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Media assault on Obama's character: He "lied" and has "broken so many promises"

March 04, 2009 10:20 pm ET

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SUMMARY: Many media conservatives have recently embraced and promoted the accusation, almost in unison, that President Obama has "lied" or broken promises. In many cases, these accusations are based on distortions of comments he has made or misrepresentations of campaign pledges.

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In recent weeks, many media conservatives have launched attacks on President Obama, claiming, for instance, that he "lied" and accusing him of having, in the words of The Washington Times, "broken so many promises during the first month-and-a-half of his presidency that it is hard to keep track." Following his February 24 address to a joint session of Congress, some in the media singled out Obama's comment that he doesn't "believe in bigger government" to accuse him of dishonesty, lying, and even in one case of committing "a huge, brazen, audacious, demonstrably outrageous lie." In fact, in the speech Obama said that, while he does not believe in "big government," a strategy on the scale he is proposing is necessary in the current economic situation. Moreover, many in the media have falsely claimed that Obama "promised no earmarks" in spending bills during his administration and that he has since broken that pledge. In fact, Obama consistently said during the campaign that he intends to "clean up" the process in an effort to curb spending on earmarks, not eliminate the process entirely.

During his February 24 address to a joint session of Congress, President Obama spoke to the necessity of passing the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act to improve the economy and commented that he wanted the stimulus bill passed "not because I believe in bigger government -- I don't -- not because I'm not mindful of the massive debt we've inherited -- I am."

In the days following the speech, media figures have contrasted that comment -- that "I don't" believe in bigger government -- in isolation with the cost of Obama's proposals to say that Obama "lied," that he committed a "the biggest whopper of all" and that his "rhetoric does not match with his policies." But, as is clear from the speech, Obama was taking the position that that failure to act on the scale he is proposing "would have cost more jobs and caused more hardships" and "would have worsened our long-term deficit by assuring weak economic growth for years."

From Obama's February 24 speech:

As soon as I took office, I asked this Congress to send me a recovery plan by Presidents Day that would put people back to work and put money in their pockets, not because I believe in bigger government -- I don't -- not because I'm not mindful of the massive debt we've inherited -- I am.

I called for action because the failure to do so would have cost more jobs and caused more hardships. In fact, a failure to act would have worsened our long-term deficit by assuring weak economic growth for years. And that's why I pushed for quick action.

And tonight I am grateful that this Congress delivered and pleased to say that the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act is now law.

Over -- over the next two years, this plan will save or create 3.5 million jobs. More than 90 percent of these jobs will be in the private sector, jobs rebuilding our roads and bridges, constructing wind turbines and solar panels, laying broadband and expanding mass transit.

Because of this plan, there are teachers who can now keep their jobs and educate our kids. Health care professionals can continue caring for our sick. There are 57 police officers who are still on the streets of Minneapolis, [Minnesota] tonight because this plan prevented the layoffs their department was about to make.

Because of this plan, 95 percent of working households in America will receive a tax cut, a tax cut that you will see in your paychecks beginning on April 1.

Because of this plan, families who are struggling to pay tuition costs will receive a $2,500 tax credit for all four years of college.

And Americans -- and Americans who have lost their jobs in this recession will be able to receive extended unemployment benefits and continued health care coverage to help them weather this storm. Now I know there are some in this chamber and watching at home who are skeptical of whether this plan will work, and I understand that skepticism.

According to a February 19 New York Times article, Obama's proposed budget outline is "$2.7 trillion deeper in the red over the next decade than it would otherwise appear, according to administration officials" due to new accounting rules that include in the Office of Management and Budget's calculations "spending on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Medicare reimbursements to physicians and the cost of disaster responses."

Examples of media figures citing Obama's statement that he doesn't "believe in bigger government" as an example of dishonesty include:

  • In his March 3 Washington Times column, headlined "Obama Lied; The Economy Died," Tony Blankley asserted: "President Obama told a whopper last week when he claimed he was not for bigger government." He went on to say: 'This he asserted though the budget he proposed the next day asks for federal spending as 28 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), higher by at least 6 percent than any time since World War II."
  • In a February 26 Cleveland Plain Dealer column, Kevin O'Brien wrote: "President Barack Obama doesn't believe in big government. He said so Tuesday night. The statement was one of two things. Best case: It was a huge, brazen, audacious, demonstrably outrageous lie. Worst case: It was testimony to a sincere belief that even the all-pervasive, all-powerful federal government he envisions doesn't qualify as 'big.'
  • During the March 1 edition of CNN's State of the Union, The Weekly Standard's Stephen Hayes suggested that Obama's comment that he didn't like bigger government should have been "corrected," adding: "I mean, we have seen nothing but big government for five weeks, and this is the kind of line that, had President George W. Bush uttered it a year ago or two years ago, we would have seen front-page, above-the-fold analyses, saying, you know, 'President's rhetoric does not match with his policies.' And I've been a little surprised about that."
  • In a column published in the March 9 Weekly Standard, editor Fred Barnes cited the purported disparity between Obama's comment and his proposals in accusing him of "liv[ing] in a world of political make-believe in which everything from reconciling conflicting interests to paying for costly programs is easy":

But there's a problem. Candidates don't have to deal with reality. They talk about the wonderful things they can accomplish as if advocating them is the same as achieving them. They live in a world of political make-believe in which everything from reconciling conflicting interests to paying for costly programs is easy.

That's the world Obama continues to inhabit. Like a candidate, he's a quick-change artist, constantly switching roles. Twice last week, he insisted he doesn't favor "big government." Then he proposed a budget that would vastly expand the size and reach of the federal government, add $600 billion to the deficit, and produce a one-year shortfall of $1.2 trillion (or more). This prompted House Republican leader John Boehner to proclaim, quite accurately, that the "era of big government is back."

  • In his February 28 Newsweek column, George Will mocked Obama's campaign slogan and wrote: "Addressing Congress last week, the president said he is strengthening government 'not because I believe in bigger government -- I don't.' Chant it, everybody: Yes you do."
  • A March 3 FoxNews.com Fox Forum blog post by Phil Kerpen, director of policy for Americans for Prosperity, listed this comment as "Promise #1" to be broken and asserted "it's the biggest whopper of all."

Media figures have also broadly accused President Obama of having lied or of breaking a promise by stating that he would sign an omnibus appropriations bill that contains earmarks when he had previously "promised no earmarks." However, as Media Matters noted, Obama consistently said while campaigning that he intends to "clean up" the process in an effort to curb spending on earmarks, not eliminate them entirely.

While Sen. John McCain repeatedly said during the presidential debates that he would "veto every earmark pork-barrel bill" if elected, Obama said in the first debate that "the earmarks process has been abused" and said he had "suspended any requests for my home state ... until we cleaned it up." During the second presidential debate, Obama said McCain's criticism of earmarks was "important," but that he wanted "to go line by line through every item in the federal budget and eliminate programs that don't work and make sure that those that do work, work better and cheaper." And in the third presidential debate, Obama said: "There's no doubt that the system needs reform and there are a lot of screwy things that we end up spending money on, and they need to be eliminated. But it's not going to solve the problem."

Similarly, in May 2008, Obama issued a statement that "the entire earmarks process needs to be re-examined and reformed." The statement said:

I also have championed greater disclosure requirements for earmarks to ensure that the public knows which member of Congress is sponsoring an earmark.

However, even with all of these reforms, I have come to believe that the system is broken. We can no longer accept a process that doles out earmarks based on a member of Congress' seniority, rather than the merit of the project. We can no longer accept an earmarks process that has become so complicated to navigate that a municipality or non-profit group has to hire high-priced D.C. lobbyists to do it. And we can no longer accept an earmarks process in which many of the projects being funded fail to address the real needs of our country.

The entire earmarks process needs to be re-examined and reformed. For that reason, I will be supporting Senator DeMint's amendment and will not be requesting earmarks this year for Illinois. Over the next year, I hope to work with my colleagues, both Democratic and Republican, to improve the earmarks process."

But in spite of Obama's campaign statements, media outlets and figures have suggested he has broken "a campaign promise" about earmarks by stating that he would sign the omnibus appropriations bill:

  • A March 4 Washington Times editorial claimed "President Obama has broken so many promises during the first month-and-a-half of his presidency that it is hard to keep track. ... Last October Mr. Obama promised a net cut in government. He promised no earmarks."
  • On the March 3 edition of CNN's Campbell Brown: No Bias, No Bull, anchor Campbell Brown said, when referring to the omnibus bill "President Obama made a campaign promise to put Washington on a pork-free diet. No more spending on earmark projects he vowed. But they just can't help themselves. We're going to tell you who's spending how much of your money on their pet projects." Later, she continued: "President Obama keeps saying he is an anti-earmark crusader. But watch out, a monster spending bill working its way through Congress contains some 8,500 earmarks worth more than $7 billion."
  • On the February 26 edition of Fox News' Hannity, Fox News anchor Kimberly Guilfoyle suggested Obama was engaging in "two-faced politics" and "trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the American people" because "[h]e said that he wasn't going to do this. We elected him because he said he was going to change things."
  • On the March 3 edition of Sean Hannity's radio show, Hannity asserted that "we have a president that has lied to us. ... A president that promised to eliminate earmarks. And you know what? This is a president that is far more radical than anybody ever dreamed. You bet -- I'm angry."

Further, Washington Times chief political correspondent Donald Lambro misrepresented Obama's February 24 address to Congress to suggest he lied in that address regarding earmarks. In his March 2 column, Lambro wrote, "Nine thousand pork barrel earmarks were buried in the $410 billion omnibus budget that passed the House last week," and added that "President Obama told Congress the day before it passed that he was happy it didn't contain any earmarks, eliciting gales of laughter from the Republican side of the chamber who knew better." But as Media Matters for America noted, Lambro's claim that Obama made a false statement about earmarks is itself false. Obama was not referring to the omnibus spending bill, as Lambro claimed, but to the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act when he said the bill did not contain any earmarks.

From the February 26 edition of Fox News' Hannity:

HANNITY: Nine thousand earmarks. Now, I don't think that is the big spending we've got to worry about; I believe it's entitlement spending. How do -- and Republicans, by the way, are just as guilty, Kimberly. They're 40 percent of the earmarks.

GUILFOYLE: Forty percent, to the Democrats' 60 percent. And I'm with John McCain on this one, because I think this is two-faced politics. Didn't Obama say that he was not going to do this -- that there wouldn't be pork? But now it's like, back-doored in in an area that they normally don't scrutinize, and trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the American people. And it's got to stop.

JUAN WILLIAMS (Fox News political contributor): Wait a second. How is it pulling wool over anybody's eyes? We all know it's there.

GUILFOYLE: It shouldn't be there.

WILLIAMS: Well, that's another point.

GUILFOYLE: He said that he wasn't going to do this.

WILLIAMS: No, no. But this is not his --

GUILFOYLE: We elected him because he said he was going to change things.

From the March 3 edition of CNN's Campbell Brown: No Bias, No Bull:

BROWN: President Obama made a campaign promise to put Washington on a pork-free diet. No more spending on earmark projects, he vowed. But they just can't help themselves. We're going to tell you who's spending how much of your money on their pet projects.

And tonight on Larry King Live: Tavis Smiley, live from his town hall in Philadelphia.

[...]

BROWN: President Obama keeps saying he is an anti-earmark crusader. But watch out: A monster spending bill working its way through Congress contains some 8,500 earmarks worth more than $7 billion. And guess who is leading the fight against them? No, not the president but, rather, Senator John McCain. When it comes to the top earmark offenders, McCain's more than happy to get specific, and he did just that when senior correspondent Joe Johns caught up with him today on Capitol Hill -- Joe.

From the March 1 edition of CNN's State of the Union:

HOWARD KURTZ (host): And I wonder, Steve Hayes -- Steve Hayes, if you think the media overhyped this speech at all, because this whole drumbeat about, "Well, he's got to be optimistic, but he can't appear to be out of touch."

HAYES: Right, right. I think there's a lot of that, and there's some truth to what he said about the chatter in Washington. What struck me about the speech, though, is one line that he didn't really get corrected on, and it's his line that he's not a believer in big government.

I mean, we have seen nothing but big government for five weeks, and this is the kind of line that, had President George W. Bush uttered it a year ago or two years ago, we would have seen front-page, above-the-fold analyses, saying, you know, "President's rhetoric does not match with his policies." And I've been a little surprised about that.

KURTZ: We'll come back to the policies.

From the March 3 edition of ABC Radio Networks' The Sean Hannity Show:

HANNITY: You know something? I am angry. You know what I'm angry about? Because we have a president that has lied to us. A president that puts tax cheats in office. A president that tells us he's not going to have lobbyists in office. We have a president that says on and on again that he's gonna, "Oh, every single dollar, I'm going to go over it" -- he's lied to us about that. A president that promised to eliminate earmarks. And you know what? This is a president that is far more radical than anybody ever dreamed. You bet -- I'm angry.

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    • Author by zamfir273114 (March 04, 2009 10:52 pm ET)
         

      So true.  What's with putting those tax-cheats in office?  Or the lobbyists?  And I thought Obama was against big government, and bills that contain pork?  I can see he has already bowed down to AIPAC pressure too.  Nice.  Change! Hope!

      LOL.  

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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (March 04, 2009 11:16 pm ET)
           

        I am only left with Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow to trust and have the courage to expose the obfustation machine. I was totally turned off by Chris Mathews yesterday when he let Tom Delay walk away with outright lies that Obama caused the economic downturn stating everything was fine under Bush. Mathews just sat there licking DeLay like a cute dog. And he calls his show " Hardball " ??? If you choose to blindly follow what the media tells you without listening to opposing views it is your loss, and if you vote that way, we all lose.

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        • Author by thejbomb65 (March 05, 2009 9:29 am ET)
             

          i think matthews backed off because of that "oh god" thing with jindal so he is playing nice now.

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          • Author by wolf kotenberg (March 05, 2009 12:04 pm ET)
               

            so it is not " Hardball" anymore.

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            • Author by thejbomb65 (March 05, 2009 12:49 pm ET)
                 

              give him a couple months. actually last night he got a bit angry it was kinda fun to watch.

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        • Author by thejbomb65 (March 05, 2009 9:34 am ET)
             

          my two favorite shows, keith because he is funny beyond belief, rachel because she is serious and can be just as funny at the same time, and can trap people with their own words. like tues night when she had that one guy who fumbled over himself

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          • Author by thejbomb65 (March 05, 2009 12:49 pm ET)
               

            and while they are both funny to watch they do make a compelling point. after which i look into what they have talked about and see if they are right or not

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      • Author by roundhouse (March 05, 2009 12:13 am ET)
           

        Good for you! You have been assimilated! Congratulations and best of luck in trying to be taken seriously in sober political discussion.

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      • Author by TJ_rex (March 05, 2009 12:47 am ET)
           

        It's laughable when a Republican points out the misdeeds of another person although on the other hand it takes one to know one. I'm beginning to think that Conservatives actually share a brain. They keep babbling on about the same old tired talking points that have made them irrelevant. They need to be spoon fed facts and then they still don't get it.

        Here are a few points for the poor right tilting person. First, to "put someone in office" you have to elect them.  You 'appoint' a cabinet member. Second, if you can, read Obama's ethics guidelines on lobbyists. Third, the Republicans have by far created a larger and unfortunately more dysfunctional government than Obama ever could. Forth, pork or earmarks or whatever you want to call it is sometimes just a way to fund a bill. In other words there is good pork and bad pork and my friend I think you got ahold of some bad Republican pork. Soooooo-weee

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        • Author by foghornleghorn (March 05, 2009 11:23 am ET)
             

          I'm beginning to think that Conservatives actually share a brain

          They are the Borg.  Resistance is futile.

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        • Author by Sara Bellum (March 06, 2009 12:20 pm ET)
             

          one mans pork is another mans prime rib :)

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      • Author by thejbomb65 (March 05, 2009 9:33 am ET)
           

        well lets look at that for a second. i think he has maybe what 3 or 4 lobbyists in his administration. and they had to jump through alot of hoops to get their waivers. 3 or 4 in an administration that comprises oh lets say 100-200 for good measure even though its less than that im sure. thats still say.....maybe 5 percent of the administration? i think thats a pretty darn good ratio there.

        and he didn't promise to end earmarks, he promised to take them back to the clinton levels.

        and he wouldn't need to help out aig again......were it not for the trouble they got themsevles into and didn't bother to throttle back because no one thought to try and regulate what was going on.

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (March 04, 2009 11:01 pm ET)
         
      just because the media said so, doesn't mean it is. Obama himself said he did not know the true extent of the economic disaster the previous administration left behind. Weare also finding out the constitution was being dismantled.
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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (March 04, 2009 11:25 pm ET)
         

      Talk about lying,every time SEANNIE BOY opens his mouth about DEMOCRATS AND LIBERALS, he's lying.

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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (March 04, 2009 11:36 pm ET)
           
        yeah, they all seemingly are starting to exhibit mental problems sadly believing what they say. Maybe the fat man of Florida, the new republican leader , is passing around an assortment of his stash..
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      • Author by vgranucci2016 (March 05, 2009 1:10 am ET)
           

        You could have stopped after mouth and been just as correct.

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        • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (March 05, 2009 12:11 pm ET)
             

          I may be wrong, but I believe that in their warped minds they just cant believe that they lost in 08,that their far right wing ideas were rejected by the AMERICAN PEOPLE.They are trying to come up with a stratgey to come back and so far its been the same old s--t.

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    • Author by truth2tell (March 04, 2009 11:42 pm ET)
         

      We could put a big dent in the unemployment problem if the right-wing media was forced to hire fact-checkers.

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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (March 04, 2009 11:46 pm ET)
           

        ratings would plummet.

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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (March 05, 2009 1:15 am ET)
             

          Meh, this ain't nothing. I got my Human Events/AnnCoulter email today, and skimmed over the comments. In a Coulter "article" about Keith Olbermann's college years (?) the comments were mostly about the baby-killer, socialist, felon, terrorist,Muslim who is apparently our current president. And lots of keen insight about the current economy being a result of the past 2 months of failed leadership.

          The mainstream media is considered liberal by the crazy & loud 15 or 20% who look to Rush Limbaugh for leadership.And they're pretty f***ing crazy & loud.

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          • Author by wolf kotenberg (March 05, 2009 12:07 pm ET)
               

            some of that sounds exactly like what Tom DeLay said to mathews.

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        • Author by captfoster2 (March 05, 2009 1:49 am ET)
             

          Truth2tell said "We could put a big dent in the unemployment problem if the right-wing media was forced to hire fact-checkers."

          wolfkotenberg said in reply "ratings would plummet."

          I say to that "Actually... the unemployment rate would go up again... as the rightwing corporate owned media would have no reason to be on TV anymore, so rating wouldn't be an issue!"

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          • Author by truth2tell (March 05, 2009 1:39 pm ET)
               

            You are probably right.  It's a zero-sum game.  Kind of like adding the IQs of Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush, Sean Hannity and the proponents of unconditional Limbaugh love who come here to get their asses kicked from one end of the site to the other.

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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (March 05, 2009 2:54 pm ET)
             

          Nah...  RW'ers would still tune it, and just complain about those "liberal fact chekcers" and (probably) a lot more liberals would tune in to see Hannity, O'Rielly and Beck get schooled every night.  I'd actually rather watch THAT over Olbermann and Maddow.  (Sorry Keith. Sorry Racheal.  You've both gotta admit it though - that WOULD make for some pretty darned entertaining television!)

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          • Author by thejbomb65 (March 05, 2009 3:50 pm ET)
               

            at least keith and rachel do not demand supplication before their thrones and golden mics

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      • Author by LisaLV711 (March 05, 2009 12:49 am ET)
           

        These media misfits know what the truth is. They can't over the fact that 1) Obama won the presidency, despite all their efforts to discredit him, 2) he is the first candidate that has run for any office, much less the presidency, who has kept their campaign promise, and 3) who is honest. Rather than do serious investigative reporting, they use talking points.

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        • Author by historygeek001 (March 05, 2009 11:47 am ET)
             

          I think lots of Republican sheeple WANT to believe horrible things about Obama, so they will listen and accept them without examining what they hear because that is easier than actually thinking for themselves.

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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (March 05, 2009 3:00 pm ET)
               

            That's been my experience.  Somehow in just 7 weeks they've convinced themselves he's BAD, and are as sure of that conclusion as [those of us with brains] are that Bush was BAD.  Difference is, we have eight years of actual EVIDENCE, while they have just 7 weeks of listeneing to the Mt. Rushmore of RW Propaganda. (And that woudl be: Limbaugh, O'Rielly, Hannity & Beck.) 

            The one saving grace is that these people tend to like RESULTS.  (It's a simple substitute for analysis.)  If the DOW is back to 10K by 2012, Obama will know exactly how to drive that point home, in a way that Al Gore was really never able to.  (Obama's far too shrewd to ever be caught in an "invented the internet" sound bite.)  (I know, I know!  But you know what I mean!)

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    • Author by captfoster2 (March 05, 2009 1:45 am ET)
         

      So.... I guess all that demand for compliance and respect to the president and the office he works in during a time of war and unrest only matters when its a Republican who is the president and in the office....

      Okay corporate owned media.....

      Got it!

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    • Author by LisaLV711 (March 05, 2009 1:55 am ET)
         

      President Obama has been in office for five weeks and already the media can find not one single POSITIVE thing he has done or said. This is exactly how they treated him during the campaign. While he had to distance himself from Rev. Wright because of what Rev. Wright said, yet John McCain didn't have to distance himself from Sarah Palin! As a matter of fact, he sacrificed his last chance for the presidency to get her. What Rev. Wright said was factual. He was paraphrasing the former Ambassador of Iraq, Edward Peck who was on Hannity & Colmes talking about America's relationship with the Middle East. It was factual information. That's the part that Fox wouldn't broadcast. When Sarah started spewing lies and later while campaigning, they called it "exciting the base." Well excited the base so much that Senator Obama had to have extra secret service protection for he and his family. Oh, but Rev. Wright is a racist? Then that must Sarah Palin is a terrorist!

      I was hoping that the media would lighten up and find some positive things to say about President Obama's progress thus far. Instead, as usual, with the exception of Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow, are now trying discredit his presidency. He's trying to fix the mess that Bush got us into and he has repeated time after time that it wouldn't be easy and that it's going to take long time to get out of. No, this isn't about his presidency. It's about big business and the filthy rich. While President Obama is trying to FIX this mess, they find it constructive to constantly and continuously discredit his efforts! That's like blaming the courts because YOU committed a crime!

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    • Author by clams casino (March 05, 2009 3:45 am ET)
         

      God, this is infuriating. Dubya has a list of lies a mile long and nobody in the media ever dared use the "L" word for his entire reign, but Obama is in office for a month and suddenly everything he says is a "lie"? The bias couldn't be anymore transparent.

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    • Author by princeofwheels (March 05, 2009 4:46 am ET)
         
      We have hit a new high in the world of FUNNY. Seannie the SissyBoy calling the President a liar. I don't care who you are and what affiliation you have, that is too FUNNY. And why get upset over the liars calling people liars.. the Dems just have to vote for what they believe. ELECTIONS MATTER. Let the Cons keep running for the 2010 elections. It keeps their little minds busy.
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    • Author by chucko (March 05, 2009 4:56 am ET)
         

      Great reporting but MMFA but their bias here is revealed in the fact that they don't acknowledge that the Obama administration did nothing to get Congress to cut down on the number and spending of those 8 or 9,000 earmarks on the omnibus bill. Now it's too late to deal with this issue, as gov't programs will shut down starting Friday if this "leftover" spending bill doesn't become law.

      I know Obama has a lot to deal with, but this is a bill that's been sitting on the backburner since last Fall, so certainly he could've dispatched Rahm Emanuel or somebody to cut down some of those ridiculous earmarks, like the ones for museums and pig odor studying (or something like that). And you wonder why they call it PORK barrel projects.

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      • Author by chucko (March 05, 2009 4:57 am ET)
           

        *meant to say "Great reporting BY MMFA but..."

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        • Author by thejbomb65 (March 05, 2009 9:55 am ET)
             

          a fair point chucko but there have been other things that president obama has had to deal with, and now he has to rush things through fast to make sur ethe government doesn't shut down by next week, i think that more than anything is why he doesn't strike this down.

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      • Author by ajzito (March 05, 2009 7:40 am ET)
           

        It's hard to argue with Chucko's point here - you have to wonder why Obama didn't make at least a symbolic effort to trim this appropriation.  On the other hand, I think that calls of "liar" and "broken promises" from the right are nothing but revenge.  Many on the right think that those accusations against Bush were just politics as usual, and, gee, now it's their turn.  You can hardly expect Sean Hannity to recognize that Bush was called a liar because he was in fact an outrageous liar.

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        • Author by doggone-ga (March 05, 2009 10:36 am ET)
             

          "you have to wonder why Obama didn't make at least a symbolic effort to trim this appropriation"

          What "symbolic effort" do you think he can make?  The President does NOT have anything like a line item veto.  He can either sign the bill or not sign it.  There's no "symbolic" action at his disposal. NONE.

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          • Author by ajzito (March 05, 2009 10:16 pm ET)
               

            Nice use of irony.   What you really me is that he has ONLY symbolic actions at his disposal.  Like, decrying some of the spending, being critical of specific items in a speech, or saying,  "You see that money right there?  You won't see that one in my budget!"  Some little peep of protest, even.

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      • Author by princeofwheels (March 05, 2009 8:38 am ET)
           

        I, the PrinceofWheels, will give Prez Obama a simple solution..Cut out the 40% pork that the Repubs desire...that saves 40%...NEXT question? Problem?

        It answers the question about trying to overhaul the 'over-stuffed pork chopping'.

        Next, big government...Eliminate all government jobs held by Republicans. Another problem solved. Actually, it just solved the bi-partisan crap also.

        I know the above is sarcasm but can't the sharks wait just a little bit before they all become experts on everything. And besides, most of these experts are fairly high on the pay scale.

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    • Author by skiploader1111 (March 05, 2009 5:27 am ET)
         
      What's that phrase these same cons in the MSM repeated over and over and over again the first several months of 05? "Sour Grapes" HA HA!
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    • Author by frankq2722 (March 05, 2009 7:04 am ET)
         
      Wolf if you are left with only watching Rachel and Keith, you can't possibly be thinking that you are getting both sides of the issue. I generally switch during commercials between fox and msnbc, but lately keith and rachel are spending more time talking about the past president than what is going on today. All you hear for 2 hours is bush bush bush bush bush bush bush bush bush. Let's deal with todays issues, but honestly if you want to take your liberal talking points for 2 hours and think it is credible news go ahead, I would suggest watching more than just those shows but most on here are too close minded.
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      • Author by Appleboy (March 05, 2009 7:57 am ET)
           

        I'm a liberal but I have to say Keith is nobody we should be proud of. Many stories on his show are such BS and quite worthless. His philosphy is basically liberals good, convservatives bad (similar to Rush and Sean's view except reversed). Keith does some good by pushing back the crap from the right, but my god, can't we do better than him?

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        • Author by roxman (March 05, 2009 12:34 pm ET)
             

          Bill and Sean have been on FOX for years spouting the rights talking points Monday-Friday. Keith and Rachel are now on MSNBC opposite Bill and Sean. It gives us liberals something that is on our side for a change to watch and listen to.

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          • Author by Appleboy (March 05, 2009 1:38 pm ET)
               

            And you don't care that 50% of his show is nothing but trash talk and distortions of facts. Our liberal voices are becoming as dumb as those on the right. We should all rejoice in this! People don't watch KO to be informed, they watch him because it gives them a nice fuzzy feeling inside when he trashes the other side. His show is DUMB! It's a shame that we feel the need to praise his show because the likes of Rush and Sean have their show too.

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            • Author by roxman (March 05, 2009 1:57 pm ET)
                 

              Well, Bill and Sean have 100% trash talk and ditortions of facts on their shows so I guess I can listen to the 50% trash talk and ditortions of facts by Keith. Yes, I do get a nice fuzzy feeling from Keith and Rachel. It feels so good to have the liberals confront the wingnuts.

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              • Author by Appleboy (March 05, 2009 2:29 pm ET)
                   
                I agree it makes me feel fuzzy inside too (sometimes). But mostly I feel disgust and sad that we can't do better than these clowns we see everyday.
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                • Author by thomp.steve9098 (March 05, 2009 3:01 pm ET)
                     

                  The right wing blogs are running with Ann Coulter's article claiming that Olbermann lied about attending an ivy league college.  Has Olbermann responded at all?

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        • Author by truth2tell (March 05, 2009 3:10 pm ET)
             

          Can you sight any examples of Olbermann items that are BS and worthless?  I think one of the biggest differences between Liberals and Conservatives is that Liberals are very interested in getting at the truth while Conservatives are hurt by the truth so they cover it up.  If you do some research into the origins of today's Neo-Cons, you'll see that lying is a big part of their game plan.  Journalists who have worked on both the left and the right have been surprised at the lack of fact-checking on the right.  Does that tell you anything?

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          • Author by truth2tell (March 05, 2009 3:13 pm ET)
               

            Correction: Can you cite...

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            • Author by Appleboy (March 05, 2009 5:47 pm ET)
                 

              Here's one from this week http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh030209.shtml scroll down about half way. Here's another http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh022609.shtml

              And please stop comparing him to the nuts on the right. Just because they are dumb does that mean we should be too?

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              • Author by truth2tell (March 05, 2009 9:03 pm ET)
                   

                Okay, I checked it out.  The Daily Howler writer strikes me as a nitpicking A-hole who can't see the big picture.  As for the "nuts on the right," that's all the right has!  I don't know any Republicans who aren't profoundly influenced by the "nuts on the right."

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              • Author by Brabantio (March 06, 2009 8:04 am ET)
                   

                That first dailyhowler piece has got to be one of the most ridiculous pieces of writing I've ever seen.  Did you actually read it?  It's hard to take someone seriously when they mock the use of the word "impied" and claim that the "tenses and time frames" of Jindal's story aren't "definitive".  Jindal may have been trying to spin the story, but we just don't know.  Holy crap.

                I agree with the larger point that Olbermann shouldn't be defended blindly, especially just because there are tons of dishonest and unhinged pundits on the right.  We should hold ourselves to higher standards.

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      • Author by truth2tell (March 05, 2009 10:08 pm ET)
           

        What makes you think all issues have two sides?  Some have more. Some have only one valid side.  A big problem with the media today is FALSE EQUIVALENCE!

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    • Author by bruce1ace (March 05, 2009 7:17 am ET)
         
      I watched the State of the Union with interest. When Obama said he doesn't believe in bigger government I laughed out loud. It was a great line, the President gives an excellent speech. But seriously....
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      • Author by Appleboy (March 05, 2009 7:48 am ET)
           

        Why is that funny? We are in a time of crisis and many world class economists say the only way to dig ourselves out of this situation is through government spending. Now in normals times Obama doesn't believe in big government. Why is this concept so difficult to grasp?

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        • Author by bruce1ace (March 05, 2009 8:24 am ET)
             

          Politicians believe in big government.  Both sides believe it.

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      • Author by truth2tell (March 05, 2009 3:15 pm ET)
           

        Better bigger government that bigger big business!

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    • Author by wesley (March 05, 2009 8:06 am ET)
         

       -- it has never been more important to ensure that as our economy recovers, we do what it takes to bring this deficit down. -- Pres.Obama

      mmfa's singular purpose is not to correct conservative misinformation...it is to promote and defend all things liberal and all policies of Pres.Obama...under the guise of being a media wathchdog.

      Pres.Obama says he's "not for bigger government" and that's all it takes for mmfa to spill barrels of ink defending him. Over the course of several days and many articles...mmfa hauled out economists Krugman and Baker to defend Obama's big government style spending spree.

      Well, here's what Krugman/Baker had to say about Obama's plan for big government spending to stimulate the economy...and...Obama's plan to reduce the deficit when the economy rebounds.

       -- F.D.R. wasn't just reluctant to pursue an all-out fiscal expansion -- he was eager to return to conservative budget principles. That eagerness almost destroyed his legacy. After winning a smashing election victory in 1936, the Roosevelt administration cut spending and raised taxes, precipitating an economic relapse that drove the unemployment rate back into double digits and led to a major defeat in the 1938 midterm elections. -- Krugman

       -- Roosevelt was too worried about the whining of the anti-stimulus crowd that he confronted. He remained concerned about balancing the budget when the proper goal of fiscal policy should have been large deficits to stimulate the economy. -- Baker

      mmfa, Krugman, and Baker...all rushing to Pres.Obama's support when he promotes big government spending...so let's here what they have to say when Obama promotes raising taxes and reducing the deficit...cited by them as the reason why FDR's policy was not correct.

      Pres.Obama is a political chameleon just like most of his predecessors. So far he has not proven to be "different" as he has espoused in his "hope" campaign rhetoric.

      I haven't seen anything yet from Pres.Obama to suggest that he is not for bigger government...oh yeah, except for his comment that he's not...and mmfa's simple minded support of that comment.

       -- What saved the economy, and the New Deal, was the enormous public works project known as World War II, which finally provided a fiscal stimulus adequate to the economy’s needs...My advice to the Obama people is to figure out how much help they think the economy needs, then add 50 percent. -- Krugman

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      • Author by bruce1ace (March 05, 2009 8:35 am ET)
           

        I caught that right away when Obama started talking about cutting the deficit in half during our recovery.  MMFA certainly documented that as not working back in the late 30's, in fact pointed out that it severely hurt the recovery.

        Obama said we could do it by pulling troops out of Iraq, raising taxes on the top 2% and cutting wasteful spending in other areas. 

        Of course, Afghanistan is ramping up again and who knows what might happen as far as other unexpected expenditures over the next few years.  There's always something.  I'll believe the deficit reduction when I see it.

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      • Author by Appleboy (March 05, 2009 9:12 am ET)
           

        After a while FDR cut spending and raised taxes. I don't know the anwser to this but perhaps you can help me. Who did FDR raise taxes on and by how much? Was it just a 4% increase for the top 2 percent of the wealthy or was it a tax increase across the board? And is Obama planning to cut spending like FDR did? What I would like is more information on this. Performing an elementary FDR/Obama comparison really isn't all that informative. I can get this kind of analysis from our media.

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        • Author by wesley (March 05, 2009 12:19 pm ET)
             

          Here's a starting point for your term paper...

          FDR increased the top income tax rate by 25% to 79%...on the lowest income tax rate, he made no increase.

          Taxing the rich...sound familiar.

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          • Author by Appleboy (March 05, 2009 1:59 pm ET)
               

            FDR raised it by 25% to 79% on the highest income tax rate? Thanks for making my point. Obama wants to raise it from 35% to 39% on those making over $250.  So you really think those 2 tax increases are comparable. When Obama proposes to increase the tax rate from 36% to 80% for those making over $250K then maybe we can talk.

            FDR cut spending and raised taxes too quickly. In order to compare that to Obama, then Obama will need to cut spending prematurely AND also raise taxes in a similar fashsion to what  FDR did. I believe your comparison of FDR's tax hike and Obama's  proposed tax hike is very weak.

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            • Author by wesley (March 05, 2009 2:33 pm ET)
                 

              FDR raised the taxes by 25%...Obama's proposal is 12%...suit yourself if you want to swallow that.

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              • Author by Appleboy (March 05, 2009 3:27 pm ET)
                   
                Aren't we comparing a 25% to 79% increase against a 35% to 39% increase? Going from 25 to 79 is a 216% increase, going from 35 to 39 is a 11% increase. Also, as I mentioned Obama has tax cuts for those below 250K. Your link above states there were no increase in taxes for the lowest tax rate. But what about the people in the middle? Were they taxed at a higher rate or not? Or was it just a tax increase on the very upper end? My limited research gave no anwser.
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          • Author by Appleboy (March 05, 2009 2:27 pm ET)
               
            And lets not forget Obama is cutting taxes for those under $250k, something FDR did not do with his tax increase.
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    • Author by wzwriter (March 05, 2009 10:49 am ET)
         

      HANNITY: You know something? I am angry. You know what I'm angry about? Because we have a president that has lied to us.

      That's hysterical.  Sean Hannity lies each and every time he opens his piehole.

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      • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (March 05, 2009 12:13 pm ET)
           

        TRUER WORDS WERE NEVER SPOKEN

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      • Author by roxman (March 05, 2009 12:19 pm ET)
           

        ...and Bush and Cheney lied to the whole world for 8 years! Where is Hannity's outrage about that?

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    • Author by roxman (March 05, 2009 12:15 pm ET)
         
      This is Bush's bill that is going through. So if you don't like the "pork", Sean, then blame Bush not Obama! Obama has enough to worry about with his own bills. I love how the right got so upset if someone said Bush lied-can't say those things about the US President! But they have no trouble saying that, and much worse, about Obama.
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    • Author by Liebuster (March 05, 2009 12:29 pm ET)
         
      Amen. We have learned from the many lessons taught to us by the liberal media and liberals in general. Twisting facts has been their way of existence under the carpet for years. Now that they have to stand in the spotlight, the truth comes out. I thought that Bush had the most corrupt group surrounding him until I saw the itemized list of Obama's. Whoa! You guys are expecting transparency and honesty out of this administration. Good luck. Now I see why you all are so angry and hateful to your fellow Americans all of the time! This is going to be awesome to watch THIS unfold. Such a bright guy eh? The government will receive less revenue under this cat's plan and will also add to our economical woes on top of it all! This is real change that I could not remotely believe in. Keep walking behind the Pied piper folks...
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      • Author by thejbomb65 (March 05, 2009 1:16 pm ET)
           

        well don't forget your own pied piper yourself their liebuster.

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      • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (March 05, 2009 7:42 pm ET)
           

        Are you saying that CONSERVATIVES have NOT been twisting facts for their own purposes? Becauseif you are, than you are out of your mind. Listen to these RIGHT WING  IDIOTS for a while. They lie and twist facts every time they open their mouths.

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    • Author by Liebuster (March 05, 2009 12:31 pm ET)
         
      Oh no! Liberals don't like partake in the cold serving of criticism/reality. They just want to throw rocks and not take any back in THEIR direction. This is a field day.
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      • Author by thejbomb65 (March 05, 2009 1:14 pm ET)
           

        and when reality was being dealt to the previous administration and they continued to lie? what then?

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      • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (March 06, 2009 1:11 am ET)
           

        ACTUALLY, We LIBERALS just like to hit the CONSERVATIVES with the truth. The sad fact is that the RIGHT WINGERS cant handle the truth.

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    • Author by Liebuster (March 05, 2009 12:33 pm ET)
         
      Bush/Cheney, Bush/Cheney...They are gone folks. Not person that worships Allah is an extremist Muslim folks. Not every Republican is Bush/Cheney either. I know why you libs say that. It's impact will lessen over time.
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      • Author by roxman (March 05, 2009 12:51 pm ET)
           

        Bush/Cheney may be gone but they left a colossal mess everywhere we look for the new administration to clean-up and/or fix. What a disastrous 8 years and now Obama has to clean up their poop.

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      • Author by skiploader1111 (March 05, 2009 1:10 pm ET)
           

        "Not every Republican is Bush/Cheney either. I know why you libs say that."

        Because most people in the GOP (Rush, Hannity, Steele, Hume, DeLay, Santelli, Cramer, among many others, even McCain) STILL are adhereing to George W. Bush's philosophy of more tax cuts for the wealthy and more government deregulation.

        Here's the long term pattern:

        When times are good the conservative plan is to: cut taxes for the wealthy and deregulate oversight on corporations.  This in turn results in a future crisis.  Then when times get bad, the plan is to cut MORE taxes, deregulate MORE, and use the crisis as an excuse to cut social programs as well and say that government hasn't worked when cons had already been busy removing government already. This crisis plan would make the crisis even worse and remove the safety net for people right along with it.

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      • Author by thejbomb65 (March 05, 2009 1:15 pm ET)
           

        its like when a slug travels, very slow and always leaves a very slimy trail. that is the summation of w. and dick

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      • Author by wzwriter (March 05, 2009 4:33 pm ET)
           

        Bush/Cheney, Bush/Cheney...They are gone folks. Not person that worships Allah is an extremist Muslim folks. Not every Republican is Bush/Cheney either. I know why you libs say that. It's impact will lessen over time.

        OK, "Liebusater".  The next time you try to blame something on Bill Clinton, don't bother posting.  He's been out of office for eight years, and you nitwit righties are still trying to blame the current economic situation on him.

        When the blame clearly lies in the Bush Misadministration.

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    • Author by Liebuster (March 05, 2009 2:07 pm ET)
         
      The reason that they adhere to that is the facts are impossible to ignore. Take the same trillion dollars and put this into the hands of American citizens and watch the stock market/economy BOOM. Look what it is doing right now. Dropping. Well, you can see how much the stimulus is stimulating. This economy needs the American people to turn it on. I know that Obama does it for you all, but the economy is not too turned on by beaurocracy. Keep putting to that 1% and see how stable your jobs become. Personally, good for them! I am not jealous of their prosperity and the life they lead at all.
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      • Author by Appleboy (March 05, 2009 4:01 pm ET)
           
        "Give money to American citizens and watch the stock market BOOM". Who in the world ever said anything like that? You think this mess can be cleared up in a matter of weeks? The damage is done, our only hope now is to lessen it a bit and hopefully pull out of this disaster sooner than later.
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    • Author by Liebuster (March 05, 2009 2:12 pm ET)
         
      Cutting taxes does WHAT? By that rationale, why can't school systems for instance do anything productive with the stimulus money or the police depts here? The problem is that in the 4th year, the money stops. Then the city or county has to cover those costs of additional police officers, more school teachers, etc. This stimulus is doing nothing but hurting the economy worse. A bandaid for a couple of years and then we are worse off than before. Tax dollars tied up in the free market is what we need. Investment in our futures. This is an easy slam dunk...I cannot believe that you all could see this so backwards!!! Listen to your LOCAL folks that now are in a log jam trying to figure our how to use this money. Just listen. Turn off the computer, the tv, the radio and ask them these questions folks...sheesh!
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      • Author by tman418 (March 05, 2009 2:42 pm ET)
           

        The stimulus is barely active yet and you are attributing it to ruining our economy while the economy has been going down the tubes for awhile now, long before Obama was even announced as the Democratic nominee.

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    • Author by Liebuster (March 05, 2009 2:15 pm ET)
         
      No, they did not leave this mess. The housing boom was well into motion early on in their administration. Listen to your whacked out friend, Bill Maher, he illustrates how he believes this housing crisis directly correlates with this economic crisis. (And duh, by the way) If the democrats did not feel that folks deserve a home because their heart beats we would not be here!!!!
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    • Author by Liebuster (March 05, 2009 2:17 pm ET)
         
      Will someone shut Obama up PLEASE??? The DOW was down 120 points when I went to lunch and now after he spoke it is down 280.
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      • Author by tman418 (March 05, 2009 2:43 pm ET)
           

        Yes, ignore the fact that the DOW has been dropping for months and months now. This economy will not recover in the first 3 months of Obama's presidency.

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      • Author by foghornleghorn (March 05, 2009 2:51 pm ET)
           

        The DJIA is dropping because the insulated rich folk are throwing a hissy fit because the gravy train of the past 8 years is over and they have come to realize that our current president doesn't make policy based on the fluctuations of a gambling center (Wall St.)

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      • Author by ysbaddaden20035928 (March 05, 2009 5:00 pm ET)
           

        http://money.cnn.com/2009/03/05/markets/markets_newyork/index.htm

        "Nasdaq ends at a 6-year low, and Dow and S&P 500 fall to fresh 12-year lows as investors fret about GM, Citigroup and the global economy."

        As you see it has to do with rapidly unfolding events, not Obama's speeches.

        If anyone can possibly cause this it's Wall Street who wants to be bailed out without any strings attached, like the bail out bush passed.

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      • Author by truth2tell (March 05, 2009 11:01 pm ET)
           

        That proves that your eating lunch is bad for the economy.

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    • Author by Liebuster (March 05, 2009 2:51 pm ET)
         
      The smart money is pulling out of this market. I pulled out last April when advised to do so and I saved a huge amount of money. The folks with good sound common sense know what this taxwastulus is about to do. There is no end to this. What is more disheartening, is we just have to put up with it. Obama loves seeing the retirees and the 1% lose their rear ends to be forced to depend on the government. The most infuriating part of this is how he is impacting those who should have just retired or that IS retired. This is an absolute travesty to those that plowed the way for you all to choose this for them. Do you think they would have voted Obama if they knew he would crush us even further into recession/depression. Anyone that knows where the end of this is, let me know.
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      • Author by roxman (March 05, 2009 3:21 pm ET)
           

        “Obama loves seeing the retirees and the 1% lose their rear ends to be forced to depend on the government.”

        That is so laughable! Where was all this outrage when the Bush/Cheney gang was running things? History Lesson-this all happened under the last administration! Bush/Chaney and all their rich friends making money off the backs of middle class. Obama is just trying to clean up the enormous mess the Republicans left behind.

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      • Author by truth2tell (March 05, 2009 11:03 pm ET)
           

        Yeah, it's really smart to pull out when the market is down. BUY HIGH AND SELL LOW!  Those "smart" people must be rich!

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        • Author by Liebuster (March 05, 2009 11:30 pm ET)
             

          You are a real SAVVY bidness man, I can tell.  Gosh, this really is tough for me to stoop down to do...

          You get out of the stock market and buy bonds and CD's.  Rather than lose 70% of my retirement, I lost only 25%. 

          So yes.

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    • Author by jcalton (March 05, 2009 2:57 pm ET)
         

      In refuting these claims, MediaMatters keeps asserting that Obama said he wanted to "clean up" and "reform" the earmark system (not "eliminate" it).

      But does the earmark spending so far look like it's being "cleaned up" and/or "reformed?"

      In other words, their assertions are essentially correct, but their facts are wrong: Change their quotations to "Obama promised to CLEAN UP earmarks, but he isn't. He lied," and see if you have the same story here.

      I don't think he lied, personally, but I think Media Matters is just answering misleading inflammatory rhetoric with misleading inflammatory rhetoric.

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    • Author by Liebuster (March 05, 2009 3:49 pm ET)
         
      I BEG TO DIFFER. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IS FUNNY ABOUT ANYTHING WITH THESE RETIREES. That comment is infuriating to me. How ungrateful can you possibly be for this supposed mess of a country you inherited? As you all say for the poor, "It isn't FAIR". Well, these folks that worked their entire life and now need a break...THAT is not fair. I sit next to a hardworking man right now at work who is 62 and cannot retire until the market comes back. Meanwhile Obama is personally crippling the economy. Want to know what is alarmingly naive and shallow to think of? You folks will be attempting to blame Bush for this 20 years from now. Quit drinking the koolaid and wake up folks.
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      • Author by moe (March 05, 2009 4:28 pm ET)
           

        When did the economy begin to tank?  Who approved the bail-out of the banks?

        A little suggestion: Stop regurgitating what Limbaugh says.  I know this might be a shock to the system but just becasue he says its true doesn't mean its true...seriously.

        The Obama personally crippling the economy comment is delusional.  You seem more interested in silly rants than you are in facts -very  limbaugh-esque

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      • Author by roxman (March 05, 2009 7:37 pm ET)
           

        You right wingers need to quit using that phrase "drink the kool aid" out of respect for the people who died that terrible day at Jonestown. It was not Kool Aid that those poor people drank! It was Flavor Aid. Not surprising, you people just can't get your history correct.

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      • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (March 06, 2009 1:14 am ET)
           

        LIE, please  pull your head out of the sand before you suffocate.

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    • Author by Liebuster (March 05, 2009 7:51 pm ET)
         

      Well, the other guy that I cannot stand did it, Bush.  Who voted that bill into action?  A pretty much democratically controlled Congress/House.  I don't listen to Rush, I WORK.  SO, to expound on your erroneous statement, "to say Obama cannot impact the economy and folks choices in the free market with his proposed policies is delusional?"  I think YOU are in fact delusional or better yet ignorant of our economy and the attibuting factors to bulls and bears to make that statement. 

      Let's take another moment to cram that statement further into the status of TOTALLLY INCORRECT!  Does other countries political moves impact our economy?  Yes.  Does weather affect our economy?  Oh yes!  (I could not get a flatbed to deliver my goods during Katrina which impacted my bottom line.)  Does misinformation impact the economy?  Well, of course.  Did President Obama affect the economy positively when HE advised us to jump back into the market Tuesday?  Nope.  People sold, sold, sold.  If you do not think the leader of the free world cannot affect almost everything around you, you did not realize the true depth of the vote that you placed and the inexperienced man that you stand behind!

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      • Author by roxman (March 05, 2009 9:00 pm ET)
           

        Liebuster, we are in a GLOBAL-World Wide Recession! or don’t you have time to listen to the evening news once in a while, either? I guess you think the World Wide Recession is Obama’s fault. But you would be WRONG! It is Bush’s fault!

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      • Author by truth2tell (March 05, 2009 10:17 pm ET)
           

        What part of Mississippi are you from?

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        • Author by Liebuster (March 05, 2009 11:36 pm ET)
             

          "Yeah, it's really smart to pull out when the market is down. BUY HIGH AND SELL LOW!  Those "smart" people must be rich!"

          Now, look at this REAL BRIGHT bidness man in THIS market.  I bet you were one of the folks that DID listen to Obama Tuesday weren't ya?  (I hope not!)  Please buy all of the stock that you can.  Obama will appreciate another broke constituent.

          You get out of the stock market and buy bonds and CD's.  Rather than lose 70% of my retirement, I lost only 25%.  While watching my good friend, Mr. 62 year old wanting to retire lose over $300,000 since I made that move last April.

          I guess that you did at least spell Mississippi right.  No I am not from there.  If I was I wouldn't tell you though anyway.

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        • Author by Liebuster (March 05, 2009 11:42 pm ET)
             

          That statement goes to show you just how ignorant you are of the impact upon the market in general that Katrina caused.  ALL of the common carrier driver were taking supplies down there.  I am across the country.

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            • Author by Liebuster (March 06, 2009 12:25 am ET)
                 

              Well, can you count to 7000?  Seems like they are still pulling out in droves.  Obama is going for the record!!!!

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    • Author by smarshall1432997 (March 05, 2009 7:54 pm ET)
         

      Here's my polls about "Political News Coverage" regarding Democrats & Republicans so far in 2009: 

      "True" Political Coverage CNN - 35%, FoxNews - 10%, MSNBC - 54%.  This kind of coverage can be confirmed by other network stations (abc, cbs, nbc), internet web sites, print publications, and newspapers around the world to be 99% factual (true).

      "Entertaining" Political Coverage:  CNN - 25%, FoxNews - 67%, MSNBC - 18%.  This coverage can be confirmed by other network stations (abc, cbs, nbc), internet web sites, print publications, and newspapers around the world to be false 100% false(misleading).

      I am constantly channel surfing and comparing the news to get what's "true" and what's "entertaining".  So far, FoxNews keeps me laughing with disbelief, and after these numbers above I see why.

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    • Author by LeftyMedia (March 06, 2009 5:13 pm ET)
         

      The key point here is as follows.  For right-wing columnists and commentators like George Will and Rush Limbaugh--and if Will wants to lie about global warming and American history, he should be lumped in with a lump whom he clearly disdains--to take these positions is no big deal.  Yes, we can and should resent and correct it, but that is what they do.  What is far worse is when mainstream media outlets do not report properly.  Consider Wednesday night's Daily Show, when Jon Stewart displayed CNBC's tendency to do the Limbaugh:  bend over, grab its ankles, and let CEOs do whatever they want.  Or when Stewart was the only TV show that showed CPAC chanting, "Four more years!" at Bush last year when they clearly wanted nothing to do with him this year.  We need to concentrate on the outlets that are supposed to be reporting fairly and are not.

      As for the others, it's simple:  refuse to buy any product that advertises on the station or in the publication where these liars appear, and inform the companies involved that you are doing so.  If enough of us do that, especially in this economic climate, you'll suddenly get some attention.

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    • Author by has11578 (March 07, 2009 1:54 pm ET)
         

      What bothers me most about this is, that when everyone in the Bush administration including Bush himself was lying with every breath they took, no one would call them on it.  Oh, some would allude to it, "misstatements", "half-truths", "misleading", but no one would say the world LIE.  Keith Olbermann even tiptoed around it.  Rachel Maddow was the only one I saw who said LIE, LIAR, they LIED.  And now, before Pesident Obama has even had a chance, they're spinning and lying themselves and using the dreaded words they refused to use about Bush.  I even heard correspondants and stratigests say they were hesitant to use harsh words like lie because he was our President.  So much for that argument now.  Hypocritical, two faced LYING mainstream media butt kissers!!!!  I mean, not only did Bush LIE, but his lies caused, death, torture, distruction and devestation. What these people fail to understand is that in their business, words and symantics really do matter.

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