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CNN's Roberts says Scheuer's "major weapon" comment is "out there" 

July 02, 2009 8:46 pm ET

From the July 2 edition of CNN's Campbell Brown:

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Previously:

Beck guest Scheuer: "The only chance we have as a country right now is" for bin Laden to "detonate a major weapon" in U.S.

Daily Show's Stewart on Scheuer: "Obviously in this country, everyone's entitled to their dope-pinion"

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    • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (July 02, 2009 10:01 pm ET)
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      For seven years we were told to vote for Bush and support his policies on the grounds that "he kept us safe." No more (allegedly) attacks after September 11, 2001 meant his policies were working. To even question the administration, let alone oppose it, was equated with treason.

      Now we have a conservative commentator suggesting that not being attacked post-Bush is proof that we're NOT safe. Of course, if this idiot gets his way and we ARE attacked again, that will also be considered proof that we're not safe. Either way, Obama gets blamed by conservatives and the mainstream media.

      Now, I want you to imagine a liberal, ANY liberal, openly calling for attacks on the United States. If merely disagreeing with the Bush administration was synonymous with treason, do you doubt that a liberal advocating terrorist bombings by America's enemies would get that liberal jailed indefinitely without charges, or worse?

      But the best Roberts can do when the calls for attacks against America come from conservatives is passively note that the statement is "out there?" What "liberal" media?
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    • Author by harley (July 02, 2009 11:30 pm ET)
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      This clip is undeniable proof that conservatism = terrorism,
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      • Author by amento1 (July 03, 2009 1:08 pm ET)
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        Whoa Nellie! I'm a liberal, and I've been called a "terrorist sympathizer" for opposing Tha Bush Mobb's wars, but I won't equate conservatism with terrorism, and I don't like it when other people do it, either.

        Besides, the folks we're discussing (Messrs. Beck and Scheuer) aren't conservatives. They're reactionaries. Actually, I wonder if "reactionary" is a strong enough word for how far right they are.
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        • Author by shag11 (July 03, 2009 7:07 pm ET)
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          How do ya tell the differnce? Did you witness McCain's behavior during the campaign. He slimed Obama with lie after lie, so what is he, a reactionary or a conservative.
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          • Author by amento1 (July 04, 2009 1:12 am ET)
               
            Conservatives believe a) most people do well enough when left on their own; b) smaller communities make better decisions for their members than larger ones; c) the values that have gotten us this far are good enough; and d) we should avoid solutions that make problems worse. Reactionaries, on the other hand, believe in corporatism, militarism, nativism, and religious extremism <i>über alles</i>.

            The problem is, these folks call themselves "conservative," and the mainstream media lets them, so that it is, as you say, hard to tell the difference.
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    • Author by tjmccool2284 (July 03, 2009 1:32 am ET)
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      Roberts was just trying to show how cool CNN (reading twitter to old people since 2009) is by playing the clip from the Daily Show. His comment about the Scheuer idiocy was just the set-up.

      Of course, he missed the chance to focus on the Beck's unwillingness to call the fool out on the air. The Glenn was coyly dismissive of the comment but let it stand because Glenn knows how much hay he could make if it happened, King stopped the Stewart clip too soon as Jon went on to point out that Scheuer has a dope-pinion.
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      • Author by Dem02020 (July 03, 2009 11:10 am ET)
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        True, it's a strange context to place the beck/scheuer thing in.

        What does the 'Daily Show' really have to do with it?

        Is it commentary on the beck/scheuer thing, or on Jon Stewart?

        And as far as any commentary it might have been on beck/scheuer, again, why frame it in the context of the 'Daily Show'?

        What, CNN doesn't have a direct access to video of Fox News Channel and the beck program, but only knows of such things and can only get video clips of them, from the Comedy Channel?

        On a far more negative note, I have no idea what funny or insightful thing was said by Jon Stewart about the beck/scheuer thing... he called the guy a 'dick' and a dope, so what, if that's commentary or satire or even humor, then I missed it... he also took the opportunity to utter a few of his trademark F-bombs, and then noted to you how they were bleeped out (bleeped so lamely that only non-English speaking people would not have known what word it was he had said), and what was the FCC point he made? That he should be able to say the F word on television w/o the FCC bleeping it out?

        I claim that Jon Stewart's citing of the beck/scheuer thing (and CNN's strange indirect citation of the same thing, strange for having Jon Stewart wrapped around it), I claim it was nothing insightful or satiric or even funny, just a couple of F-bombs lamely bleeped over, and he called the guy a 'dick' and a dope...

        Worthless stuff on all levels.

        Contrast that to the other clip MMFA had on the same morning, of Stephen Colbert, where he funnily satirized Fox News Channel's anti-Democratic mission, by not only pointing out the thing where Gov. Sanford was identified by them as a Democrat, and where previously they had done the same thing with mark foley, but he made the brilliant funny of "Hurricane Katrina (D)"... that's funny and brilliantly satirical!

        Also, Colbert's routine included a montage of hypocritical Republicans bashing President Clinton, Gov. Sanford included! Larry Craig also! That was all funny and insightful commentary and brilliant satire... no F-bombs lamely bleeped, or even the pointlessly juvenile "he's a dick and a dope".

        Leave it to CNN to take the beck/scheuer thing, and frame it strangely as just being "out there", and then framing it stranger still in the context of the unfunny and pointless non-commentary of Jon Stewart ('dick' and dope don't tell me anything, except about Jon Stewart's disdain for the 'dick' and dope, and about his empty head and emptier vocabulary), with two lamely bleeped F-bombs included for who knows what reason.
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        • Author by psp (July 03, 2009 1:27 pm ET)
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          You know what's really funny? That you can write such a long, boring, repetitive tirade (your trademark) and completely miss the point regarding Jon Stewart's reference to the FCC and the "F" word. To top things off, you state that Stewart has an "empty head and [an] emptier vocabulary" in the same post where you write the following:

          but he made the brilliant funny of "Hurricane Katrina (D)"... that's funny and brilliantly satirical!


          Hi-freaking-larious.
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          • Author by Dem02020 (July 03, 2009 7:30 pm ET)
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            What's your point, that Jon Stewart said something interesting or insightful or even funny about the beck/scheuer thing?

            He didn't.

            As far as his bleeping F-bomb FCC reference, you seem to know what insightful thing it was he meant...

            What was it, what was his point?

            He didn't have one...

            He just did what he always does, when he's empty and when he reaches for a nervous senseless laugh from his studio audience : he drops an F-bomb (and we hear a bleep).

            Hilarious.
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            • Author by Lane (July 04, 2009 5:33 am ET)
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              Whoooooooooooooooooooosh.....
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            • Author by kromecom48 (July 04, 2009 4:42 pm ET)
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              I don't think I've ever said this to another poster here, in the spirit of civility and an open exchange of ideas. But geez. . . you're an idiot. Stop wasting people's time with stupid arguments like this.
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              • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (July 04, 2009 7:36 pm ET)
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                Be fair. Dem's not an idiot. He's a long-winded bore, but he's not an idiot.
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              • Author by Dem02020 (July 04, 2009 7:40 pm ET)
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                I love being right, and I'm happy to say something true and sensible, again and again... and I love rubbing people's noses in it.

                Jon Stewart is an unfunny and completely uninteresting pop icon among people who don't know any better.

                He's so lame a comic and so lame a commentator, that he says nothing memorable or interesting, ever.

                Take the above example for instance (as I now point it out again, and rub your nose in it): Jon Stewart calls this guy a 'dick' and a dope (dope-pinion he said, that's brilliant), and in so doing makes no sensible or insightful comment or criticism of the guy, or makes any kind of joke or humor or even satirical remark...

                He drops two F bombs, because that's what he and his fans think humor is, and then he complains that his F bombs are bleeped.

                Now if that's a stupid argument I made (for the third straight comment), then counter it... otherwise, you're as articulate and witty as Jon Stewart is (you may even be Jon), because to call an argument stupid, is not to counter it or to even argue... it's like calling someone a 'dick' or a dope, and thinking you've made some kind of point... it's like dropping F bombs, and thinking they are points of argument or discussion.

                Again, counter my argument if it's so stupid, or say what's idiotic about it...

                The only thing worse than Jon Stewart's absolutely empty and worthless humor, is his complete inability to argue with or oppose people like this sheuer character, or anyone else for that matter... he's a waste of time among thinking people, he's completely ineffective and worthless as a commentator, he routinely has newt gingrich types on his show, and sits there with a stupid plastic mock grin on his face, and fails to counter them or oppose them in any sensible way, which is why they love going on his show and having there way with him...

                Disagree?

                Find my argument stupid?

                Then take it on and counter it, or shut up...

                I love being right, and I love rubbing people's noses in the truth.

                It's fun, and funny too.
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                • Author by victor_the crab (July 04, 2009 11:18 pm ET)
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                  Funny how you bash Jon Stewart for being unfunny and juvenille, yet you call Stephen Colbert funny and brilliant.

                  But it's Stephen Colbert who owes all his success to Jon Stewart. It's Stewart who groomed Colbert to become the host of his own show, that Stewart co-produces. Colbert is the first to say he owes it all to Stewart, and Stewart will say that it's all due to Colbert. There's a mutual love/respect between the two of them that obviosly escapes your arrogant, angry hatred of the Daily Show host.

                  You know, if the two of them took the time to read what you just posted, they would just be laughing hysterically over the thought process, or lack thereof, of a small, petty, insignificant fool like yourself. Try and rub that into one's nose, loser.

                  You may now resume your sad, pathetic excuse of a life.
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                • Author by redstatelefty (July 05, 2009 8:32 am ET)
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                  Dem, since you really do seem to have missed the point, let me try to explain it to you.

                  Stewart's point in deliberately dropping the F-bombs, which he knew would be bleeped, was to point out the idiocy of censoring a time-honored Anglo-Saxon verb commonly used by millions in everyday English in the same non-literal sense in which Stewart used it, while at the same time allowing the far more obscene and quite literal proposition that what this country needs - indeed, that the only thing that could save our country - is a mass slaughter on a scale unseen in the 60+ years since we ourselves perpetrated it on the Japanese.

                  And your argument is not stupid, it is absent. You don't like Jon Stewart? Don't watch him. But don't claim his humor is "unfunny and uninteresting" simply because you don't get it. Millions do get what he's doing when he allows right-wingers to say such stupid things that no rebuttal is necessary "among thinking people."
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                • Author by Lane (July 05, 2009 2:32 pm ET)
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                  Sheesh. You have too much time on your hands.
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                • Author by Brabantio (July 05, 2009 5:52 pm ET)
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                  How big of an ego do you have to have to declare that something entirely subjective, your opinion of someone, is "right" or "the truth"?

                  Again, it's subjective, but I've seen plenty of good material on his show over the years. Many of the interviews I've seen are civil and spirited at the same time. Not long ago he had Huckabee on there, and Stewart made several good points against him.

                  You seem overly swayed by the "F bombs" and his reaction to people who say things that are so incredibly offensive that they shouldn't be allowed on the air. Even if you find that distasteful, it doesn't destroy his value altogether. Calm down and try to moderate yourself a bit.
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            • Author by Why_Not_Me (July 05, 2009 5:11 pm ET)
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              I think Stewart's point about the FCC and the f-bomb was how it gets bleeped out, but that Scheuer is aloud to advance his theory on why Bin Laden should attack the US again.

              Maybe?
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    • Author by ConnachtFan (July 03, 2009 5:21 am ET)
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      JD Roberts is a hack , a former Toronto Video DJ for Much Music...he has no credibility and is just a puppet.


      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLkFC0guAA8&feature=related
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      • Author by Lane (July 03, 2009 10:36 am ET)
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        I don't know much about Roberts, but are you judging a man based on a job in the '80s?

        I know I worked at Mickey D's in the late '80s, that sure as hell has nothing to do with my life now.

        And IIRC, Hannity worked at a college radio station in the '80s, bashing gays. Roberts sure beats that.
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      • Author by harley (July 03, 2009 10:41 am ET)
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        he has no credibility and is just a puppet.


        He should be working at Faux in that case.
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (July 03, 2009 2:12 pm ET)
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      Mr Scheuer's comment is suggestive and therefore dangerous. I think this guy did A moronic and antiamerican thing. Suggesting an attack on the United States to depose a currently elected president by controlling public opinion is out there all right.
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      • Author by phredicles (July 04, 2009 1:34 am ET)
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        A lot of people on the right do indeed seem to be trying to see just how close they can tippy-toe up to the line of calling for the violent overthrow of our elected government without visibly crossing it, don't they?
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        • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (July 04, 2009 11:38 am ET)
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          Yes, and they were the people telling us to quiet down and grow up when Shrub was winning. Funny, I don;t recall hearing any liberals in those days pouring fake gasoline over a studio assistant and telling Shrub to just go ahead and bet us on fire...
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    • Author by jlmincey (July 04, 2009 2:46 am ET)
         
      Scheuer said such a blatantly anti-american statement and CNN (whom I belive to be very non-partisan) decided to sho how riddiculus a statement is by showing the Jon Stewart clip. I am personally not a huge fan of Jon Stewart's (but Steven Colbert and Bill Maher are AMAZING), but I think that this shows real journalistic integrity on the part of CNN.
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    • Author by seroquel (July 05, 2009 6:34 pm ET)
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      Let's get this straight-
      A man who worked at the CIA is allowed to openly wish for an attack on the US so...people will want to be protected by the Government.
      Jon Stewart gets bleeped for saying a word on the air, because kids ears and you must be protected from profanity, by the Government(by way of the FCC)
      Tell me something Dem- Do you seriously think that a word of profanity is more dangerous than kids and parents hearing this person actively wish for an attack?
      Please, don't tell me you think Scheuer is within his rights to say that. Anybody who has reason would(and should) investigate this man for WISHING OSAMA BIN LADEN ATTACK THE US WITH A MAJOR WEAPON!
      Anything about that you don't understand? I have an idea-maybe before you comment, demonstrating possibly rocks in the head, YOU actually read and watch the entire interview, and Jon Stewearts specific show,to understand the comparison and hypocrisy bleeping his "profanity" and allowing this Scheur to spew HIS profanity.
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    • Author by rcasto@live.com (July 05, 2009 7:53 pm ET)
         
      Has anyone ever searched H.A.A.R.P.antenna? Check it out. A Government Project started in the earley 90's, 37 acers of antennas pointed into the Heavens and the back end aimed into the earth. When turned on the sonic waves going into the earth from the back of the antennas can reach over 1000 degrees. Could this be some of the Globle Warming Problem? This Weapon also does many other things.
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