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Matthews, Heilemann suggest Obama at fault for "open[ing] the door" to birthers

August 09, 2009 10:54 am ET

From the August 9 edition of The Chris Matthews Show:

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    • Author by overmars jr. (August 09, 2009 12:50 pm ET)
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      Did you see the nasty look hottie gave him? I like her.
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    • Author by mustardman (August 09, 2009 12:51 pm ET)
         
      I quite watching Matthews some time ago. There is something about old white guys and reporting reality that seems amiss these days.
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    • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (August 09, 2009 12:59 pm ET)
         
      Obama didn't "open the door." As I've said before, Obama's opponents are opposing him simply for the sake of opposing him. The birth certificate "issue" and the claims of Nazism, fascism, use of key words like "gorilla" and "monkey" are merely the arrows in the quiver. If it wasn't those, you can rest assured that Obama's opponents would find something else.

      Further, as I've said several times before, the "issues" raised by Obama's opponents won't simply go away because nothing he can say or do will satisfy them. If he produces a birth certificate, they say it's fake. If Obama produces the guy who typed it, they say he's lying or bribed. If he produces the doctor who delivered him, they say he's lying or bribed, too.

      To people who have the strength of their BELIEF that Obama is evil, no FACT will dissuade them. In fact, if you provide proof that they're wrong, they take it as evidence that YOU'RE part of the pro-Obama conspiracy too -- in their warped view, your facts and evidence merely serve to validate their BELIEF that Obama is evil -- so evil that he's managed to ensnare you in his web of deceit.

      These people are not rational and they cannot be reasoned with. We need to oppose them, not engage them or negotiate with them.
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    • Author by harley (August 09, 2009 1:03 pm ET)
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      I agree. Obama posting actual proof of his citizen and birth in Hawaii only caused the anti-reality crowd to take a step even farther from reality.

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      • Author by isabellakate (August 09, 2009 4:38 pm ET)
           
        I saw the Certificate of Live Birth posted on the campaign website. It did not have the name or signature on it of someone present at the birth or authorized to report it. As far as I know, we did not hear from the doctor who delivered him, so exactly who said the doctor was lying or bribed? Only you, lst Republic. This is really dishonest.

        In my view, Obama did open the door to this conspiracy theory, because,at the outset, he should have posted the full certificate which would have answered the questions,EVEN IF not strictly required by law. It goes to respect for citizens whose president you will be and acknowledges their right to know every little detail of your background,because they trust you with their lives. People with secrets should not run and if they do, should expect to be exposed.By the way,the birthplace of some prior presidents was questioned but the questioners were not called racist,or worse,for doing so.

        The same applies to Obama's academic records. He should be proud of them,not secretive, so why were they sealed?

        I'm not a fan of Matthews,but he said nothing that could be construed as critical or doubtful about Obama. Even if he had, your comments look like you want anything unfavorable or even anything that questions him,suppressed. You add fuel to the cries of Fascism or Stalinism. Not in this country, please.

        Finally, "These people" is one of the expressions racists use to characterize a race. It is equally repulsive when used to denigrate an entire group of people whose opinion is different from yours. People who oppose Obama come in all the shapes, races, colors, IQ and education levels of America. Just like those who support him.
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    • Author by bintx (August 09, 2009 1:32 pm ET)
         
      He opened the door by providing his birth certificate as proof of his citizenship? Wow, that's a reach.
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    • Author by dmhack (August 09, 2009 2:59 pm ET)
         
      Harry Truman had a little sign on his desk that said---The buck stops here.

      For Obama the sign should read---Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

      I could have sworn we'd moved on from the birthers lunacy.
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    • Author by Digital Jedi (August 09, 2009 9:18 pm ET)
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      I think he opened the door, alright. He opened the door for all the wackies so we'd know which ones were out of their fricken' skulls.
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