Schultz says Beck's claim that "progressives" were previously known as "tyrants," "slave owners" is "psycho talk"
October 21, 2009 6:59 pm ET
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He'll then say "think Acorn". Why should something think "Acorn"? I have no idea.
Thing is - the 3/5th was put into place to convince the south to join the country. The north was against slavery, but wanted the slaves to be counted for taxable purposes. The south wanted them to be counted for representation, but not for taxable purposes. So, they compromised. 3/5th.
Thing is, the south soon realized that the more slaves the brought over, the more representation they got. And before long, they were calling nearly all the shots. Combine that with the boom in demand for cotton... and it was pretty ugly.
So, the north was like "hmmm, maybe we should discourage them from simply importing slaves to boost their representation." and began taxing them at 10 dollars per slave.
Glenn Beck, will tell you, however, that the african slaves were paying this "fee" because they were sooo pumped up about being able to come and work in the US and enjoy the benefits of living in such a wonderful country.
And how this all comes back to progressives supporting slavery, and ACORN and unions? I have no earthly idea.
Glenn just likes his audience to think they are smart by yelling "YOU LIE" at anyone who says the Founding Fathers owned slaves.
That said, Thomas Paine, one of Glenn Beck's most favoritist peep everz. was incredibly progressive for his time. And when people like Glenn Beck caught on to his whole "Church is different than state" approach and beliefs, they did everything they could to ruin him. Much like they are doing with Obama today.
After all, true academics is only for God hating, America hating liberals. Glenn Beck himself has no agenda except to expose the truth.
Kind of how Richard Heene had no agenda. He was just some ordinary guy asking questions and seeking answers.
Interesting that you mention Thomas Paine; what are the chances that Becky or his Teabagging Troglodyte followers have ever read The Age of Reason?
Somewhere in the neighborhood of Zero, I would guess.
Whether the distortion is intentional or not can be debated. But I think most would agree it is distorted. If you think the view is distorted, then it's an "attack on Beck". If you attack the "fact" itself, then you're using "liberal" sources.
This past week MSNBC had a special on about David Koresh. It was interesting because that particular "cult" had existed peacefully for many generations. Suicide was the ultimate sin. Most people thought they were a bit wacky, but they got along pretty well with the community and pretty much did their own thing.
Then Koresh came in. He changed the mentality. Programmed them for destruction. They became more aggressive. Violent. He caused a lot of turmoil... which ultimately led to the fire we all saw on national TV.
Survivors today, after spending the past 10+ years being deprogrammed, reveal the truths about David Koresh. None of them wanted to die - Koresh had them scared out of their mind that the Govornment was going to destroy them. So, when the ram punched a hole in the wall for them to escape, they stayed frozen in fear. And what did Koresh do? He, as caught on audio tape, instructed one of his accomplices to pour the gas and light it.
(Of course, a Beck fan will tell you that MSNBC aired the program so it was obviously made up.)
Glenn Beck is nothing new. And as Imus said, it doesn't end well.
I probably focus on Beck the most (and I definitely comment on him most) because cults have always fascinated me. Ever since Koresh, actually. It just blew my mind how people could be brainwashed into believing such outlandish things.
My parents always worried I was going to actually join a cult one day. It took them a while to understand that I was interested in the whole phenomena of a cult... not the cults themselves.
In my opinion, the Beck phenomena is nothing new. He's a cult leader of sorts. What is new, however, is the size of his megaphone. I find it completely fascinating. But at the same time, a bit concerning. I read a lot about it... and pay a lot of attention to it, but at the same time, I feel a need to stand up and do my part in putting an end to this disingenuous and potentially damaging movement that has very questionable motives.
After all.. I've learned that folks who are unreasonably worried about some sort of imaginary evil are typically engaging in that same evil themselves.
For example, several of my ex girlfriends were insanely jealous of other girls. They would let their imaginations run wild, convinced that I was cheating on them. Thing is, I never cheated. But my ex's were always convinced that I was. Thing is, I eventually found out that they had been cheating on me the whole time. I guess, in their mind, they were convinced that I was doing the same thing they were. Or, the guilt they felt for betraying me was projected towards me. I've now learned that when I'm seeing a girl, and she becomes unreasonably convinced that I'm cheating on her, chances are she's cheating on me. And it never fails - I eventually find out that she was.
Same thing with Beck and him being unreasonably convinced that Obama is a fascist dictator that's trying to manipulate the populace into going along with his evil plan.
I'm not very smart so that probably didn't come out very well. Hopefully you get what I mean. And that someone smarter than me could say it better. :)
My observation about Beck is that Schultz is right on point.