On Maddow, Scahill says "ACORN got pennies compared to" war contracting firms linked to "murder," "child prostitution," "misconduct against American personnel"
September 26, 2009 12:08 am ET
From the September 25 edition of MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show:
Palin's book and Obama's bow: a media week to forget
Media Matters: The Palin chronicles
The Friday Rush: A series of conflicts
FALLS CHURCH, Va. – September 25, 2009 – The U.S. Department of State has selected DynCorp International (NYSE:DCP) as one of four awardees under the AFRICAP recompete...
The period of performance is a base year plus four 1-year options beginning on September 11, 2009. During the performance period, the customer shall place orders with each company for a guaranteed minimum of $500,000, with a maximum ceiling value across all four IDIQ contracts of $1.5 billion over the life of the contracts. Each company has a contract ceiling of $375,000,000.
Look! Over there! Acorn !
Don't get it? You haven't been watching much fox news, then you would understand.
That statement may all be true, but the real reason the ACORN story is news for the right wing echo nut-jobs, is because they represent black America.
It's race, class, and partisanship, but they don't like to say that out loud. That's why they're reduced to ridiculous defenses like insisting a contractor receiving contracts for billions of dollars today and implicated in very serious crimes is old news, while an organization not accused of any crimes, but caught in clumsy set-ups is a major story.
The sad part is that they come here to brag and gloat at how they've been duped. Check out how many wingnut posts end with a victorious "ACORN has to go!" or " Fox reporting will dismantle this corrupt organization!".
suckers.
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/acorn-handy-substitute-n-word-912-ev
* The crazy man who is angry about his Cliff Clavin accent ( Eh-Kahhhn is a frahhhd)
*The crazy man saying that the people selling the flags "confessed" to being from ACORN( I didn't see this in the video) .As if it was a crime. I got similar thinking from the wingnuts insisting that Van Jones was unfit for office because he said, at some time in the past, that he was a communist.I 've seen plenty of self-described Republicans freely holding office, and I think they have that right.
* Crazy man playing the victim, following around the outnumbered 10,000 to one black kids, getting in their faces, and crying that he got hit in the face. I didn't see that in the video, but if somebody can point it out, I'm open minded.
* Crazy Man upset that alleged ACORN employees are at "our" demonstration, contradicting all of that BS about the non-partisan tea party rallies being for all Americans.
It has more to do with class than race - which is why you'd think they'd like Obama, but they hate him as a symbol of class envy (how can a black guy go to Harvard Law School?).
Neighbors of mine in the construction business are happy to exploit illegals while listening to Rush and FauxNews. They also happily flipped houses to buyers obtaining their loans with ACORN assistance. I guess that was OK.
It's pretty predictable to hear callers to righty radio talking about the bad choices and laziness that lead to poverty, sometimes within minutes of a call from a struggling conservative who's sure he's unemployed because his boss didn't get enough tax breaks, or illegal aliens took his job.
http://www.nodnc.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=401
Why don't you give a straight answer as to why ACORN is a bigger issue to you than the military contractors accused of much greater crimes?
Fail.
Oh boy, wonder how you're going to spin this!
If Republican party loves African Americans sooo much, WHY is the Republican party 89% White?
If Republicans care sooo much about African Americans, WHY are the NO, NA DA, ZERO Republican African Americans in Congress?
WHY was there ONLY 36 African American delegates at the 2008 Republican convention?
You would think that with all that Republicans love, African Americans would make up at 25% of the Republican party. But they only make up 2%.
You can site the history of the Republican party but "The party of Lincoln" acts NOTHING like the Republican party since 1965 till now.
After the 1964 presidential election, in which Republican Barry Goldwater appealed directly to the white Democrats of the South, the GOP began to consciously morph itself into the White Man’s Party in Dixie. Like the Dixie Democrats, the Republicans fashioned campaigns that essentially ran against African Americans.
African Americans are not stupid.
We know what code words like "welfare reform", "reverse discrimination" as well as the "states rights" cry of the confederate south mean.
We've been told, by Republicans, too dumb to realize how insulting it sounds, that we are being suckered by the Democratic party because the want to keep us on government assistance.
You can site old history till the cows come home but the actions of the Republican party and it's surrogates tell African Americans, all we need to know about the Republican party!
The Racist History of the Democratic Party
http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/3554.html
Racism in the Republican Party
Southern strategy
Racism In The Republican Party Part I
Ann Coulter ADMITS the Republican Party is full of Racists...
Lets see how accurate snoopy really is:
You cannot go to a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian Accent."
-Senator Joe Biden
Mahatma Gandhi "ran a gas station down in Saint Louis."
-Senator Hillary Clinton
"Republicans bring out Colin Powell and J.C. Watts because they have no program, no policy. They have no love and no joy. They'd rather take pictures with black children than feed them." -- Donna Brazile, Al Gore's Campaign Manager for the 2000 election
"These laws [segregation] are still constitutional and I promise you that until they are removed from the ordinance books of Birmingham and the statute books of Alabama, they will be enforced in Birmingham to the utmost of my ability and by all lawful means."
US Senator Robert Byrd,
"Jews — that's J-E-W-S." -- Democratic state representative Bill McKinney on why his daughter Cynthia lost in 2002
"I want to go up to the closest white person and say: 'You can't understand this, it's a black thing' and then slap him, just for my mental health."
-- Charles Barron, a New York city councilman at a reparations rally, 2002
(I) "will not let the white boys win in this election."
-- Donna Brazile, Al Gore's Campaign Manager on the 2000 election
We have lost to the white racist press and to the racist reactionary Jewish misleaders." -- Former Rep. Gus Savage (D-Illinois) after his defeat 1992
"White folks was in caves while we was building empires... We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it." -- Rev. Al Sharpton in a 1994 speech at Kean College, NJ, cited in "Democrats Do the Dumbest Things
"The white race is the cancer of human history." -- Susan Sontag
Wow....good call there Snoopy. This is really to easy
Still trying to come up with a way to spin all the dem racist comments away??
Well, you tried hard little guy.
What was your beef again? A list of 11 comments, half were nothing more than facts. That's your response to 3 million posts showing racist republican e-mails, signs, death threats, etc. etc. etc.? A 0.002% comparison - hoo boy! Thanks for the ROTFLMAO, it was quite a long day today. I needed that!
Eric Holder,Van Jones ,Acorn..now Valerie Jarret under attack..just coincidental..right?
If sucking was an Olympic event, Pointy would be Michael Phelps.
http://hiphoprepublican.com/2006/08/top-racist-democrat-quotes_30.html
Since snoopy is not able to man up and address the racist quotes I provided from current dem leaders, perhaps you can soldier up and give it a try.
How do you want me to "address" the quotes on your list? It's not any great feat to gather up quotes from people everywhere in the political spectrum. Some of those I would call racist, others are more commenting on racism, but sometimes the unaware racist has trouble distinguishing between the two.
Aside from the fact that some of your quotes are too difficult for you to understand, some are people who aren't really representatives of the party, let alone "leaders",and they're not media figures, so whoever your source was for this list was reaching.
I believe you have one quote attributed to Robert Byrd that is actually Bull Connor, so you might check your sources.
Does that answer your question? I think racist remarks are wrong, no matter who's making them, but there is only one party using racism today, in 2009, as a driving force in its crusade against the first black president of the U.S.
Now how about getting back on topic and answering the question you've been scared to answer?
You are once again confused. Every time you throw this question at me, or one of its variations, I answer it. I think you are having some memory issues. But, if it helps you sleep tonight, I will answer it yet again for you.
I do not think ACORN is a bigger issue or problem than the contractor issue.
And, on the same thread, when asked if you thought DynCorp should be as big a story, considering they receive hundreds of times more money, and are accused of much more serious crimes than ACORN is accused of, you wrote;
You've been visiting this site for quite a while. Are you still not clear about what the issue is here, or what this site does?
You're continuing to be outraged about, and comment on, what you admit is the less important story, because the nice men on the tv and radio have told you to be outraged at the smaller story.
You admit that you had never heard of the much more serious story, but you don't seem able to understand why you had never heard of it.
Do you understand how self-defeating your arguments are on this topic?
Talk about not "manning up". That's the strongest opinion you can muster about the difference between the two? That you don't think one is worse than the other?
What other bold stances are you willing to take, you brave warrior? Would you go on record saying that you don't believe that a basketball is larger than the sun?
That still does not mean that Acorn was not a major story. Time for you pills Col.
I realize it's not easy to admit you've been duped, but it doesn't help you to call other people crazy who had to point out to you the fact that you'd been duped.
What I was having a laugh at is your dishonesty (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, that you're not still that confused). The closest you can come to admitting the difference in the magnitude and seriousness of the ACORN vs. Blackwater stories is to say you think the much less significant one is not bigger.
You really can't go as far as stating the obvious, that ACORN's problems are nothing compared to the corruption of the military contractors, can you? You can't even bring yourself to type what is objectively true to any rational person, that the Blackwater story should be a thousand times more important to our media than ACORN.
Would your whole world come tumbling down ? Would that be too much reality for you?
Once again, nobody's saying that.
It's really amusing to see the same gang of non-racists jump in so defensively every time racism is mentioned.
I can't imagine why that would be such a sore spot with you self-described non-racists.
It's not true that we reject criticism of Obama (or any other liberal). It's untrue that we can't stomach that, and that we ban people for disagreeing with us. It has never been true that we cry 'racism' against fair criticism.
i watched an old favorite recently, Repo Man, and loved a line by Harry Dean Stanton, as he and Emilio Estevez drove through skid row in L.A.:
"If only we could find out what they owe!!"
Estevez: They're winos, they don't have any money.
I'm not comparing ACORN or their clients to winos, only laughing at the gullible conservatives ability to be distracted by the wrong targets.
Check out Pointofview's silly racism defense on this thread. Like babies looking at jingly keys.
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The Midnight Review
If you think that ACORN (with minimal ties to Obama) needs to be prosecuted and that the whole organization is corrupt because of the actions of a few peons, then you should be out in force objecting to any continuing funding going to some of the military contractors with direct and extensive contact with the Bush Administration.
But you aren't. It's not an excuse for ACORN. It's an indictment of your behavior!
But as it is, the ACORN stuff is the usual right-wing schtick; feigned moral outrage used to disguise their petty partisan motives, just like with the Clinton BJ's. Same old, same old.
I know, what you really meant to say was:
"I REFUSE to acknowledge the seriously wrong deeds of others who take my tax dollars because I prefer to make arguments about ACORN, because my spiritual advisor Glen said it will hurt President Obama."
Compare that to Fox's wall-to-wall coverage of ACORN and it's outrage at ACORN's questionable advice to a PHONY pimp and prostitute and discussion of FICTITIOUS prostitution. I believe that there has been little if any coverage of Mr. Sparkman's murder. They covered that teabagger's bitten off finger more than a murder that may have far more consequences for our nation.
I understand
How blind can the tiny group of loyal Republicans be?
For every "obamanation" they tout, the left can tout a dozen or more lingering Bush generated problems. The bury Obama in bull angle allows the left to recapitulate atrocities of the Bush years, which are real as opposed to the fake ones ginned up by Fox News and conspiracy theorists like Orly Taitz.
Randy
If you really are for helping the poor and down trodden then you should see it is of importance to make sure they get the monies that is going to ACORN for them. The left needs to get on board with this and show that they are truly the on the side of the poor and oppressed. As of now, America is finding the left defending the horrors that were exposed of ACORN via their "poor people" argument. If ACORN is truly above board then they will have no problem opening their books for an independent auditor. It seems they are fighting that harder than the charges against them. That should raise some flags there.
That would be troubling, except it's not true. ACORN registers people to vote. Usually poor people and minorities.
Horrors of ACORN? Independent auditor? Let's start with the TRILLIONS going to the war profiteers and their ACTUAL importing of underage sex slaves and then we can worry about the MILLIONS going to ACORN and their imaginary sex slaves.