Coulter: "Boxer sees a black testifying before her, and she thinks it's appropriate to cite other blacks"
From the July 17 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:
As Think Progress has documented, Sen. Barbara Boxer introduced the NAACP's Joint Resolution on Climate Change into the record following National Black Chamber of Commerce CEO Harry Alford's testimony, in which he described the purportedly negative effects of cap-and-trade legislation "on small and minority-owned businesses, their ability to create jobs and the impact on the communities that they serve" and said that the negative impacts "would differ across regions, across industries and across income levels depending on changes in local energy costs and on allocation formulas for permits. And that worries me and my members because the black community suffers mightily when the economy goes south."
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Boxer saw someone who heads an organization that represents blacks and cited another organization that also represents blacks.
As usual, Skeletor is oblivious to this, so she has nothing interesting or insightful to add aside from a cheap smear.
It's so obviously clear that you are a race mongerer like others of your ilk, the WeinerSavages, the Magalgang Malkins, the Skezzixes, the Proffessor Harold Hills, I could go on, but I have space to make for others to comment... the point is this. You're the kettle, there's the pot, say hello to Mr. Black if you will.
Remember, it is verbotten to go off topic. Bad solon, bad solon.
ANNNND Godwin violation.
I think you meant "on something".
The video shows how insidious the racism of the left actually is, how dehumanizing and demeaning. That's the left's view of race and personal ability, not the conservative view.
*provided that the black man conforms to your political ideology.
Too bad you don't like it. And just the fact that you think Ann Coulter actually has a point about anything shows just how far you'll go to stretch yours.
Shades of Molly Ivins, GF. ;-)
Listen to his interview and hear what he has to say.
After that, then talk about brainwashing.
There has to be a least a couple of firing synapses between the two of you to actually form a thought. Please, share, won't you?
http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2009072916/harry-alfords-condescension
Man up! Let's get it on!!
What made him wrong by reacting the way he did?
She did it that way because lefties believe true members of a minority group should understand that there is a correct way to think to get ahead and that she could put him in his place by attacking science with 'black resolutions'.
OK....so...you've posted about 86 or so requests and demands that other people here WATCH and LISTEN to this man and YOU don't even know when he brings plays the race card in this exchange with Boxer??? Really???
These are from the opening statement. Boxer was simply pointing out that the "black community" doesn't necessarily end at Alford's fingertips. Why this is an outrage, I have no idea.
Oh, I don't know... in the first line of his testimony? "I come to you, not as an economist, but with a deep understanding of small and minority-owned businesses and as someone who has experience with consumer behavior."
Yeah, I know, he's just talking about his experience with minority-owned businesses. That's not necessarily racial. Though, come to think of it, he offered is testimony in his capacity as the CEO of the National Black Chamber of Commerce. I'm not saying he's playing "the race card" -- indeed, I don't think he is -- but race is on the table from the moment the conversation began.
Interesting, indeed.
Not exactly. The Soviet government certainly propagandized the claim that unemployment had been "liquidated" in the 30s, but no scholar I know has actually found evidence to support this. (A nice read of this is J. L. Porket's Work, Employment, and Unemployment in the Soviet Union (1988).) By the end of the 1980s, the official journal of the Communist Party was reporting on domestic unemployment statistics (Коммунист, #14, 1989, p 40).
But setting that factual problem aside for the moment: citing the Soviet Union's collapse doesn't do much to invalidate Keynesian economics: Keynes didn't advocate communism.
As for the supposed futility of "moving wealth around": someone with money is more likely to purchase goods and services than a person without money who can't find a job. In fact, I'm unaware of any contemporary economist who actually argues that moving wealth around has no effect at all on the size of "the pie". If you know of one, by all means, provide a citation or a summary of the argument.
Just because you major in a subject doesn't mean you've learned anything about it. So far you've been 100% wrong about everything.
Please cite Gore's unqualified statement that humans are evil.
Ask George W. -- he's the one who placed three whole countries in an "Axis of Evil" . . .
Keep posting, you're quite funny, although I don't think that was your paid mission when you started here.
Well, its not as though being Governor of Texas and being a moron are mutually exclusive -- hell, it almost seems to be a requirement. :)
Anyway, it wasn't simply serving as president and governor that rendered Bush a moron -- though neither did much to dissuade the designation -- it was things like barbecuing when warned of an attack, reading to kids during the attack, playing air guitar while a city floods, butchering the English language, starting 2 preemptive wars . . .
You're right -- you could. However, seeing as Obama has degrees from TWO Ivy-league universities -- and didn't rely on daddy's help to get in, unlike Dubya -- the only one who'd wind up looking like a moron would be you . . .
Seriously, we on the left don't need to be told by dunces like you how we feel about race. We know how we feel about race. We've shown our "condescension" by fighting for civil rights for all. The Republicans got out of the Civil Rights business somewhere around 1964- which is why right-wingers have to reach back to blathering "Al Gore's father was a racist" and "Robert Byrd was in the Klan" to make some kind of "Republicans are better on Civil Rights than Democrats" nonsensical, logic-spinning argument. Give it a rest, ProudtobeanignorantConservative.
The video of Boxer shows how incredulous she is at being called on the carpet about the racial tone. I see other leftist progressives do this by first identifying individuals by race and procede to make them something less than capable to do things of their own voulition.
As far as my comments, have you seen me attack via the Gore/Byrd stuff? No, that's old news anyway. The progressives of today are still waging a battle to make certain that class conflicts continue and allow for the proletariat to rise up and bring about socialist utopia. This incident demonstrates Boxer's ingnorance and insensitivity but the issue goes much further in demonstrating the condescention by lefties to minorities and their hatred of those members of minorities that stray from the plantation.
In the future debate on the merits of what I have posted and not gripe about what others have said. And please, the students that you teach at that capitalistic elitest private school, hope for stronger arguements than the 'clueless idiot' tack. ;(
Oh, and I love the way your feelings are sooooo hurt by my calling you names, while you keep referring to me as "stutteringjamele," as if that's any more clever now than it's been the last fifty times you've used it.
I'd be happy to debate your posts on the merits. As soon as you post something that has any, I'll start.
I'll try an offer something for you to tear into.....
Cut and pasted from above......
Do you have a comment on the video, what coulter said, what alfords said? Please, beat me till I beg for more! Come on, there has to be something here to nail me with!
And when have I ever complained about people calling me names? It doesn't bother me a bit. Now on the other hand, I like to jest at people's monikers here. Like jj male, what the heck does that mean? I usually stop when folks ask me nicely to refrain. I take your plea as such a request.
But be careful, you're just about at the troll & brainwashed usage limit for the day. You'll have to come up with some other term to fully demonstrate the depth of your wit as well.
To people, like proudconservative, who do not have facts to back up their opinions name calling is their only form of debate. They state their opinion and without facts to make their opinions legitimate they resort to trying to demean the other side. It is too draw the focus away from how weak their argument is. Having him rely on the using facts to back up his claims is not fair, for everyone knows facts have a liberal bias.
If proudconservative is really an economist he would know the Keynesian theory is sound and helped get us out of the great depression. He would also know the little spike in higher unemployment the late 30’s was caused by FDR listening to some conservative and cutting back on government spending.
So AGAIN- believe what you want. Barbara Boxer is a racist. The Democratic Party's fight for Civil Rights is based on it's own latent Racism. Up is Down. Black is White. WHATEVER. It's not my job to rescue you from your pathetic little world. You are somebody's sadly ignorant child, but not mine.
You want to live there- so LIVE THERE. I'll stay here with the sane people who can read and think. Please feel free to declare "victory" and do your little dance. Whatever gets you through another day.
Agreed it is not your job to rescue me but it should be your job to be able to defend your opinions. Maybe start with identifying what you believe, how you arrived at that belief, are there differing viewpoints that I need to face in order to validate my own and then how can I share that with my fellow man. I call it teaching.
So it was perfectly logical for Sen. Boxer to offer another view of the situation to show that his view was not representative.
They will try and change the subject, call you a dittoborg or some such blather, but never look in the mirror and see that one of their own could make insensitive remarks. As someone posted he MARCHED, so he CAN'T be racist or insensitive.
You knew this though.
However, it takes absolutely no ______ to be a troll / princess / hypocrite / screech monkey / Republicandidiasis.
Was there a substantial point you wanted to raise that has not been discussed already here? If so, by all means, put it on the table.
But if you're complaining that no one has seriously debated the substance of PC's position, this simply isn't true. PC seems to think that Boxer cited the NAACP for no reason other than to "dehumanize" and "demean" a Alford as an African American. As many have pointed out, there are very good reasons why this is less than a strong argument. Alford's testimony was given as the CEO of the National Black Chamber of Commerce, and he spoke not as a scientific expert but as someone familiar with minority-owned businesses and concerns about the impact of the bill. Boxer cited the NAACP's statement for the exact same reason.
If you and PC are serious about having a serious discussion and you really aren't satisfied with the answer that's been given, then might want to go to the trouble of seriously explaining why.
We knew you were a racist moron, but now you prove yourself a sexist moron as well.
"The Republican Party was FOUNDED on the concept of individual liberty for all, which is why it started the war to end slavery"
Actually, the GOP was founded on the concept of economic lassiez-faire, which is why they started a war to MAINTAIN their slave economy . . .
"Charlton Heston marched right alongside Martin Luther King Jr."
Big WHOOP -- he also praised the "white guys" who wrote the Declaration . . .
"MLK and his father were both Republicans."
Um, I suppose you have PROOF of this -- MLK always struck me more as politically independent {NOT of the Bill O'Reilly type} . . .
Republicans, not Democrats, passed the Civil Rights Act - Democrats fought it tooth and nail.
WOW -- I never knew LBJ was a Repub . . .
"Senator Boxer would like nothing more than to set us back to a time when we did not think in terms of individuals but of races and groups."
Yeah, sure sounds like it:
"We are all different. Yet we are all God's children. We are all united behind this country and the common cause of freedom, justice, fairness, and equality. That is what unites us." - Sen. Barbara Boxer
Wow, sounds horrible . . .
Bob in DC
Or:
Meaning that Arabs are violent, obviously.
All Indian people look alike, right.
So please give the time in the video, or the video you reviewed, to show where Boxer called him on his BS or of his openning and explanation of who he represented.
Well, what a coincedence . . .
Sen. Tom Coburn {R-OK} saw a Hispanic, Judge Sonia Sotomayor, testifying before him, and thought it was appropriate to cite another Hispanic ... albeit a fictional one on TV, who wasn't even the same nationality as the nominee.
You know what they say: what's good enough for the goose . . .
tsk, tsk.
But look at the content of the postings above and show how solon or any other leftist here are masters of their domain.
Was it the 7th time you called me a brainwashed loser, or the umptenth mention of the trolling, or the venomous moron attack?
No, it had to be when you said Boxer....no never mentioned her. It must of been when broach the subject of racial tension in the committee meeting, wait don't see that either. Man there has to be something....let's look shall we so that I can see how adroitly you gutted my every arguement with insight and keen intellect......
And I'm still hurt you don't want to be friends anymore. But I'm not surprised. You can't recognize a racist statement when a rightwinger utters it, but are all over supposed racist statements when a democrat says something. Here, let me post an example of a racist who makes similar generalities about what constitutes racism:
Noooo disrespect or harm! What a hoot!
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I believe you meant to address this comment to the person who wrote the following: "Wait! Hold on now. The media matters (for very little) site and the thought czars there say that you should not veer from the topic. tsk, tsk"
TRANSLATION: with a second computer, I can generate as many sockpuppets as I want!
Unlike wingnut blogs, you can't get banned from MMfa for merely having an opinion.
As Think Progress has documented, Sen. Barbara Boxer introduced the NAACP's Joint Resolution on Climate Change into the record following National Black Chamber of Commerce CEO Harry Alford's testimony, in which he described the purportedly negative effects of cap-and-trade legislation "on small and minority-owned businesses, their ability to create jobs and the impact on the communities that they serve"
Well now -- unless the NAACP's Joint Resolution contains a reference to Fred Sanford, I don't see how . . .
You keep using that word... I do not think it means what you think it means.
There is also the matter of Coulter's aversion to civil debate, which you've suggested is of value to you.
I guess one has to stay cloistered to maintain the conservative's ignorance. Learning about the world challenges their moronic view of it.
(No, not really. In all seriousness, our dear Mystery Thumb Downer, what the heck were you thinking? I'd really love to know. If what you were thinking was "I don't read comments, I just give rate them down because I'm bitter" then give this comment a thumb down. If what you were thinking was "I'm just bitter in general and can't stand to hear that people might be traveling and enjoying life", you can register this opinion as well by giving this comment a thumb down. A thumb up will be registered as "all of the above".)
It's funny how the right wing talking heads DEMANDED civility concerning Sarah Palin's family . . . while complaining about Michelle Obama's "proud" comments, her arms, etc. . .
...or the video in which Michelle Obama talks about "whitey"... you know, the video that doesn't exist...
Now, please, let's be civil, shall we? To recap: in the course of responding to your comment about Coulter as an honest person, I tried to explain my reasoning, offered opinions, and cited a specific example. But in response to me, you simply dismissed my comments in four words without explanation or even reasoned opinion.
If you feel like talking about this in a civil manner, you're always welcome to do so.
Best,
-Vysotsky
On top of that, since when is Glenn Beck's show considered journalism? And why is it that Coulter only seems to be on his show? Is it because she's about as valued as the Enquirer?
The only point she has is that if it's Boxer, she just has to disagree everytime. Folks, this is truly a comedy network.