Fox runs "Abortion: growing ... growing ... gone" fetus graphic during health care segment
SUMMARY: Fox News aired an anti-choice graphic sourced to the American Life League featuring a fetus and the words, "Abortion: growing ... growing ... gone," during a segment asking if "health care reform" will result in federally funded abortions.
During the July 20 edition of America's Newsroom, Fox News aired an anti-choice graphic featuring a fetus and the words, "Abortion: growing ... growing ... gone," during a segment asking if "health care reform" will result in federally funded abortions. Fox News sourced the graphic to the American Life League (ALL), which describes itself as the "largest grassroots Catholic pro-life education organization in the United States." The "growing ... growing ... gone" graphic was used for ALL's 2008 National Pro-Life T-shirt Day.
Co-host Megyn Kelly provided no explanation for Fox News' promotion of the anti-choice graphic.
From the American Life League:
Why couldn't federal funds be used for a legal medical procedure? This is what we should be asking. There's no reason to NOT use federal funds for such a thing.
And, before the wingnuts show up. No "babies are killed" by abortion.
If the "baby" can survive outside of the womb, I'd agree with you, but since they cannot in the case of abortion (performed before the fetus is viable and able to live on its own outside the woman's body), you're wrong as per usual.
The point of an abortion is to abort a non viable fetus from the womb of a mother.
Don't like abortion, don't have one.
Do you celebrate birthdays or conception days in your family? Did you know that there were less abortions in each year of Bill Clinton's presidency than in any year of the Reagan or Bush I administrations? Who would have ever thought that sex education and condom distribution would lead to less pregnancies and in turn, less abortions. Your side will never get that though. The fact is less abortions are performed when policies promoted by the left are at the forefront.
I have a firm policy of only asking one question of a con at a time. They are slippery folk. They will pick and choose which of the questions to address (usually in a sideways fashion) and ignore the most cogent ones.
Here is what I don't get. According to Christian mythology, god will judge all who come before him when they die right? Now, if POV and others are doing what they believe to be god's will, and living a godly life, why worry about people having abortions, or providing abortions. If folks like POV are correct, then they will ascend to heaven, and sit at the right hand of the father. And the rest of us heathens will go to the fiery pit of doom.
Also, whether or not they know, they're pro choice. They choose to not have abortions. While I would also consider myself pro choice, I choose to believe that I would not consider abortion a viable practice for my wife if she were to get pregnant, and I would not have considered it a viable option if I had gotten one of my past girlfriend's pregnant in my earlier years, but I will fight to ensure that a woman can always have that choice, if she so chooses.
What's more, the "babies" will also ascend to heaven.
So please, abort early and often, the Chy-kahga way!
Apparently you think it's OK to abort a baby if you think it's going to look like Al Franken?
I am being completely serious - if you believe that you are living in a nation in which millions of BABIES are MURDERED every year, how can you possibly be going about your life as if nothing is happening? Do you sleep at night? Do you spend your days desperately trying to keep women from using reproductive health services? Are you attempting to disrupt the procedure that you must refer to as "Murder?"
Because honestly, if you are not doing any of those things- if your activism on behalf of unborn "babies" starts and stops with posts on a website, you are far worse than the people you condemn. You are a pious poser, who screams "murder" in between flipping channels or trying to decide which movie to catch this weekend.
But maybe I misjudge- so please, let us know: What are you doing to stop the "murder?"
are alive and will become adults unless they are killed.
If I believed that I lived in a nation in which innocent people were being murdered on a mass scale, I would do something about it other than drop a few lines into a website response page. So what are YOU doing to stop this incredible injustice?
Open up the stoopid spigot.
It's amazing really.
You have to appreciate him, in a way, for being concise and saving people some time going through the comments. Many of the conservative posters here need 10 or 20 posts, sometimes of several paragraphs each, to say "?" or "I don't understand.".
"Reich?"
As in they're weren't sure how to read that one.
Oh yeah, these are legal medical services, and reasonable adults understand that we don't get to monitor every penny of our taxes according to our personal moral or religious beliefs.
I wonder why Fox News didn't use this graphic?
(Oh, yeah; hell would have froze over. Forget I asked)
This is the point I was trying to make up above. Nobody is forcing anyone to get abortions for crying out loud. I wouldn't suggest to anyone that I know to get one. I wouldn't suggest it to my wife if she were to get pregnant (even though we hate kids).
For the people like POV so dead set against abortion, just don't have one, and try to influence the people in your sphere, or your life to not have one (if they're thinking about having one).
Coming on here and saying that you're killing babies just makes me laugh, because that's about the furthest thing from the truth there ever was. Great shock value, but not even remotely true.
whether by her husband or someone that isn't or is assaulted or that suddenly her husband decides that she needs to be pregnant 15 more times, or name your scenario?
To be sure, you can probably bet the bank that she would go get one, even if it were made illegal. So why argue against that right?
I find it hilariously frustrating that some of these Fox-Noise Blondie types would be so willing to work toward their very rights being taken away that were fought for the last 130 years or so by other women (several of which were conservative)?
Of course, no matter what happens... abortion is legal and will remain so.
Lets face it... the Republicans owned all three branches of the government for 5 years from 2001-2006 and could have easily passed laws or amendments to make abortion illegal... they did not... because for them abortion is an issue that they can keep using to get the weak minded to vote them into power and still never do anything about it.
"The War on Choice - The Right-Wing Attack on Women's Rights and How to Fight Back" by Gloria Feldt
For those of you that may be rude about or want to say something derogatory about the book, author, or concept... don't waste your time, as I plan on flagging it immediately!
Is this a baby? Does the morning after pill murder a baby in your view?
You're the one who used the example of someone mourning a miscarriage. If we were talking about forced abortions, you would have a point.
Do you think "barbie" enhances your argument?
Next thing you know, we'll be letting them wear SHOES!!!1!one
Most sane people dont see it that way.
Question 2: Dont comprehend.
What don't you comprehend? You said "3 days" after birth. What makes you think anyone would support killing a 3 day-old baby?
Most here will not acknowledge protecting "babies" at an point until birth, or address the lack of health concerns as you do, so i am glad to see you address those.
Looks like scott j's post however would never consider the things you mentioned. And Easy says abortion NEVER kills a baby, so we know where he stands.
I'm thrilled that you appreciate my specifics, but in my experience my opinion is pretty close to those of other liberals here. I've never seen anyone so much as hint that elective abortion should go all the way to the due date, despite your assertion otherwise.
The problem with "questions" like yours is you're actually NOT looking for an honest answer.
You know d*mn good and well that NO ONE has an abortion AFTER delivery, nor days AFTER delivery, so PLEASE STOP with your pathetic way of trying to make a point!
And since you're so into asking questions, what if you're 11 year old daughter was raped by your uncle and she became pregnant? Are you going to make your young child continue her pregnancy, as a result of a rape by your uncle? Are you going to ask YOUR child to carry YOUR uncle's baby to term?
So I'll ask YOU at what age should abortion be legal?
See the problem is YOU can't comprehend that abortion is a deeply personal INDIVIDUAL/FAMILY decision, period!! Folks don't need YOUR opinion on what medicine to take or what surgery to have , so you can d*mn well bet, they don't need YOUR opinion on abortion!
You don't like abortion, DON'T HAVE ONE!!
Why is it that your view you needs to be the one respected, and not those of others? What gives you the right to preach to anther poster who is asking very valid questions? You are in no position to make life and death decisions for others, and that is exactly what abortion is.
You are so offended that one even mentions abortion after delivery, but that is exactly how a partial birth abortion works....hence the term partial birth.
I dont care what lies you tell yourself to go to sleep at night.
People who can type are literate. People who type just because they can are fools.
Without an answer to that, I eagerly await your clarification for the phrase "valid questions".
LOL I notice your happy little butt didn't bother to answer the question either!
Good grief POV!!! NO ONE has EVER had an abortion AFTER a baby is born! I know that and you should know it. It was a flat out stupid question so I'm not sure why you're trying to defend it or link it to what you call 'partial birth abortion' which is not even a medical term. Everyone knows that killing a 3 day old child is called murder and you will go to prison.
WHY is this sooo freaking hard for you to comprehend?
Someone choosing abortion should have absolutely NOTHING to do with YOU UNLESS it's your wife or girlfriend. It's a personal decision. Get it? Only YOU and YOUR family get to make the decision, NO ONE else!
Try living in the REAL world where families make hard, painful, difficult decisions about life and death EACH and EVERY day!! They don't need MY opinion and they d*mn well don't need yours either.
And POV, really, it's extremely juvenile to harp on the 'old folks' crap. One day, IF you're lucky, you might live to be old too. By them I can only hope you've matured enough to realize how blessed you are to get old.
What you should realize is that the suggestion that anyone would support killing a three day-old baby is incredibly offensive. It's sort of like saying "the only reason you voted against Obama is you want the black race to be put back into slavery". It's just that ridiculously stupid and inflammatory. Do you understand?
Let's examine your logic here. How is it that a 19 year-old can't legally have sex with a 17 year-old, but he could with an 18 year-old? What if it's a few minutes before midnight on the day before her 18th birthday? It's illegal, while a few minutes later it would be legal.
By that logic, sex is illegal completely. No matter where you move the line, there's still a line where there's an hour, a minute, a second's worth of difference. 21st birthday? Same situation. 30th? The line remains.
The same concept applies here. You can go backwards from the second-trimester mark and say "well today it's a legal entity, but yesterday it wasn't?" You can take that all the way back to conception, but it's logically bereft. You can have arbitrary distinctions of time without any questions as to their legitimacy.
Besides, the whole point behind "partial-birth abortion" is that it's a medical concern. It doesn't make any sense to talk about killing a baby after it's born, since any medical issue would have been resolved by then.
It is the dishonesty of many on the pro choice side that is a problem. There is a simple refusal to acknowledge that any abortion takes a life. I know these are touch cases with personal consequences for the families involved. But tough situations do not in and of themselves justify killing a baby. It is really that simple.
Your definition of "life" and "baby" relies on your personal perspective. There's nothing objective there, so there's nothing by which to assert control over everyone. It would be like "my religion says this, so it should be a law that affects all of you". That's not how it works. There simply is no secular argument against abortion. Society has the right to regulate life. You can have your opinion all day long that it's wrong to "kill a baby", but there is no argument that justifies forcing that view on society as a whole.
Analogies work to clarify and simplify issues for most people. Those who have trouble with the abstract get confused by them, thinking the subject has been changed.
Additionally, I inquired above about when exactly you think "conception" is. Conception is a process.
Yeah, she should just dodge them and move on to a new line of BS like you do. Are you a vegetarian, POinty?
"We hold these truths to be self evident, that ALL men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights".
In the case of a mother's health, every effort should be made to save both the mother and the child.
Now, do you believe that all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with these rights? Or do you believe that these rights only belong to the children that were lucky enough to have parents that wanted them?
The cost a woman pays for aborting is a lot more than one can imagine.
The monetary amount that the woman, her family, or the government pays is a mere pittance.
(Good to see you are still visiting the site, even though your posts are very infrequent).
Is this just another way to "get back" at the Democrats? It seems like the mainstream media is often trying to not only punish President Obama, but the Democrats especially, for electing him into office.
Has something like this ever happened on mainstream media before?
Exactly how is it right for the religious beliefs of some to be used to create laws that affect all?
I am so sick of anti-choicers trying to shove their opinions/beliefs onto women - including perfect strangers! It is not your decision to turn women into incubators against their will. Apparently this can't be said enough: Abortion is a legal medical procedure between a woman and her doctor. It is her decision (and her partner if she chooses) to carry a pregnancy to term or not. Pay more attention to how you live your live and stop trying to control other people! How many babies have you adopted? What are you doing to help real babies once they are born?