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Hannity, Bachmann echo Limbaugh, advance falsehood that private insurance would be illegal under House bill

October 30, 2009 9:54 pm ET

From the October 30 edition of Fox News' Hannity:

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Limbaugh falsely claimed House bill "prohibits the sale" of private individual insurance

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    • Author by Sharpe (October 30, 2009 10:38 pm ET)
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      This complete is just blatantly lying to the audience. This is exactly why FOX is so much worse than just biased. This woman is spreading smears and falsehoods that undermine the entire process. There is no date in which people cannot buy private insurance - TOTALLY AND ABSOLUTELY FALSE,
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    • Author by Civic Racecar (October 30, 2009 10:47 pm ET)
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      I'm not sure what they are reading. Is it the right-wing playbook on how to kill healthcare reform? When I read page 92 it talks about restrictions on premium increases. It also talks about the new minimum requirements for insurance plans and the grandfathering in of private insurance plans to these new requirements. Maybe Hannity and Bachmann should actually read the bill. Hannity has an excuse. It's because he just doesn't know any better (he wasn't exactly gifted with intelligence), but Bachmann has no excuse. That is what she gets paid for and I think her constituents should oust her for someone that actually does his/her job.
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      • Author by aBeck in 10-O-C (October 31, 2009 12:58 am ET)
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        The formula is simple. Quote a page number--any page, then tell your lie. Now it is the gospel that allows you to follow up with an astonishing string of other lies that scare the life out of people.

        Fox can now send all its people home for the week and just recycle their programming from the month of August. It doesn't get any easier than this.
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        • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (October 31, 2009 7:35 am ET)
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          Wow, you better read page 603. Right there it says will not pay for reversing Hannity's lobotomy.
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      • Author by pilotx (October 31, 2009 1:11 pm ET)
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        Bachmann has no excuse? Since when is congress a bastion of intellect? Have you heard the things she and Peter King say? How bout Steve King? How about Virginia Fox? Oh no, it's all about riling up the base to get re-elected. If they don't believe the stuff they're saying and it's a cynical ploy that to me is even worse.
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        • Author by wolf kotenberg (November 01, 2009 12:34 am ET)
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          Congress is a reflection of the few people that decided to vote that particular year. If the people that she represents are happy with her, fine. Keep dumbing down this society and soon, these buffoons will appeare as brilliant orators.
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          • Author by Civic Racecar (November 02, 2009 12:16 am ET)
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            I hope we never get to that point. What really needs to happen, is a fundamental change in the way we look at politics. This winner and loser stuff is just ridiculous. I can't believe the Democrats and the Republicans can't work out a bill that provides for reduced costs in healthcare and is supported by a super majority of the members of Congress. Hell, if the Court could get a unanimous decision in Brown, why can't 70% come together and put a bill forward.

            As for Congress, Congress is not a bastion of intellect. However, I would at least expect a Congresswoman to do her job and read the bill. If I went to a job, didn't do any work, and then told everyone that my employer was socialist and wanted to ruin people's lives; I don't think I would be working there for long. As for Bachmann's incompetence, I wish there was a way for Congress to cut her pay for failing to do her job, which involves reading the bill so that she can make educated decisions on the issue.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (October 30, 2009 10:49 pm ET)
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      Hey, FOX...is this opinion or news?
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      • Author by thename (October 30, 2009 11:53 pm ET)
           
        Neither. It's not news because nowhere does it say anything like that on page 92 or anywhere else. It's not opinion because even the most insane reading between the lines couldn't produce the specific language Bachmann's suggesting is there. It's simply out and out lies.

        I am amazed that these jokers are so cynical as to actually make things up while referencing an exact page. Even the laziest fact checker can pull up the bill and read the less than 200 words on page 92. Do they really have such a dim opinion of their audience? That Bachmann comes up with some bizarre pseudo-legalize to push this cynical charade further ... incredible.

        I don't want to put ideas in Hannity's viewers' heads but I would be sorely offended at such an outright slandering of my intelligence.
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      • Author by mescal (October 31, 2009 1:07 am ET)
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        I don't know... does a blatant lie really count as opinion?
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        • Author by liberalXtian (November 01, 2009 9:55 am ET)
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          Wasn't it Daniel Patrick Moynihan who said, "You are entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts."?
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          • Author by John Paradox (November 01, 2009 2:42 pm ET)
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            That's one attribution, but Wikiquote has it as pretty much uncertain:
            * Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
            o Variant: Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but they are not entitled to their own facts.
            + Quoted in Robert Sobel's review of Past Imperfect: History According to the Movies edited by Mark C. Carnes.
            o Variant: You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.
            + Quoted in Timothy J. Penny, Facts Are Facts, National Review September 4, 2003.
            + Ellen Hume, Tabloids, Talk Radio and the Future of News, part 4 (TOC), 1995 cites this as something Moynihan said to a "1994 electoral opponent on WNBC in New York".
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    • Author by double_eagle201402 (October 30, 2009 11:43 pm ET)
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      Michelle Bachman doesn't read anything. She is a total dunce and I'm sure her cronies know that. She thus becomes a useful conduit for spreading BS. They know that they can use people like her and her twin sister, Sarah Palin, to spread the crapola. The right wing leadership then remains unsullied by the stupidest of the stupid while still getting their message out there to confuse their dimwitted base.
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    • Author by antihannity2009 (October 31, 2009 12:39 am ET)
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      Its after 8pm so its an opinion show according to them. So, in Hannity's "opinion" this is what is on page 92 when in reality it is not. These two have no business telling people what is real and what is not. They are prime examples of those who live outside of reality. Bachmann wants the press to find out which people in congress are un-American and then a few days later deny it even says it regardless of outstanding evidence. Hannity on the other hand will just outright lie day after day as if its a second language to him.

      Someone should check to see if Fox is getting donations/funding from health insurance companies.
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    • Author by captfoster2 (October 31, 2009 2:19 am ET)
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      Hannity, Bachmann echo Limbaugh, advance falsehood that private insurance would be illegal under House bill

      It should be (well, non-profit for sure)... but alas, it won't be. At least not from this bill anyways!

      I sincerely hope that the good people of crazy bitch....er Michelle Bachmann's district vote her worthless rump out of office for good!

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    • Author by mk3872 (October 31, 2009 8:50 am ET)
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      I'm SURE these geniuses are RIGHT!

      Maybe Orly Taitz can take the U.S. Govt to court over a bill providing the mechanisms to provide the country with healthcare??
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    • Author by SMTDL (October 31, 2009 12:17 pm ET)
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      Dumb and Dumber.....these two have no business giving opinions on national TV.This false claim has been debunked over and over.They say this because they call any public option an eventual Government take over of healthcare..Even if public insurance couldn't compete with Government run insurance,its a lie to say private insurance is outlawed. Not an opinion ,a LIE!!!!!!
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (October 31, 2009 4:48 pm ET)
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      He gets a nutball answer from a nutball. I guess the dumb do hang together.
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    • Author by thundavolt (November 01, 2009 11:08 am ET)
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      Even if this part of the opinion section how can they be proud of running such distortion. Who benefits from this. There are so many other problems that could have been discussed which are more relevant to the situation. It is very clear that the intention is to stop reform at any cost. Finding solutions to a problem is a loss to the republicans being in power and controlling everything is their only interest. That is sick and scary.
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    • Author by MiddleMan (November 02, 2009 7:24 am ET)
         
      What do you find more offensive?
      Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction, or...
      The fact idiots like this can continually spread lies on an FCC sanctioned television network.
      Isn't there some kind of responsibility clause in the FCC charter?
      We all know that prescription drug commercials end up being mostly one long disclaimer. Shouldn't the FCC rule that Fox News needs to run a permanent disclaimer somewhere on its screen?
      But seriously, it turns my stomach to see such recklessness is allowed from "journalists." It makes me even sicker to know that someone who actually votes on the Capitol Hill (Bachmann) is consistently this wrong!
      We all believe in free speech. This is not free speech, it is senseless, shameful, unpatriotic drivel.
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