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Robertson calls for Israelis to "arm" the Temple Mount and "have a show of force"

October 26, 2009 7:27 pm ET

From the October 26 edition of Christian Broadcasting Network's The 700 Club:

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Robertson blamed Sharon stroke on policy of "dividing God's land"

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    • Author by Marker (October 26, 2009 7:31 pm ET)
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      What can you say about this clown spinning his fairy tales.
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      • Author by TheDayV (October 26, 2009 7:56 pm ET)
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        Simple; He's a bad person.
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      • Author by Sharpe (October 26, 2009 11:36 pm ET)
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        Please stop quoting scripture in "news."

        Horse coming down from heaven? Nonsense. Turning water into wine? Christian fact. I really don't see how one is more likely than another.

        Israel is anything but weak - it has fought off six countries simultaneously and is considered the leading force today behind advanced millitary technology.

        Palestinians flock to jerusalem - there are something around 35 percent of the population or more. If they want to riot, they will be arrested. Otherwise, as far as I know, they seem to enjoy living there so they shouldn't be rioting in a city. Thats how thousands die and then, Israel is criticized by the UN for defending itself again.
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        • Author by Sharpe (October 26, 2009 11:37 pm ET)
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          I meant he is trying to implement christian doctrine into a news story. Not that I consider the program news.
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    • Author by raine315 (October 26, 2009 7:32 pm ET)
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      Nothing to see here folks- just a little hurry up and get here Armageddon talk.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (October 26, 2009 7:34 pm ET)
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      Pat, the argument can be made that the whole loaves and fishes is a fiction, and so is the resurrection. The fact is, Islam views the Temple Mount as holy. It is also the spot where Abrahim was supposed to bind and sacrifice Ishmael, which is why the horse stopped there. In the West, Christians have used their religion for much more violence than Muslims have committed, so far. And Christianity isn't any more provable than Islam. The danger is that you preach fundamentalist fanaticism to your followers, and so do a few Muslim clerics. I wouldn't mind locking both groups in a room together until they worked it out or killed each other off.
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      • Author by John Paradox (October 26, 2009 7:49 pm ET)
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        A 404 on your memory here:
        Abram (Abraham) was to sacrifice Isaac, not Ishmael.

        Another interesting fact about the 'sacrifice' is that if you read carefully (without Pat Robertson/Jerry Falwell/others 'filtering'), when Abraham came down from the sacrifice of the lamb, there's no word on whether Isaac was with him. (That comes from the fact that the story, like much of the Bible, was made up by combining two stories - like the Creation story and others.)
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        • Author by SLRTX (October 26, 2009 9:23 pm ET)
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          That's because Abraham gave Isaac permission to run off & join the Love Boat as the bartender. ;-)
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        • Author by epkklk851 (October 26, 2009 10:16 pm ET)
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          I believe you will find that the Quran does not name Ishmael as the child, but Muslims believe that Ibrahim was ordered to bind and sacrifice his son, Ishmael, the older of the two children. Book Surah 37:99-113.
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          • Author by John Paradox (October 26, 2009 11:21 pm ET)
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            Whoops. Misread and don't have a copy of the 'Koran' at hand....

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            • Author by epkklk851 (October 27, 2009 8:16 am ET)
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              I own two Qurans, but got the reference through Wikipedia. The story of the Binding is very important to both Jews and Muslims. The fact that Pat Robertson wants to ignore this and move on the Temple Mount shows how little he understands or respects Islam. He also doesn't have much regard for Judaism, because it would open up a holy war if Israel tried to rebuild the Temple, but then, Pat is just waiting for the Apocalypse.
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      • Author by rkallen09 (October 26, 2009 7:55 pm ET)
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        I wouldn't mind locking both groups in a room together until they worked it out or killed each other off.
        Can you imagine it. Sadly I think a meeting like that would be as sad and pathetic as the debates between Big-Endians and Little-Endians over the practice of breaking eggs that plagued the tiny little people of Lilliput.
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    • Author by jbrantow (October 26, 2009 7:35 pm ET)
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      lying greedy chicken hawks shouldn't be giving advice re; war to anyone else. He must smell diamond minds somewhere?
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (October 26, 2009 8:14 pm ET)
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      Robertson calls for Israelis to "arm" the Temple Mount and "have a show of force"

      What is a show based on religion doing pedaling war tendacies?

      Opps I am sorry the CBN is not a religious network. It is a joke!
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      • Author by SLRTX (October 26, 2009 9:09 pm ET)
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        Boxer1979 -

        Patty-boy is an "end-timer". He would push the big red button himself if he thought it would cause the second coming of Christ.

        http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15044.htm
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        • Author by usp (October 26, 2009 9:13 pm ET)
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          won't cause the '2nd coming of christ". will cause the 1st 'going' of humanity.

          but they are THAT important.
          clowns
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          • Author by SLRTX (October 26, 2009 9:18 pm ET)
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            Some would argue that there's no evidence for the first coming. Only stories.
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        • Author by Boxer1979 (October 26, 2009 9:44 pm ET)
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          Maybe that is why he's on TV alot more talking out the side of his neck.
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    • Author by SLRTX (October 26, 2009 8:52 pm ET)
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      Grandpa Walton sure uses some convincing evidence for how those darn Arabs are following a foolish religion.

      This coming from a feeble-minded racist who follows a guy who roamed the area 2000 years ago doing magic tricks.

      Some even propose that the story of Jesus is eerily familiar to Horus, the Egyptian god. (see links)

      Good night, Grandpa. Good night, John-boy.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RV46fsmx6E

      http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/horus.htm
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    • Author by teabaggers ♥ [wing]NUTS (October 26, 2009 10:51 pm ET)
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      this is a news network? how do entities like this and fox news even survive with such similar styles and rhetoric? imagine, if fox had even more bible thumpers, it would be tantamount to CBN.
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    • Author by TomJoad (October 27, 2009 9:37 am ET)
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      The Temple Mount is the 3rd most holy site in the Muslim world. Ariel Sharon’s trespass there in the year 2000 sparked the second Intifada. The Israeli’s have often deliberately provoked Palestinian aggression by threatening the access of Arabs to the Al Aqsa mosque, despite its location in an area that should be under international control and is in fact illegally occupied by the Israeli government.

      Pat Roberton’s remarks in the video above are simply unbelievable.
      ‘It has belonged to the Jews since about 1,000 BC; it does not belong to the so-called ‘Palestinians...’’
      The term ‘so-called Palestinians’ is outrageous. Robertson means that, because scripture references an archaic Jewish ownership of the land of Israel, Palestinian claims of citizenship or existence there are not just inaccurate; they are morally wrong. That is, there is not such group as the ‘Palestinian’ people: there are only Arabs, ‘drugged roaches in a bottle’ who should live wherever we see fit. Nevermind that Palestinians have lived on and cultivated the land for centuries. By virtue of their habitation of the land over 2000 years ago, Jewish people are entitled to ownership of all of Israel, regardless of anything that transpired in the past 2 millennia.

      An argument reliant on Jewish divine right to Israel is simply irrelevant, because the people who must be convinced by such an argument do not subscribe to the religion from which it is derived. Muslims are not simply agnostic toward Jewish beliefs regarding Israel (in which case they might rationally forfeit all claims to Israel for the sake of peace, although this is entirely unjust, and solutions are largely the prerogative of the Palestinians themselves). Instead, Palestinians have the same religious conviction and fever for their claims to Palestine as the Jewish people do to the state of Israel. Simply claiming ‘my Holy text says this land belongs to me’ cannot scrub out the fact that the land has been occupied by another people for over 1500 years. Why should the claims of one religion be preferred over another?

      We can draw parallels based on the only remaining aspect of the Israeli claim to Palestinian lands – former inhabitation. American Indians, for example - undeniably the original inhabitants of the modern United States – must have a total claim of ownership and jurisdiction over the continent, and so called ‘Americans’ are unwelcome overstayers. Likewise, the Mayan people can lay claim to California, Texas, New Mexico etc, as the original inhabitants, and therefore present-day rightful owners.
      And it is the same logic – Jews, American Indians, Mayans, Incas - because once you set aside divine right, the only relevant remaining fact in regards to resolution of the Palestinian problem is the former Jewish habitation.

      ‘And to say [the Temple Mount] is one of the holy sites of Islam is pure fiction.’

      Why? Because the idea that Mohammed ascended to heaven from the Temple Mount is, quote, ‘all nonsense’ and ‘based on fantasy.’ Robertson clearly doesn’t realise it, but this is unusually dangerous territory for any person of faith. It’s one thing to assert your faith is the Only Truth. But why is Mohammed riding a horse to heaven any more or less plausible than Noah building an arc? Or Eve forming from Adam’s ribs? Or Moses parting the Red Sea? Or Lot’s wife turning to a pillar of salt for casting a glance at Sodom?? Robertson here is scoffing at a Muslim belief regarding a holy miracle because he doesn’t think it is a realistic story. Well Pot, meet Kettle. Attacking the plausibility of a story of faith is a bizarrely ridiculous method of reasoning for a person of equivalent faith. And regardless, simply saying ‘I don’t believe it happened’ doesn’t make the Temple Mount any more or less holy in the eyes of 1 billion Muslims.

      ‘The Jews ...ought to arm it, and have a show of force, and not give way... once you have that kind of weakness [a readiness to negotiate] then have you conflict.’

      This last statement is profoundly ignorant. If you want to start a wave of violence possibly more intense than anything we have seen in the last 61 years in Israel, the quickest way is probably to threaten Arab access to the Temple Mount. Pat Robertson is warning against conflict, but is clearly seeking the shortest path to it.
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      • Author by SLRTX (October 28, 2009 11:21 am ET)
           
        TomJoad,

        Patty wants to see Armageddon, because he's an end timer.

        These deranged wackos are dangerous. Neo-cons are end timers.

        Here's a great documentary with a description of end timers at:

        http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15044.htm
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