Beck tries to tie Obama to 70 million deaths by putting his words in Mao's mouth
October 23, 2009 12:26 pm ET
From the October 23 edition of Premier Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program:
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They're coming to take HIM away, ha-haaa!!
They're coming to take HIM away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa
To the funny farm. Where life is beautiful all the time and HE'LL be
happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're
coming to take HIM away . .
Ha-haaa!!!!!
(which is an absolute complement considering what some of the local fanatic Beck zombies have called me...)
ooops-nevermind-I see what you meant by above-lol, sorry!! It takes me a few minutes sometimes. Maybe it's NOT the dialysis..maybe my mind is going from watching Beck 5 times/week...? :0
But not everyone on the right believes that... I read a story today that quoted Luntz as saying Roger Ailes should run for pres in 2012. Fox and it's cohorts are on full attack, to them it is not a game, it is a power play for sole rights to control the nation's flow of information.
I'm angry... I was frusterated with the back and forth a few weeks ago, but I have devolved into full-on anger. I hate to admit that, but I'm losing faith in our society, and sizable faction of this country that is dreaming up military coups and attempting to defame anything or anyone remotely progressive... And the media is playing the role of defender of Fox and the lunatics... If you're the last sane man, does that make you insane?
Maybe if Maddow and Olbermann pick up on this kind of hateful rhetoric, the rest of the so called left-leaning media will put it on their airwaves then the country as a whole will know the damage one man can do.
It's obvious how REALLY Dangerous this is getting-but trying to "educate" Becks Zombies is next to impossible. Believe me-I live in a small town where over 95% of the residents believe he's the next "Walter Cronkite", (despite what he babbled about Walter last night). Did you guys see or hear O'Reilly's show a week or so ago, when Beck "slipped" and called his viewers "Zombies"? They were talking about the Flu Vaccine.
Dangerous? This guy is a terrifying Psycho-Sociopath with Rupert Murdoch, and Ailes behind him all the way--seeing how far they can push before one of tow things-or both, happens. 1. The WhiteHouse continues to after them, they continue to step up the dangerous rhetoric about Obama "taking away all our freedoms", until someone finds a way to knock Beck's insanity off the air-which is guaranteed to light the spark of the powder keg they've been building for months.
OR/and 2. someone takes a shot at the President-in which case you KNOW people will rise up against Fox, and create a social/racial nightmare for years to come.
OR, things will just keep slowly building until one or both of the above will occur.
Any way you look at it, Fox is determined to play this out-as is their "Star". They're too obsessed with their own greed for power and wealth. And are amassing their followers to fight for them to keep it.
When you truly believe that capitalism (a term so often misused as a generalization of absolutely free trade) is the universal serum for all that ails society, consequences of ANY actions taken to achieve financial success are justified. Beckk's no different than limpaugh, hannitard, coulter, Fox News, et al in that they bear no guilt for receiving their outsized compensation for selling ignorance to the public. They're perfectly content. In fact, the more the country suffers from the ignorance of it's public, the better they do. They're just too dumb to recognize the pain. Ironically, these folks who cry about their "love of country" and tout their patriotism the loudest are the biggest detriment to the state of it. They just don't really understand how it all works, but are determined to foist their ignorance on the rest of society.
Am I wasting my time on this site??? I don't particularly want to change anyone's mind... I'm more interested in trying to understand how and why others have the opinions they do... I watched this GB segment twice and do not understand how this has ANYTHING to do with "putting HIS words in maos mouth???
You will see the folks who post on MMFA are indeed funny. Only thing is they are seriously trying to be serious!
Some of us (you, as a matter of fact, most effectively) are often humorously "trying to be serious."
Then you have problems with listening comprehension. Beck & Co. conflate Beck with Obama multiple times throught the sarcastic device of "oh, Mao didn't want to kill millions, but he was just cleaning up the mess of the last regime." They were clearly refencing what has been said about Obama cleaning up Bush's mess.
I meant to say.
Not just yours.
Since you and your other rt-wing buddies are here on MMFA, and obviously watch the shows-If you actually LISTEN to these clips, READ the articles and blogs--you already KNOW about all the lies.
Perhaps you're just to "proud" and "Patriotic" to admit you've made a terrible mistake? I know MOST of us here would LOVE to be able to present you with the FACTS--if you'd only listen...
that's why you can't debate them. the wingnuts are so ignorant of reality they actually believe that they are the smart ones. lol
Interesting that you don't suffer the responsibility of your convictions enough to hope to sway others' opinions. Those of us who believe we see and speak truth really do hope to change other's minds, because the last 8 years of living in a country where truth is optional, a personal choice borne of clique politics, was a burden - and for some a tragedy - that we'd prefer not to endure again.
Let me state an example... Health Care reform... I'm NOT oppose to health care reform. I'm 56 years old and not in the best of health I've paid over a $1000.00 per month for my wife and myself finally giving it up because it just didn't make sense to pay $12,000.00 a year. I did this for over 6 years (self employed).
I don't have anything against the public option OR single payer. BUT I can't take ANY proposal seriously until TORT REFORM and AWARD CAPS are in place. Why would I cap CEOs or corporations but let trial lawyers reap HUGE salaries?
If I mention this in the liberal blogs. like this one All I see is ridicule and plain meanness...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/09/AR2009100904271.html
54 Billion is NOT chump change. $396 dollars PER taxpayer... Hmmm... not chump change. If you would like to save $396 (or reduce the deficit by 54 Billion) send me yours.
My question... if it's "no big deal" why not add ONE page to the 1500+ page HR3200 (or whatever bill survives) for tort reform, for keeping the trial lawyers from reaping HUGE salaries (like the corporate crooks)?
While we're at it let me buy health insurance (I'm uninsured) across state lines. I have TWO choices in Colorado tak about no options.
As for buying insurance across state lines, that's exactly what the federal exchange is designed to create. If you're health coverage plan meets the minimum requirements, then it can be offered, nationwide, through the exchange. You'll have the freedom to pick from any available option, public or private.
BUT--see, "It will NEVER happen to ME!!". I can't tell you how many times I said that after caring for patients that had gone through the same thing. It did, and it can.
If you'd like some stats on the results of tort reform-I have several studies done in Texas-which has Tort Reform. It's also the state with the highest rate of uninsured-and I'm not speaking of illegal aliens. The cost of health insurance has risen 300% since tort reform as has the cost of care. They are also having problems with "impaired physicians", and doctors who shouldn't be practicing-but can and do. Texas had a flood of well over 4000 Docs into the State-just within the first year. Unfortunately though-when there IS a case of gross negligence or malpractice-no attorney will represent them. The patients and their families are suffering. Do I agree that Something needs to be done? YES. But as Peace4all says-first and foremost we've GOT to do something about revamping our system, The insurance companies have become nothing but professional gamblers-using the citizens money to gamble and pay themselves off with. When in med school, I did exams and quality assurance for health insurance companies-and have seen things from their side also-BUT, that was almost 20yrs ago-when companies were just changing over, and health care was still the priority.
Peace :)
Do you really believe that Anita Dunn is in favor of killing millions of people? Or do you think she just appropriated MAO's political tactics, like Ralph Reed and Newt Gingrich have done in the past? Do you think it's a sign of fascism or totalitarianism if Rove recommended a MAO biography to GWBush? What is your issue with her quote, and why do you ignore her justification for using MAO, and why do you ignore her use of Mother Theresa as a "favorite" policical philospher?
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should at least MENTION the 70 million he was responsible for slaughtering.
BUT in this case
What she didn't mention was one of the most interesting FACTS about chairman maos philosophy. "Just Kill 'em"... 70 million... What would you folks say if someone in the Bush admin (who I didn't much like) said hitler was one his/her favorite philosophers???? I don't get it... guess I'm just not that bright..
Honestly I find it interesting, seriously interesting that all of us can hear and see all the same "facts" and all have differing views. I suppose it's a perspective, probably based on our experiences and prejudices...
I am retired "from real work" and most recently (still trying)I have been a horse rancher. I suffer from MD and it makes it a little hard, especially when it's been snowing heavily (like here).
So one of the things I enjoyed about horses is trying to observe their behavior. With the bad weather I can't get out as much as I like so I've been trying to "observe" listen and read others thoughts. I didn't anticipate and have any idea how so many people can be so sure of themselves or the facts yet none agree.
One thing about horses, they certainly aren't (generally) mean and disparaging to other horses. The name calling and rudeness on this particular site has been socking.
One of the things I'm proud of is teaching my children to read, listen to, and at least try to comprehend all sides of an issue. politically I consider myself a libertarian. Pot should be legal, I have a peace sign tattoo on my right wrist, long hair and a beard that rivals old saint nick. I only wear jeans and tee shirts, never a suit or even a tie. I think if you met me on the street you would like me, most people do EVEN if we discuss politics...
Perhaps this just isn't the right place for me to get educated or try and be open minded to others opinions (or facts if that's what you call them).
Here's the thing though. Beck is taking Dunn's remarks about Mao and ascribing the title of "commie" to her and then saying that she and Obama would have no problem with the slaughter of millions. Remember, Dunn also mentioned Mother Theresa, but Beck isn't calling Dunn a Catholic nun. What Dunn is speaking to is the study of political science. It's the study of who gets what, where, when etc. and kind of leaves out the "why". If you look at her allusion to Mao, she talks about fighting your own battles. Never in it does she say it's a communist battle.
I don't know if you remember in the 80's when, in business circles, many were reading "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu? You didn't have to be a Taoist to follow some of the principles. Patton read Rommel's books on warfare, and used some of the strategies, but that didn't make Patton a Nazi. Thomas Jefferson read Voltaire to help create the Dec. of Independence and Voltaire believed Jews were thieves and murderers and wanted an enlightened monarchy to rule. Last I checked, Jefferson wasn't a monarchist.
Beck is really insulting our intelligence with this stuff. The world and it's history and it's people are really so much larger than Glenn Beck can handle or wants it to be. That's why he's always talking about fear. That notion terrifies him.
Seems to me I use to actually know and believe what you've said. probably I've lost some of it in my old age...thanks
Interestingly, you're making a reference to (now deceased) former, and impeached, Arizona Governor Evan Meacham. Same guy who (ironically, correctly) overturned Arizona having a Martin Luther King Day. (Note: the overturning was because MLK Day was done by a previous Governor, rather than the Legislature, which did eventually vote to recognize MLK)
I don't like the "thumbs up, thumbs down" feature, but I used it for the 1st time and it was on your post. I gave you a thumbs up, of course. Well spoken. I don't think Obama could have said it better.
Thanks for a good synopsis!
Our sense of humor is based on real humor, not sick humor.
And obviously you can't even freakin read and comprehend what the title means if you don't get it's Obama's words, not Beckerheads. You're about as unamerican as they come if you can't see the danger in this.
FACT is I do not see the danger in this BUT thanks for trying to help me understand YOUR perspective. Seems to me it was a little satire, perhaps I'm wrong BUT I'm not so closed minded that I'm calling YOU unamerican because you don't support the 1st amendment (we do have that little document you know). I never said I agreed I just don't see how it's anything other than humor... mountain over a molehill... pathetic
"OMG ROFLOL libruls are teh sux0rz!!!!"
Seriously, old man, isn't it about time for you to grow up?
You've claimed that you're "just trying to understand." It must suck to fail so consistently.
I still don't get the insults, I must really be too old....
And besides, as I've pointed out many times before on this site, just because I might say that Socrates is one of my "Favorite philosophers", that doesn't mean that I approve of the fact that he had sex with teenage boys. You can appreciate someone's philosophies without condoning all of their actions.
In addition, Dunn made these statements at her son's graduation, which just happened to be attended by a Fox News Anchor (Wallace). Her comments were not a matter of public record, but one of Fox's "news" people (not an opinion commentator) made sure to get it recorded and onto Beck's show. To me, that kinda makes it personal.
Isn't it amazing that he keeps his job? Beck gets away with it because the President is black. DO NOT TRY TO TELL ME OTHERWISE.
It is time for white people to stop trying to tell black people race has nothing to do with this ridiculous criticism of this President. The only reason why this is allowed and acceptable- and the only reason nothing is done about it is because their target is a black man.
I am convinced that Fox News, [Klan]nity, Beck and Bum-Rush Limbaugh is running out of patience with each and everyday Obama sits in the Oval Office. They are also upset that all the attacks and criticism on this President hasn't led to Obama's downfall yet. I also believe they are stepping up their effort hoping their outrageous attacks will lead to Obama's assassination. You can not put it past them. This is pure hate and evil coming from the mouth of these people.
Jimmy Carter (white) was the worst president in my lifetime. Barak Obama is TRYING to take the title. It's not race it IDEAS Barak and Jimmy are TWINS....
If the glove don't fit, you must acquit.......
Also, not because I'm trying to defend Mao but just because facts matter, I'm sure there were terrible famine and crimes in Maoist China, but not 70 million deaths.
From sources quoted on Wikipedia: Death Toll Median Average Estimates of 14 Sources = 45.75 - 52.5 million people