conservative. Chavez said, quote, "Hey, Obama has just nationalized nothing more and nothing less than General Motors. Comrade Obama! Fidel, careful or we are going to end up to his right."
A recent opinion column in Russia's Pravda said, because of the president's policies, quote, "the American descent to Marxism is happening with breathtaking speed."
While discussing Obama's stimulus plan, Dobbs stated that "[s]ocialism has arrived in the first three months of this year, folks." Citing an "amazing stat," which he said demonstrated that "when we talk about socialism, we're not just a-woofing, as the saying goes," Dobbs said on his radio show, "For the first time in the history of the United States, the federal government has supplanted sales, property, and income taxes at the state level as the biggest source of money for state and local governments." He later added: "[S]o socialism has arrived in the first three months of this year, folks, and it is -- well, it is what it is, and it's not going to change, I'm afraid, for a little while."
From the May 5 broadcast of The Lou Dobbs Show:
DOBBS: Here's an amazing stat for you: For the first time, when we talk about socialism, we're not just a-woofing, as the saying goes. For the first time in the history of the United States, the federal government has supplanted sales, property, and income taxes at the state level as the biggest source of money for state and local governments.
Let me say that again: more money than sales taxes, property taxes, and income taxes at the state level. There's more money being put into each state in this country by the federal government than any other source of revenue. Is that amazing?
The sales tax had been the number one source of state and local revenue since the mid-1970s. Before that, property taxes had been the primary source. That changed in the first three months of this year -- that early stimulus money, plus conventional federal aid.
By the way, did you spend that stimulus money? Are you putting it aside? Are you saving up for a rainy day? What are you doing with your stimulus money, 'cause Barack Obama wants to know. We've gotta -- we gotta know what's going on with the stimulus money, because this economy is dependent on that stimulus money. Remember that. Nothing happens without stimulus. No stimulus, no economy, no nothing.
But, anyway, so socialism has arrived in the first three months of this year, folks, and it is -- well, it is what it is, and it's not going to change, I'm afraid, for a little while.
Dobbs: Cabinet secretaries are "acting like commissars in the old Soviet Union." On the April 16 broadcast of his radio show, Dobbs said cabinet secretaries "are acting like commissars in the old Soviet Union," adding that "it's time for them to get rolled back" because "[t]his is America, and it's not some fascist state."
Dobbs: Obama's policies are "raising new concerns about what many are calling a socialist revolution in prospect -- some say even a risk of totalitarianism." On the March 31 edition of his CNN show, Dobbs claimed Obama policies are "raising new concerns about what many are calling a socialist revolution in prospect -- some say even a risk of totalitarianism." Dobbs made this assertion while displaying onscreen text reading: "Socialist Revolution":

Dobbs: America is "moving toward a combination of corporate power and political power" that is "disturbingly similar to what we witnessed in Italy in the 1930s." Later on his March 31 CNN show, referring to the Pay for Performance Act, which "would tie pay to performance at companies that have received direct capital investments under the Troubled Asset Relief Program," Dobbs said: "We are moving toward a combination of corporate power and political power that is so disturbingly similar to what we witnessed in Italy in the 1930s, and it's not funny."
Dobbs stated that Venezuela's Hugo Chavez's "little love affair with his fellow socialist Barack Obama didn't last long." On the March 24 broadcast of his radio show, Dobbs said of Chavez, "Guess what? That little love affair with his fellow socialist Barack Obama didn't last long." He later added: "It didn't take long for that little love affair to end, did it? Oh, my goodness."
Contrary to "Independent" branding, Dobbs follows conservative media in advancing smears
Conservatives in media warn of social-fasc-commun-Nazi-McCarthy-Marxism. Since January, Media Matters has documented numerous examples of conservatives in the media warning of socialism, fascism, communism, Nazism, McCarthyism, and Marxism, or using such language to describe President Obama or other Democrats.
Dobbs smears progressive voices as "Orwellian," "fascist," and "un-American"
While claiming Maricopa County, Arizona, Sheriff Joe Arpaio was "being attacked," Dobbs stated that "this feels like either brave new world Orwellian" or "Stalin has secretly been resurrected." On his CNN show on March 13, while claiming that Arpaio was "being attacked by four left-wing congresspeople who have an obvious agenda here," Dobbs concluded: "I swear to you, this feels like either Brave New World Orwellian, or you know, absolutely Joseph Stalin has secretly been resurrected."
From the March 13 edition of Lou Dobbs Tonight:
DOBBS: You know, you're sitting here with a community -- Phoenix -- which is at the heart of Maricopa County, Congressman, as you well know. You represent Phoenix as well as Maricopa County. It's in your district. It's become the kidnapping capital of the country, and the violence is accelerating.
The issue of human smuggling, drug smuggling -- Arizona one of the principal corridors. This sheriff is the most prominent and the most effective local official in the battle against illegal drugs, illegal immigration, trying to bring order, and he's being attacked by four left-wing congresspeople who have an obvious agenda here, and there's not been a peep being made. I mean, this is -- I swear to you, this feels like either Brave New World Orwellian, or you know, absolutely Joseph Stalin has secretly been resurrected.
Dobbs claimed "fascist liberal voices" are "the only sound" on college campuses, said campuses are "a little fascist, really, and a little un-American." On March 13 on CNN, Dobbs interviewed a documentary director on "why it seems extraordinarily liberal, but fascist liberal voices are being allowed as the only sound" on college campuses. In teasing the segment, Dobbs referred to "those so-called university campuses" as "a little fascist, really, and a little un-American."
From the March 11 edition of Lou Dobbs Tonight:
DOBBS: Up next, free speech is being stifled in a place you would expect freedom of expression to be welcomed. We'll be talking with the director of a documentary on, well, those so-called university campuses that are a little fascist, really, and a little un-American.
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DOBBS: Up next, the battle over free speech on our college campuses and why it seems extraordinarily liberal, but fascist liberal voices are being allowed as the only sound on those campuses. I'll be talking with the director of a provocative documentary on this very important topic next.
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DOBBS: Something that you illustrated -- and I can't remember the name of the young man. I believe it was at Cal Poly. I mean, this young man was hounded for absolutely nothing, but putting up a poster of the title of a book, which -- by the way, you did a remarkable job with whatever the title of that bureaucratic moron was, as you were trying to talk with the president of the school. He was hounded for months.
MALONEY: Eighteen months -- 18 months of his life. It had to go to federal court just for hanging a flyer announcing a speaker who was coming to talk about his book.
DOBBS: He recovered the legal fees. He -- I know that. Did he ever get an apology from the institution?
MALONEY: No, he never did. And that was part of the legal settlement. The school never wants to admit that they were wrong. I mean, it's plain to you and me that they were wrong, but --
DOBBS: What is the full name of the school?
MALONEY: That's Cal Poly, California Polytechnic. And it's a public university, so the taxpayers of California ended up footing the bill for his legal fees.
DOBBS: Let me say this to Cal Polytechnic, to the president -- who apparently never would talk with you. I just want to say something to that president.
You, sir, are a coward and a fool, and, as far as I'm concerned, just this side of a fascist. But the cowardly foolishness is the part that really should bother you, because you run a university with impressionable young minds, as you document so well, and minds that are growing and should have a number of voices, a diversity of ideas, as you point out in your terrific documentary on -- in the marketplace of ideas. I mean, how can institutions justify this kind of behavior?















If Lou lived in Texas he would be for Secession.
Lou is beginning to behave like a traped Animal.
If only he knew that it's CNN that will be the Cannible.
Speak truth to power.
Mr. News
But socialism is the great lie. It has been a disaster everytime it has been tried, and it will always be a disaster, ESPECIALLY in "diverse" societies.
You may think that Marxism is great because it ends "class struggle", but what really happens is that while the free-market wealthy are destroyed, the POLITICAL CLASS moves in to assume the role of the wealthy, powerful and privileged! But governments don't create wealth, they consume it. The masses live as a sea of poor slaves to the state, having lost the freedom they once had, while the politico's live it up. Power to the people??? NO! It's POWER TO THE POLITICIANS!
First you mix socialism with marxism, then you mention something about the politicians taking over for the rich. Seems like politicians have already gone there (not all but some) and generally play nice with the rich.
But governments don't create wealth, they consume it. The masses live as a sea of poor slaves to the state, having lost the freedom they once had, while the politico's live it up.
OOH. Sweet statement. Now just replace governments, and politico's with "the wealthy".
Socialism, like communism, are based on Marxist philosophy. Communism seeks to transfer all property and means of production to the state. Socialism is like communism "lite" wherein it does not own all property and means of production, but seeks to heavily control them through confiscatory taxation and regulation.
And yes, in these systems, the political CLASS become the ones of wealth, privilege, power, and gold-plated health insurance. Yeah...that's really helping the people.
All government is, to some extent, socialist, since the government controls certain aspects of resource use and industry in order to protect and provide services for its citizens.
Leftists may think this is a great idea now, but what about when the next "right wing" president takes office with these new powers? One should never give any government this much power.
Export World Leader: Germany (for the last 7 years)(US is third)
Richest Countries: US, Japan, Germany
Leader in Solar Power Technology: Germany
Leader in Machinery Technology: Germany
Leader in % of uninsured in Industrial Nations: US (by a long shot)
Least workers rights in Industrial Nations: US
The list goes on. But the point is: The US is great, but we are falling behind in some areas and we are not taking care of our people like we should. And that is one reason why we need government.
Once the US thrived because we knew our strengths and tried to rectify our weaknesses. We were not afraid of change and of the new. Now we are trying to preserve and resist chance.
P.S. Social security and Medicare are also "socialist", yet most conservatives want it untouched. Does that make sense?
This is a clear double-standard, particularly when you look at how Dan Rather was canned for basing a story on what was "questionable" evidence and documentation, just like Dobbs has done with conspiracy theories like Birthers and North American Union ...
Any info/link you'd like to put up about those near million dollars would be, unexpected.
You might check out the good ole MMfa archives about Obama's birth certificate. It's all backed up.
Sure, you like Obama so much that anything he does is O.K.
But beware!
If you allow changes that run counter to the spirit of the constitution to remain in effect, what happens the next time a "right wing" president is in office with these new privileges? In the end, we lose that much more control over government.
GWB served with hundreds of others. none remember seeing him in uniform at the end of his service. The official documentation is sketchy at best.
The birthers have as legitimate a demand as did the church against Galileo or the flat earthers against Columbus or Magellan.
As far as Dan Rather (not that I cared for him much), he wasn't fired for reporting a false story. He was fired due to the outrage, from the right, that "one" document had not been vetted properly. None of the other information that he reported was ever proved false and Bush has NEVER provided any data to prove that he actually finished his National Guard tour.
Please note: there are a lot of guards, from the same time frame, who never "completed" their service either. The only difference being that none of them ran for president.
They lose money, they get fired. Capitalism at it's finest.
Tell that to Phil Donahue.
n., pl. -gies.
1. Similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar.
I do not care about your word parsing except that I click on articles (not necessarily this one) that have a lot of replies hoping to read different view points.
What I usually find is that when you post something, anything, the article says 100 comments and most of them are your defense's.
Neither does your brain, apparantly....
If these hatemongers don't watch out this country will erupt in violence and they will have none to blame but themselves.
Skeptical about his verifiable birth records? And claiming anything that the government gets involved in is socialism? I think you and I have different understandings of what the media should be doing. They should be debunking birther nonsense and then getting onto the real stories - such as explaining what socialism is instead of throwing it around like some kind of label (such as godless communist was a couple of generations ago).
So you're going to use this to take another racial potshot at me? In two days you've posted two responses to me and both have been race-baiting non sequiturs. What is wrong with you?
Just so others are clear, (Tommy, aka Right On) knows that race issues are very important to me, so he's always desperate to instigate an argument with me over race. It's a mystery why he thinks this race-baiting tactic could ever end well for him.
Tommy, just save it for when race is actually part of the topic.
My birthtime 'guess' is quite subjective, is speculative, includes conjecture -- accurate birthtime provides a certain refinement of view; but regardless, (if guessed wrong), any hour during that day is imbued and instilled with a Mercury - Uranus aspect of the character described in cast 'boilerplate' (or 'conventional platitude') referenced below.
If accurate, it presages, (first, yes, that since about a Sept.2008 onset he is experiencing an acute episode of cognitive distress), a 'nervous breakdown,' which can be verified (or else refuted) soon in accounts of his personal events which happen (or else don't happen) on Aug.22,'09, and (culminating) Sept.23,'09, (+/- margin of error, the next day is his birthday). If he remains on-air (intact) after that, then his crisis abates. As I see it, these are his career-end dates.
Here's the locus of the matter (my emphases added):
At the link those paragraphs include (but I omitted) a reference to the following, (my emphases added). (For astrology students, this cites the progressed Mercury, stationary, opposing Uranus natal and progressed.)
There is also a innate severe instance of the following nature:
Unabridged material at the links offers a fuller sense of the human nature (in Dobbs) being described here.
I totally agree, shaggles.
Some of the most hardcore idealogues I've met have claimed to be independents like O'Reilly. The word has long since been used as a defense for people who spout liberal\conservative talking points but want to be seen as less partiasn or "open-minded".
Remember H. Clinton screeching that dissenters are not unAmerican or traitorous? Why has the opinion on that changed???
p.s. Screeching?
you are a kook, socialist, fascist, nazi, terrorist-muslim sympathizer if you notice the insult.
From Wikipedia:
In 2007, Dobbs repeatedly and falsely claimed that Hispanics were responsible for bringing 7,000 new cases of leprosy to the United States in a three year period. The actual total number of all leprosy cases in the United States in that time frame was on the order of 1/20th of that amount.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Dobbs
Balls on this POTUS and our government!!
"He sounds like an old angry man."
I think it is a true but incomplete observation. At some point, these old guys,
1. realized the country they are in is not the country they grew up in, and,
2. decided to make money off of their realization by fooling similar people.
Living in fear is a horrible feeling. I imagine a Lou Dobbs style neighborhood. Not tush, or plush, but primo, as they say. All the amenities, and then some. I would like to walk the streets, and admire the foliage. How far would I get? Too far, not!
Why kid ourselves? We know, what it is, and deny it. This is not your bedroom! We must act, or lose. The ilk want to own everything. That means they will own you! Socialist, we don't need any stinking socialist. The new bad word may be Capitalism. Rather, Capitalist. The new oligarchy. Who cares about your ethnic, cultural, and religious background. How rich are you?
If they invested in deeds vs. litigation, we would maximize the potential growth, of our world. Taking the lead could be done by Congress. So what, if Lou Dobbs can not afford his solid diamond fireplace. He would be famous, for good deeds.
(message to self: Dream on, Ronin.)
I have one vote. One. The vote is mightier than pen and sword. Our words speak when written, my vote counts when cast.
Living in fear is a horrible feeling. I imagine a Lou Dobbs style neighborhood. Not tush, or plush, but primo, as they say. All the amenities, and then some. I would like to walk the streets, and admire the foliage. How far would I get? Too far, not!
Why kid ourselves? We know, what it is, and deny it. This is not your bedroom! We must act, or lose. The ilk want to own everything. That means they will own you! Socialist, we don't need any stinking socialist. The new bad word may be Capitalism. Rather, Capitalist. The new oligarchy. Who cares about your ethnic, cultural, and religious background. How rich are you?
If they invested in deeds vs. litigation, we would maximize the potential growth, of our world. Taking the lead could be done by Congress. So what, if Lou Dobbs can not afford his solid diamond fireplace. He would be famous, for good deeds.
(message to self: Dream on, Ronin.)
I have one vote. One. The vote is mightier than pen and sword. Our words speak when written, my vote counts when cast.
Doesn't roll off the tongue quite as well, but seems to be more accurate.
but isn't Lou right about the socialism? Our President took
over the banking industry, he took over some of the domestic
car industry, and he wants to take over the health care industry.
According to the dictionary definition of socialism, those
actions fit this definition to a t. Under what drug-induced
coma can you call Dobbs off-base on this one. Government control
of the economy is the bulls-eye of socialism. Our President is
doing better than Chavez, in fact Chavez is envious.
If the smear fits, wear it.
Maybe he should joing Rush Limbach..
Signed,
Been there; done that; fighhting to prevent it in my country.
As for liberal denials that liberalism has devolved into a socialist welfare state, how much longer can Media Matters attribute all the good stuff to "socialism" and all the bad stuff to "capitalism" without somebody noticing that the American welfare state killed off capitalism a long time ago.
The only difference I see between American socialism and that of the former USSR, (that second "s" stands for SOCIALIST, bilbo)is that American liberals stereotype their people as the rich and the poor, while the Soviet socialists used the stereotypes, bourgeois and proletariat. No liberal/socialist has a clue regarding the cause of human action, nor exactly what motivates a person to work for a living (and it ain't the taxman.) Instead, liberal/socialists see all people as static, stereotypical economic zombies, to be used as mindless ciphers in government enforced paycheck confiscation and redistribution agendas, a transfer of resources from those who earned them to those who didn't that is supposed to result in "social harmony."
Marx has already been proven wrong, America's body count is yet to begin. Greedy socialist pigs, meaning America's entire welfare state constituency, are fully committed to using other people lives and money for personal gain and ego enrichment, while freedom loving people are just as determined, (indeed justified if the goal is "equality," as opposed to socialist "equalization" schemes) to keep what they have honestly earned. Sounds like a civil war brewing to me, despite the liberal/socialist claim for the opposite.
Lous Bobbs is using his job to divide the USA into white America and no-white. I still don't know how any body would continue to listen to a guy who admittedly refers to himself as a moron.
Lou is a moron if as a journalist he believes Obama has been using fake birth certificates all his life. In the USA, everything is documented. That measn the moment president Obama wanted to get a driver's licence he must have presented a valid birth certificate. Before that, to be admitted in HS, he must have provided a valid evidence as a citizen. To run for several offices, the law required him to prove his identity. With all these huddles that require proof of place and date of birth, does Lou and his "racist group" think Barack Obama would venture to run for the presidency where he would to encounter lots media scrunity, quiet and fierce?
Lou get another job and stop polluting the airwaves with hate mongering-you're too oppinated to be a balnace journalist. You really belong to FOX News network where hate mongering is hatched and spread.