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July 03, 2009 6:42 pm ET

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SUMMARY: A Fox Nation headline asked, "Obama Busted Stacking Town Hall ... What If Bush Had?" But the same day on Fox News, Chris Wallace stated, "I know in the Bush administration, George W. Bush, they had a lot of these town hall meetings, and they chose all the people there."

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On July 3, FoxNation.com features the headline "Obama Busted Stacking Town Hall ... What If Bush Had?" But the suggestion that Bush did not screen town hall audiences or questions was refuted by Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace, who said on the July 3 edition of Fox & Friends that "town hall meetings ... have always been something of an artifice, because I know in the Bush administration, George W. Bush, they had a lot of these town hall meetings, and they chose all the people there. So everybody has always tried to get a home-court advantage." Indeed, a March 12, 2005, Washington Post article on Bush's 2005 Social Security town hall events reported, "The carefully screened panelists [at a town hall in Memphis] spoke admiringly about Bush, his ideas, his 'bold' leadership on Social Security. If the presentations sound well rehearsed, it's because they often are. The guests at these 'Oprah'-style conversations trumpet the very points Bush wants to make."

In the wake of an October 13, 2005, "staged" public video conference Bush held with several soldiers in Iraq, an October 15, 2005, Washington Post article on that event called it "one of the stranger and most awkwardly staged publicity events of the Bush presidency." The article further reported:

Before they [Bush and the soldiers] spoke, Allison Barber, a mid-level Pentagon official, helped coach the troops on who would be asked what by Bush. Afterward, according to Reuters, she told reporters that "we knew that the president was going to ask about security, coalition and training" but not the specific questions.

This not a new technique for Bush; his White House has perfected the public relations strategy of holding scripted events featuring the president's supporters. During the first part of the year, Bush traveled the country to discuss his Social Security plan, while aides stacked the audience with Republicans and tutored participants in these town hall events on what to say.

From the March 12, 2005, Washington Post article titled "Social Security: On With the Show":

The few dissenting voices in the Cannon Center for the Performing Arts were quickly silenced or escorted out by security. One woman with a soft voice but firm opposition to Bush was asked to leave, even though her protests were barely audible beyond her section in the back corner of the auditorium. The carefully screened panelists spoke admiringly about Bush, his ideas, his "bold" leadership on Social Security.

If the presentations sound well rehearsed, it's because they often are. The guests at these "Oprah"-style conversations trumpet the very points Bush wants to make. Seniors on stage express confidence that Bush's plan to create private investment accounts would not eat into promised benefits, and the granddaughter of one spoke hopefully on Friday of a richer retirement if the president prevails.

These meticulously staged "conversations on Social Security," as they are called, replicate a strategy that Bush used to great effect on the campaign trail.

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The White House follows a practiced formula for each of the meetings. First it picks a state in which generally it can pressure a lawmaker or two, and then it lines up panelists who will sing the praises of the president's plan. Finally, it loads the audience with Republicans and other supporters.

To help make its case, the White House recruits people such as Mark Darr, 31, an insurance agent from Benton, Ark., who joined the president on stage at a forum in Little Rock last month. In a subsequent interview, Darr said he believes he was chosen because he went to college with one son of Republican Gov. Mike Huckabee and provided insurance for another.

After the governor's office called, Darr said, he began receiving one call after another from the White House, quizzing him on his thoughts on Social Security and his family history, just as they did all the other candidates. "I'm sure they wanted to ... make sure they weren't going to embarrass the president," Darr said.

From FoxNation.com:

From the July 3 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

DAVE RIGGS (guest co-host): Well, it's good to see this, some in the press corps firing back. But is this unprecedented, though, in terms of the pre-packaged presidency that we're seeing now? You mentioned that all presidents do this, but this is something in itself. I mean, we haven't seen anything to this -- this much packaging before, have we?

WALLACE: Well, yeah, as far as the town hall meetings, yes. I mean, there have been -- those have always been something of an artifice, because I know in the Bush administration, George W. Bush, they had a lot of these town hall meetings, and they chose all the people there. So everybody has always tried to get a home-court advantage.

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    • Author by John Paradox (July 03, 2009 7:31 pm ET)
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      Faux response:
      LALALALALAL I can't hear you LALALALALALA

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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (July 03, 2009 8:50 pm ET)
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        Well, Chris Wallace works for that vile, far-left hate machine... oh, wait. Never mind.
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    • Author by jbraskin4786 (July 03, 2009 8:57 pm ET)
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      They'll probably say that Chris is trying to be like his dad....
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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (July 04, 2009 8:56 am ET)
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      Don't you just hate it when one of the Fox Noise bozo's, expect the person being interviewed to agree with them and he doesn't ?

      By the way Chris, you better not let the truth slip out again, you may be looking for a job.

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    • Author by wesley (July 04, 2009 9:37 am ET)
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      This is a nice job by mmfa of putting out some perspective and truth concerning town hall meetings and the way it is reported by FOX and others.

      However, lets not lose sight of the fact that stacking town hall type meetings and portraying them as opportunities for individual citizens to voice their opinions...is dead wrong.

      It was wrong for Pres.Bush and it's wrong for Pres.Obama. Precedent does not make it appropriate to mimic bad practices.
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      • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (July 04, 2009 11:42 am ET)
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        However, lets not lose sight of the fact that stacking town hall type meetings and portraying them as opportunities for individual citizens to voice their opinions...is dead wrong.


        So of course you were in the forefront of those denouncing Bush's practice of packing"town-hall" meetings with his sycopha--oh, sorry. You weren't. You smiled along like all the other Shrub fanbots. Again, sorry. My bad...
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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (July 04, 2009 2:46 pm ET)
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          But Wesley can collect his WingnutBuck® for another valiant attempt at trying to divert attention from the subject.
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          • Author by wesley (July 04, 2009 2:51 pm ET)
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            Col...as you know well...you can only divert the attention of those with very short attention spans or with IQ's at 1/4 of the Mendoza line.
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            • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (July 04, 2009 4:23 pm ET)
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              Absolutely right, Wesley. I didn't say you didn't distract yourself, just that you only tried to distract other people.

              Happy Independence day.
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        • Author by center-right (July 04, 2009 4:04 pm ET)
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          So you totally ignore where Wes said it was wrong for Bush as well?
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          • Author by LuvLuLu (July 06, 2009 2:43 pm ET)
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            No, he commented upon the hypocrisy of Wesley. He commented upon the false equivalence argument.
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      • Author by LuvLuLu (July 04, 2009 7:27 pm ET)
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        Okay, Wesley, what was the topic here? Did MMfA ever come close to saying that both sides didn't participate to some extent in this behavior? Nope. So why did you bring it up? To distract us from the point being raised here, that even a FoxNews commentator debunked the FoxNation headline!

        Obama has never done anything as extreme as what Bush did.

        And individual citizens did get to voice their opinions in Obama's town halls! He had representative sample questions. Bush would get representative supporters to ask questions based upon prearranged topics, or would let people know what those prearranged subjects would be.

        It is normal, and expected, and acceptable, for some preplanning to go into events like this. Chaos and mayhem are not good things, after all. It's not a bad practice to help organize events like this. It is a bad practice to do what Bush did.

        There you go with your false equivalency argument again. THAT is a bad practice.
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        • Author by renato (July 05, 2009 5:07 am ET)
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          I found Wesley's comment quite reasonable and fair. It was wrong when Bush did it, it's wrong for Obama to do it.

          I'd hate to think this place is turning into another DKOS.
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          • Author by jpskent (July 05, 2009 6:02 am ET)
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            Very true, if I wanted to listen to who people won't countenance criticism of their own political figures, and can only cry and scream about how wrong it is I'd be watching Fox News. I think the real shocking thing here (because lets face it we all know Fox isn't a news station) is that a Fox "reporter" (Wallace) is actually more balanced and willing to provide non-partisan context than some of the people above. It would be really nice (if a little unrealistic of me to ask for) if we could have real "Fair and Balanced" comments here and on Fox.
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            • Author by mary59 (July 06, 2009 5:46 pm ET)
                 
              Actually, there aren't any shrill comments "above." There are reasonable and factual assessments of the situation, if you ignore the false equivalency stuff. We all should know that Obama fields questions from many points of view.
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          • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (July 05, 2009 11:38 am ET)
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            But Obama didn't do it. Bush wouldn't let people who disagreed with him (or rode in cars with bumper stickers disagreeing with him) into the room to even attend the "town halls," much less participate in them. Obama takes their questions and answers them. Not even remotely the same thing.

            But thanks for playing. You failed, but thanks anyway. The gratuitous swipe at Daily Kos was a swing and a miss, also.
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          • Author by LuvLuLu (July 06, 2009 2:46 pm ET)
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            Even a FoxNews commentator debunked the FoxNation headline.

            That's the topic here. But what did Wesley try to turn it into? A false equivalency argument.

            If Obama did it, it would be wrong. But Obama hasn't done it. What Obama did was totally reasonable.
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    • Author by MikeW67 (July 04, 2009 4:32 pm ET)
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      Wallace gets what he played for by going to work there. Bill Clinton once hammered him for his wingnut bias, right on air!
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    • Author by shaggles (July 05, 2009 11:21 am ET)
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      I wonder if WaPo will write anything about this? They we're almost praising Bush for his staged town halls.
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (July 05, 2009 11:40 am ET)
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        Someone will probably write about it. The question is whether it will get in the paper or on the web site.
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    • Author by jcalton (July 05, 2009 3:26 pm ET)
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      For virtually the first 3 years of his presidency, Bush gave all of his speeches in front of troops. Even the non-military ones. He was afraid to speak anywhere else.
      The rigged town halls only came later.
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