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Gregory challenges Boehner on whether he agrees with Steele's socialism charge against Obama, Boehner says "no"

September 20, 2009 1:23 pm ET

From the September 20 edition of NBC's Meet the Press:

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    • Author by Dmacalypse (September 20, 2009 1:42 pm ET)
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      He'll be singing a different tune in another environment tomorrow
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    • Author by smarshall1432997 (September 20, 2009 1:43 pm ET)
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      Uh, oh "alot" of apologizing is going to happen this week from Republicans going off script. LOL
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    • Author by blk-in-alabam (September 20, 2009 2:14 pm ET)
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      Typical Conservative(republican) response when called on their bs,"well someboby else said it,wink wink".
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    • Author by jjamele2880 (September 20, 2009 2:16 pm ET)
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      Off-Topic, but did anyone else catch Huckabee's speech to that repulsive "Family Values" forum in DC this weekend? Every other sentence was either a Biblical reference or a lame attempt at word play. At one point, Huckabee compares the teabaggers being "mocked" by the media to Jesus being spat upon and laughed at.

      The weirdest part was near the end, where Huckabee tells the David v. Goliath story, and reminds his audience that David refused the armor offered him by the King-- "sometimes" Huckabee said, "we just need to say No to the King."

      And the best hand-to-the-forehead moment came where Huckabee "quoted" a line from "our traditional foreign policy- Walk Softly and Carry a Big Stick." Of course, the actual quote from Teddy Roosevelt was "SPEAK softly and carry a big stick"- but I guess Huckabee wasn't quoting TR, he was quoting his REAL GOP hero, Glenn Beck. Bizarre.
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      • Author by blk-in-alabam (September 20, 2009 2:48 pm ET)
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        When Huckabee told his David v Goliath story,did he tell the people that although David refused the offered armor he still fought for the king.Is Mr.Huckabee telling people people to refuse the aurmor offered by the one they refer to as the king,President Obama,but still fight FOR him??? I wonder if they will ever learn,even when using biblical verses to justify the mean evil,hateful things they do and say,RIGHT IS RIGHT,AND WRONG IS WRONG.You cannot make worng,evil,mean,and hateful be right just by saying it is so.You got to do the right thing.
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    • Author by antihannity2009 (September 20, 2009 2:35 pm ET)
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      It looks like Boehner will be getting a call from Rush tomorrow asking how he cannot call the President a Socialist. An hour or so later, Boehner will call Rush's radio show and ask him for forgiveness.
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (September 20, 2009 3:22 pm ET)
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      Not much of a challenge from the one that dances with Rove. Boehner trotted out all his points flawlessly.Including the one about " starting over ".What the heck these guys do in Congress is beyon me.If I did , what they proudly do in Congress, inprivate inustry I would be issued a CAM notice ( Corrective Action Memo )
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    • Author by joedla1117 (September 20, 2009 3:34 pm ET)
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      I think there is a lot of misconception between socialism, socialist, and a socialist government. In reality there are only a few countries with true socialist governments. France, Canada, and the UK for example are not socialist Countries. Like the US they are all Republics. Regulation does not make a country a socialist country. In a truely socialist country, only the controlling government would have any say about almost anything. No amount of regulation from the government could even come close to that. Going the other way, full Capitalism is even worse, that is where a few very wealthy people and the CEOs' of the major industries and companies, controlled everything. You can just imagine the results of that. It has happened before with horrendous results.
      It is very dumb to refer to regulation as socialism. To those that are calling regulation, socialist: Please look up the definitions: Socialist, Socialism, Socialist Government, and Capitalism.
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      • Author by worrierking (September 20, 2009 4:52 pm ET)
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        As you said, these people running around with signs accusing people of being socialists and communists don't understand those terms. They seem to want as much free capitalism as is possible.

        They are the very people who would be ground up in the wheels of this fictional free market capitalistic society they dream about.

        They have their buzzwords and that's all they've got.

        I've got a few of my own buzzwords to describe them but the net nanny will not permit me to post them.
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      • Author by Bill R in Oakland (September 20, 2009 5:02 pm ET)
           
        Joedla,

        Small correction. Out of France, Canada, and the UK, only France is a republic. Canada and the UK both have Parliamentary systems. Canada is a "parliamentary democracy/constitutional monarchy" and the UK is technically a "constitutional monarchy" but the power is really just in the House of Commons.

        The main difference between Canada/UK and the U.S. is that there is no separate "executive branch"...the Prime Minister in both these countries is the head of the party with the most seats in the House of Commons--Stephen Harper in Canada, head of the Conservatives, and Gordon Brown in the UK, head of the Labour Party. Unlike our president, however, neither Mr. Harper nor Mr. Brown are the official heads of state of their countries--in the UK, it's Queen Elizabeth II, and in Canada, it's the Governor-General (technically the Queen's representative).

        Now that today's Civics lesson is over, you are certainly correct in your assertion that neither France, Canada, or the UK are socialist nations. They certainly have some socialist policies and programs at both Federal and state/province level (like the US does--education, Medicare, unemployment insurance), but the economies and banking systems are completely free market.
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      • Author by LittleFuzzy (September 20, 2009 6:33 pm ET)
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        France is a Republic. It has a President and a Prime Minister. The President is the Head of State, elected directly by the citizens. He appoints a Prime Minister from the National Assembly, as well as the other Ministers in the Government. The Senate is indirectly elected by local elected officials (mayors etc. elect Senators). The National Assembly is elected directly by the citizens.
        Canada and the UK are democracies with constitutional monarchies. The Head of State is the ruling monarch, presently Queen Elizabeth II (who is represented by the Governor General in Canada). In both countries, the House of Commons is elected directly. Any party with a majority of seats in the Commons forms the government. If there is no majority, either a coalition of two (or more) parties is formed OR the largest party forms a minority government (this is the current situation in Canada). The House of Lords in the UK is a combination of hereditary members and appointees. The Senate in Canada is made up of appointees. Both act as a check on the power of the Commons.

        You are correct that none of these are socialist states. There are, however, different views on the role and powers of the State.
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    • Author by jbraskin4786 (September 20, 2009 11:17 pm ET)
         
      Any bets on how long it will take Boehner to apologize to Limbaugh?
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    • Author by manofmystique (September 21, 2009 8:44 am ET)
         
      This guy is a complete bonehead. He calls himself a leader but he refuse to denounce the wrong message these dangerous protesters are sending. He never reminds misguided people that we had an election and the people have spoken and that is how our democracy works. Instead this idiot spends all his time trying to discredit Obama and his administration.
      Republicans should NEVER be in a position to lead this country again. Republicans are act like sore-losing children and they have no shame. What we are witnessing from them is who they really are. They have a problem with this black President and they no longer can function responsibly, in fact, they continue to talk like they haven't learned anything from the last eight years and losing the election. What does that tell you? It tells me they are not fit to be in a position of power. Not until they change their wicked way. I don't see that happening no time in the near future.
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