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Declaring Carlin "a legendary guy at the EPA," O'Reilly fill-in Crowley states "EPA suppressed that report" 

July 01, 2009 11:30 am ET

From the June 30 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (July 01, 2009 11:34 am ET)
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      Glenn Beck knows nothing about BTU content and heat transfer. And Crowley's creds include plagiarism of others word as her own .
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      • Author by harley (July 01, 2009 11:47 am ET)
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        Glenn Beck knows nothing about BTU content and heat transfer.

        But, but, but he read a book about it!
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        • Author by IRONY 101 (July 01, 2009 11:54 am ET)
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          But, but, but he read a book about it!

          ...and he cried when he got to the ending. ;>)
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    • Author by k2 (July 01, 2009 11:45 am ET)
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      Crowley is a talking point repeating automaton. She will look you straight in the eye and lie, lie, lie.
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    • Author by thejbomb65 (July 01, 2009 11:47 am ET)
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      man she looks a bit mannish doesn't she?
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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (July 01, 2009 12:06 pm ET)
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        No, she is a very nice looking person. A whole lot better than O'reilly
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    • Author by DAWUSS (July 01, 2009 12:07 pm ET)
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      Where was O'Reilly? I SOOO wanted to hear him say "Senator Franken."
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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (July 01, 2009 12:26 pm ET)
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        His house of cards crumbled. He and the people at FOX prepared the nation voters for eight years to continue Bush 43 governance and they failed. It is still crumbling. Looks good now but the democrats now own the governace and are responsible for their success or failure. Let's not screw things up by bashing the republican elected officials.
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    • Author by blueline99 (July 01, 2009 12:09 pm ET)
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      Beck is an idiot...
      look at the chart for the last 100 years and not the last 5 you moron.

      Carlin got a BA as a Physicist and a doctorate in Economics...
      His job at the EPA is within the realm of Economics not environmental science.

      Just because he works for the EPA does not make him a Climatologist... my question is why is he even writing a report?
      That's like a CPA at Apple writing a white paper about Apple's Branding Strategy!

      The right is so out of ideas, they are looking for any port in the storm... I guess it was Carlin's turn.
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      • Author by fairliberal (July 01, 2009 12:48 pm ET)
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        Is Al Gore a climatologist? Using your standard we should not listen to him either.
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        • Author by mary59 (July 01, 2009 12:58 pm ET)
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          Despite the right's best efforts, Al Gore is very credible on this issue. Mr. Cato Institute funded by the coal companies Carlin is not, because of his compromised bias and his efforts to confuse the issues. His report was full of right-wing debunked talking points and was unsolicited. Oy.
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          • Author by fairliberal (July 01, 2009 6:04 pm ET)
               
            Carlin has been studying and writing about the environment since 1964. This is just a hush job by an administration that has a preconceived agenda. 38 years with the EPA and of course you are so quick to dismiss him. He doesn't agree with you so you label him biased, what a joke.
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            • Author by mary59 (July 03, 2009 1:18 am ET)
                 
              Carlin is bought and paid for. He's a partisan. Al Gore actually is concerned about the future of the planet.
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        • Author by vysotsky (July 01, 2009 1:05 pm ET)
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          Exactly. Al Gore has done much to raise awareness about environmental issues and climate change, but he's far from being a leading scientific authority.

          The conservative argument against climate change using Al Gore as a proxy is absolutely hilarious to me. It would be like claiming that HIV/AIDS isn't real because Bono is talking about it. Or claiming that there's no such thing as racism in America because Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton talk about it.

          Wait, actually, Rush Limbaugh has tried that last one.
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          • Author by fairliberal (July 01, 2009 8:14 pm ET)
               
            So I guess that means that you disagree with blueline99's assessment of Carlin's necessity to be a climatologist to write a report on global warming. That was the point I was addressing.
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            • Author by vysotsky (July 01, 2009 8:33 pm ET)
                 
              I think you misunderstand my point. Carlin can write all the reports he wants as an individual citizen. But I fully agree with blueline99's question: what was he doing in his capacity at the EPA writing a report that he was unqualified to write? From what I understand, his report essentially made the argument that proposed policies have not taken new research into account, so he then decided to go ahead and analyze the latest findings himself as if he was a climate scientist. I'm sure he's a bright guy, but I think blueline99's point was that it looks like he doesn't have the experience and educational background to draw the conclusions he drew with credibility in this case.
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              • Author by fairliberal (July 02, 2009 6:49 pm ET)
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                He has 38 years experience with the EPA and is a senior research analyst. He has been writing and studying the environment since the 60's. Your only real basis for dismissing his opinions is that he doesn't agree with you. I guess Gore is more qualified to his opinions? Or how about Michael Moore, what is his training in? This guy is infinitely more qualified than the 2 darlings of the left I mentioned.
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                • Author by vysotsky (July 03, 2009 1:04 am ET)
                     
                  No, and I'm not dismissing his opinion. He has every right to his opinion. This isn't about his opinion. He's not a credentialed climate scientist. Period.

                  And if you bothered to read what I wrote in my last post you would know that I could care less what Al Gore thinks about the environment. Gore has helped to make climate change a major issue in public discourse, but he isn't a scientific authority on climate change and I don't treat him as such.
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        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (July 01, 2009 1:28 pm ET)
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          Is Al Gore a climatologist? Using your standard we should not listen to him either.
          I was wondering when you'd show up, Commode Boy. If you can disprove something Gore has presented, with research done by the very climatologists you say would listen to, by all means, do it.

          If you can't, then admit you don't know what you are talking about and STFU.

          (Note: I call FL "Commode Boy" because he thought it was a valid debating technique to dismiss Keith Olbermann by calling him "the bathtub boy." I used the same strategy against him, since he thinks it is a valid rhetorical tactic, and named him "Commode Boy," using another random object found in a bathroom.)
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          • Author by fairliberal (July 01, 2009 8:23 pm ET)
               
            There are many climatologists out there that disagree with Gore. In the 70's they were warning that carbon emissions would lead to the next ice age, now it is global warming. The fact is that climate fluctuations are normal. Global warming is nothing more than a profit center for Gore and others

            But silly me I forgot rule # 1 here at MMFA, only libs are allowed to use silly nicknames. Anyone perceived to be conservative is not allowed. But I'll make an exception for you "Enema Boy" and pick another random object found in the bathroom .
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            • Author by solon (July 02, 2009 12:32 am ET)
                 
              No they werent. That is a lie you wingnuts keep circulating. There were a couple of article in magazines that broached the subject. There was NEVER any scientific consensus on a global cooling. Yeah fine cough them up. Gore is not a scientist he has worked WITH them for a long time from being in the science and technology subcomittee in the Senate. No one is citing Gore as a scientific expert he is talking about the work OF experts. Carlin is an economist trying to pass himself off as an expert and doing his OWN science. It is far from the same thing
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            • Author by thejbomb65 (July 02, 2009 10:36 am ET)
                 
              kinda like how the war in iraq was a profit center for haliburton, blackwater, and the oil companies right?
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            • Author by thejbomb65 (July 02, 2009 10:38 am ET)
                 
              there is a difference between a conservative....me......and a neo con.....yourself.

              a big divide. you yourself spout bullcrap arguments and debunked talking points at every chance you have. and i just love to call you out on it.

              by the way.....im still waiting on your response about that whole morality thing that neo cons have a hang up on.
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        • Author by thejbomb65 (July 02, 2009 10:33 am ET)
             
          well im betting al gore knows a good deal more than you do.
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    • Author by The_Cat (July 01, 2009 12:11 pm ET)
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      A scam that's really about power and money. Hmmm... let me think for a moment. Hey, you know what? He's right! But, the scam that's really about power and money is the war Dubya started in Iraq, not global warming. He's a professional, and should not get his topics mixed up like this. Purely amateur hour.

      Of course, his guest prefers the climate opinions of an economist to those of climatologists, because he says what she likes to hear, which is drill, baby, drill. Like I said: amateur hour on Fox.
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    • Author by jonwisby (July 01, 2009 12:37 pm ET)
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      Legendary as in trolls and ogres?
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    • Author by mk3872 (July 01, 2009 12:47 pm ET)
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      You cannot use non-peer reviewed data, data from blogs and an economist to study climate science. This is utterly ridiculous.

      We would all like to hide our heads in the sand and pretened there is no problem and that humans have had no effect.

      But that would go against the actual DATA. You cannot look at this pattern in 5-6 year incrememnts because they are outliers and do not take La Nina ocean currents into effect.

      Here is the actual data:

      [http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2495/3678220463_f16153419a.jpg]
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    • Author by ReasonAndResolve (July 01, 2009 1:06 pm ET)
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      Beck is right about this:

      "It's a scam and it really is about power and money."

      It's about protecting the power and money of the petroleum industry and other businesses that have gotten rich raping (to use Limbaugh's metaphor in a more apt context) the planet.
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