Beck asks Bachmann "the odds" the gov't will fine those who don't complete census, says he's "considered" not filling it out
June 25, 2009 6:56 pm ET
From the June 25 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:


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I do?
After all can you help me out which one is just "Dumb" ?
My parents were in the Tule Lake and Manzanar.
But Reagan also gave Reparations to the Japanese Americans who were in the camps and admitted it to be one of the greatest social injustices this country has seen.
Funny for them to be bringing this back up, because it's the conservatives who are willing to repeat this tragedy (Michele Malkin) in the name of security when it comes to Arabic Americans.
I can't believe that anyone could fight the Census, we've done this every 10 years since we became a country. How is this bad?
my privacy
Cumulative paranoia between those two = ∞
If Hannity had walked in, the three of them would equal a lightning bug.
Barrack Obama's speech to the Mideast was UnAmerican
But from what I can tell, the only people in this country who are openly disobeying our constitutional laws are the Right Wing Nuts.
I'm not going to fill out the Census
I'm for Texas secession
I'm a Tea Bagger
Who are the ones that are disobeying our laws, mocking the Constitution and advocating the overthrow of our government!
I think I need to review those Sedition laws and see what some legal scholars say about some of these NeoCons!
Don't fill it out. You don't have to. It's not a requirement, and it's not a law for citizens to take part in it. It's a requirement of our Constitution that the government counts everyone every 10 years, but it's totally optional for you.
You're an idiot, and Bachmann sitting next to you? Not much better. Ms, "I think we need to investigate democrats for un-American activities".
Glenn Beck has been saying for 5 years - WHOA!
DON"T SPY ON ME
give me my freedom and I can do GOOD!
by the way - what's your social security # ?
who lives in your house?
what is the anual wage of everyone that lives in your house.
are they white - black - mexican - indian - pakistani - afgan - hindu - muslim - christian - jewish?
let me know please.
I was under the impression that Beck supported the invasions of privacy authorized by the Bush administration.
And remember how we were always told that if we have nothing to hide we have nothing to worry about?
I seem to have a vague memory of that. I also remember being called a traitor and un-patriotic, by those on the right, for not supporting the government from 2001 to 2009.
I don't have a problem providing that information. I don't live in fear like some of my right wing friends.
Responding to the Census is required by law. If you fail to complete and return the questionairre, a census worker will come to your home and try and collect the data.
Don't believe me, www.census.gov
FoxNews and Republican Rep. Michelle Bachmann "proudly" told viewers that it's ok to "BREAK" American Laws" if you are a bitter, sore looser Republican. Must be nice.
i say bring everyone home for a week and vote?
what u think?
Why not bring them home for good?
You have proof that soldiers, whom I know many of, didn't get their votes counted? No? Didn't think so (hint, most if not ALL of the soldiers I know and talk to ALL voted for Obama).
Bring everyone home and vote? Vote in what? The census is not a vote.
It is their respective numbers, not their phone numbers, race, household income, time for leaving work, etc. If the government wants to ask and the people want to answer it, that's great. But by no means should people be forced to give information by fine or jail time, even when your being investigated for a crime you have the right against self incrimination.
And honestly, bring back the Sedition Acts? What in the world is wrong with you, we had enough of these type of things under Bush, there is no need to continue it. Forget your dang parties and return to the real world where they're both screwing us over.
Isn't she from Minnesota? Can the same state that produced Garrison Keillor produce this whack-a-doo? I mean Minnesota had Jesse Ventura, but he was just pretty fun, and not completely and utterly insane like Bachmann.
You know it's true.
The census in 1940 only asked how many people lived in your household. Because of this there is no way the war powers act used the census to round up Japanese citizens. Do these Fox clowns think that no one out there will verify the lies they tell?
The government used the Census of 1940 to identify Japanese Americans for the internment camps.
Census questions
I could see where they could have used said data to round up the Japanese Americans during WWII, but the question is, did they use the data to do it? That's the answer I don't know.
Scholars study wartime bureau
Friday, March 17, 2000
By STEVEN A. HOLMES
THE NEW YORK TIMES
WASHINGTON -- Two scholars say in a new research paper that despite earlier denials, the Census Bureau was deeply involved in the roundup and internment of Japanese Americans at the onset of U.S. entry into World War II.
The academics say the Census Bureau's involvement included identifying concentrations of people of Japanese ancestry in geographic units as small as city blocks, lending a senior Census Bureau official to work with the War Department on the relocation program and a willingness to disclose names and address of Japanese Americans.
While it is common today for the Census Bureau to publish reports that detail the number of people of a given race living in an area as small as a city block, such information was generally not available in the 1940s. But the authors of the paper contend that the Census Bureau provided such detailed information as well as age, sex, citizenship and country of birth to the War Department, now the Defense Department, on only one group -- Japanese Americans.
In 1941 and '42, the paper says, Census Bureau officials believed that such information was valuable to the War Department's effort in rounding up Americans of Japanese ancestry.
The paper, "After Pearl Harbor: The Proper Role of Population Data Systems in Time of War," was written by William Seltzer, a statistician and demographer at Fordham University, and Margo Anderson, a history professor at the University of Wisconsin in Milwaukee whose area of expertise is the census.
Seltzer and Anderson plan to present the paper at the annual meeting of the Population Association of America next week in Los Angeles.
The practices described in the paper did not appear to have violated laws governing the census, which prohibit the bureau from disclosing information on individuals. But the authors indicated that Census Bureau officials appeared to be willing to provide such data. What is not clear is whether they were asked to do so.
"We're by law required to keep confidential information by individuals," the paper quotes the director of the Census Bureau, J.C. Capt, as saying at a meeting of the Census Advisory Committee in January 1942. But if the defense authorities found 200 Japanese Americans missing and they wanted the names of the Japanese Americans in that area, Capt said, "I would give them further means of checking individuals."
The Census Bureau often boasted that its conduct in the relocation of Japanese Americans had been its finest hour because it resisted pressure to provide explicit data to the War and Justice Departments.
But Census Bureau officials do not dispute the findings of the paper. They say, however, that the strengthening of the laws protecting the confidentiality of data on individuals and the environment today would make a repeat of those abuses unlikely.
Japanese Americans have long suspected that the Census Bureau played a prominent role in the roundup and relocation of 120,000 residents of Japanese ancestry to detention camps in the interior.
"We've always suspected this," said Norman Mineta, a former California congressman who was relocated with his family from San Jose to a detention camp in Wyoming. "After all, they are the keeper of this kind of information."
On Dec. 9, 1941, two days after the attack on Pearl Harbor, the Census Bureau produced a report titled, "Japanese Population of the United States, Its Territories and Possessions." The next day it issued a report on the Japanese population by citizenship and place of birth in selected cities. The next day it published another report, this one on the Japanese population by counties in states on the West Coast. All reports were based on data from the 1940 census.
Capt justified the speed with which the bureau produced these reports by saying at meeting of the Census Advisory Committee in January 1942: "We didn't want to wait for the declaration of war. On Monday morning we put our people to work on the Japanese thing."
The United States declared war on Japan that Monday afternoon.
I think you may have identified the phenomenon which explains why so many working class Republicans repeatedly vote against their own self interests.
I truly believe that her craziness makes her stronger with much of her constituency. We can only hope that the region attitudes are shifting. Regardless, it's considered likely that MN will lose a representative after the next census so redistricting will be necessary. If we can have a Democratic legislature and Governor we'll probably be able to break up that district and dilute the craziness.
If Beck had bothered to do a 10-second Google search, he'd know that it could not possibly be "ACORN members coming to your door." It will federal employees, screened, hired, and trained by the Census Bureau.
ACORN is one of 250+ census "partners" whose sole job is to recruit APPLICANTS for census worker jobs. Period.
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