On Dobbs, Donohue claims attacks on Jews, blacks, gays, Hispanics don't compare to intensity of anti-Christian attacks
November 05, 2009 4:57 pm ET
From the November 5 edition of United Stations Radio Networks' The Lou Dobbs Show:
Previously:
Donohue refers to the "gay death style"
Palin's book and Obama's bow: a media week to forget
Media Matters: The Palin chronicles
The Friday Rush: A series of conflicts
Donahue is just mad because kids can't have teacher led prayers in school.
Whoa, there, Mag, this isn't about fancy "statistics", or "facts", or anything close to reality. It's about right wing victimhood, and their "feelings".
I wish he and his ilk would just go away. But those on the Right love him---obviously.
Christians want our children to pray to their god in schools.
Christians want us to believe in a fairy tale notion that the universe was created in 6 days. Oh, I know. A day is like a 1000 years. Spare me. Then, if we are to rest on the 7th day, can I please get my 1000 years of REST??
Christians want us to believe that man rode dinosaurs, because Darwin was wrong.
Now, why do y'all think we make fun of Christians? Anyone care to guess? Could it be that they are a bunch of wackos who think they are right and we are going to hell? How can anyone possibly take them seriously?
Disclaimer - This is only aimed at the fundamentalist Christians who believe in the GOP's "moral values" crap. Those of you who are more tolerant, and believe in separation of church and state are OK.
Now, why do y'all think we make fun of Christians? Anyone care to guess? Could it be that they are a bunch of wackos who think they are right and we are going to hell? How can anyone possibly take them seriously?
Disclaimer - This is only aimed at the fundamentalist Christians who believe in the GOP's "moral values" crap. Those of you who are more tolerant, and believe in separation of church and state are OK."
[i]Gee, thanks for that, at least.
Anti-Christian bigotry should be no more tolerable than Christian bigotry. You spent your entire post accusing "Christians" of believing this and that, then wrap up with "oh, but I don't mean TOLERANT Christians. You guys are ok."
How about this- want tolerance? How about showing some in return?
(BTW, I'm an Athiest. But I hate bigotry, regardless of the direction it arrives from.)
Simmer down now. The use of the word "Christian" was using the same term as Donahue.
Think a moment - just exactly who complains about "anti-Christian attacks"? In what form do these supposed attacks occur?
Are Christians rounded up and sent to concentration camps? Are they lynched?
Think. Who's complaining? And why?
It's the fundamentalist "moral values" group. Donahue was referring to them. They are the only ones complaining.
The GOP takes advantage of this group by pretending they have the corner on "moral values", and want to push their twisted ideas of Christianity on the rest of us. They want all those things I mentioned in my post. My post was direct at them.
You want an example of bigotry? To the "moral values" group, the recent defeat of gay marriage in Maine is a victory for the institution of marriage. I don't need THEM to defend my marriage by discriminating against a loving gay couple who want to marry. That's not MY values.
But, they twist their narrow interpretation of the bible around to make it say what they want it to say in order to justify their hateful actions. They are no better than that Taliban.
I used to be a raging fundamentalist. But at some point, I began to wonder about the logic of that belief system. It goes like this:
The fundamentalist claim they "know" their way is the right way. Completely delusional.
If they "know" they are right, then by definition, they don't have faith, because faith is a belief in something that cannot be proven. You can't 'know" you are right, if you have faith. You can only believe, and hope you are right.
So, if it's a matter of faith, they can be wrong.
If they can be wrong, those they oppose may be right.
There should be tolerance for others views, because people of other faiths can be just as right or wrong as anyone else.
But, we don't see such tolerance from the "moral values" dim-wits. If they shoot live ammunition at the rest of us, they certainly should expect return fire & stop whining about it.
REAL Christians know their beliefs are a matter of faith. AND they follow the 2 greatest commandments:
By this shall all men know that you are my disciples, if you have love one to another. John 13:35
One of the Pharisees tested Jesus with a question, "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied, " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments" (Matthew 22:36-40).
And if a supposed "Christian" needs to completely ignore the facts of scientific evidence in order to feel secure in their beliefs, they should seriously think of moving to some deserted island. Because this country will continue to move forward based on real science, not some creation myth.
God can survive our doubts.
I guess the Church's new slogan should be: Christianity - You Just Might Be White Enough or Us!
Bishops in the South defending segregation;
KKK recruiting white Catholics;
White Catholics joining KKK
Donohue would be very comfortable with that crowd. F**K him.
Where have you gone Phil (O')Donahue, our nation turns its lonely eyes to you?