Media Matters' Boehlert goes head-to-head with Tancredo over Sotomayor on CNN
May 28, 2009 4:51 pm ET


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Conservatism in action, folks.
The right wing has a standard MO when it comes to these interviews and opponents of it, centrist, left, or otherwise, should be ready for it. That being said, Sanchez didn't leave Boehlert enough time to do much with the interview.
Whenever one of our people speaks, he or she is expressing an opinion. If they rant and rave, foam at the mouth and shout over anyone else, they are strongly expressing their opinion.
Whenever one of their people speaks, he or she is attacking America. Should one of their people talk over one of our people, no matter how briefly, then the are automatically Marxists, racists, socialists, abortionists, sexists (see page 23 for a full list).
A)pointing out that a comment is being taken out of context is "whining", because wanting the full story to be told is so childish and immature, apparently.
B)Boehlert takes comments out of context, which is not only an unsubstantiated charge but also has no bearing on the legitimacy of his argument. It would still be a valid point whether you were able to make such a determination about his character or not.
C)You don't like his beard.
I bet you wish you could have taken Tancredo's place. When you made the "hockey player" crack, that would have been a knockout punch, wouldn't it?
And as far as his beard goes, it is just an effort on my part to fit in, it is frequently noted how disheveled and unkempt Dennis Miller is with his beard, I thought my comment would be met with great approval. It seems that neatness counts here.
Of course, you can't provide an example of where MMFA does this, because that's just a false assertion, and one that you make often, and never back up. Ever.
Also look at the way his comments about Sylvia's was taken out of context. He spoke for about 20 minutes, if I remember correctly. His segment was a good discussion about race issues and again to anyone with a little reason showed he is not racist. But a few poorly chosen words were taken out of context and distorted.
If you want the context of Judge Sotomayor's comments to be considered you must be willing to do the same. And very few here are willing to do so.
I'm just trying to imagine if Tancredo had tried this tack:
TT:You take things out of context all the time.
EB:Like when?
TT:Um, well, everyone knows you do, so you're being hypocritical.
EB:Um, right. Anyway...
I don't really care much about the comments made about people's appearances one way or the other. It just seemed sort of ridiculous to put it in the context of evaluating how well he did on the show.
I too found that comment dishonest, ugly and grossly out of bounds. But that's Tancredo for ya'.
Not 60 seconds after he says judges should ONLY be concerned with the LAW, he says it's OK for Alito to bring his life experience and family experience to the bench.
And Boehlert is exactly right in saying that Sotomayor's comment is actually LESS controversial than Alito's.
I agree that Boehlert should have made more of an effort to point out Tancredo's absurd, self-defeating argument. But whaddyagonnado when the discussion is so clearly slanted in favor of the conservative, especially when it comes to time given to make one's case...
At least he didn't use Hannity's debate tactic when confronted like that: "We're not talking about Alito here, we're talking about Sotomayor's reverse-racism!" Y'know, I always felt the Repiglicans were intellectually bankrupt, but when Joe Scarborough and Bill O'Reilly are the voice of reason regarding their slime tactics nowadays, you know that their ideas are in the gutter.
Tancredo's headlong rush to the gutter was blatently obvious. Eric interjected just enough and with an even "temperment" that framed Tancredo as a borderline hysteric with a pathetic argument.
"Listen, Rick, here it is in a nutshell. Sonia Sotomayor made the statement she made in the context of speaking about race and sex discrimination cases. And in light of that, let's take a good hard look at what she said. She said, as you just showed, and I quote, "I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."
So, she's saying in effect, that in any case involving race or sex discrimination she would HOPE that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would MORE OFTEN THAN NOT reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."
She is not advocating that white males are incapable of reaching a better conclusion than Latina women. She's not stating that a Latina women would AUTOMATICALLY reach a better conclusion than a white male. In fact, she's not even stating anything at all about what WOULD happen. She's stating a HOPE. A hope that the richness of the Latina women's experiences would better inform her judgment in regard to race and sex discrimination cases than a white male's who has never been in those shoes.
In fact, she goes on to recognize that there are many cases in which white males, specifically the 9 white males on the Supreme Courts decades ago, reached great conclusions when it comes to race and sexual discrimination cases. However, she also points out that there have been, at times, "wise" justices such as Oliver Wendell Holmes, whose conclusions on such cases were, and I believe this is the prevailing thought nowadays, completely wrong. Her point being then, that she would HOPE that someone who's lived the life of a minority woman would be able to better make a judgment than say...Oliver Wendell Holmes had in those cases.
There is nothing racist with that, and anyone who purports to make it so is grasping at straws out of desperation."
That's what Boehlert should have said. I know he was working under certain time constraints, but if he'd prepared, he probably could have said something like that, had his assistants pare it down a bit, and gotten it all out under thirty seconds to a minute. If he had, the entire case against Sotomayor would have been destroyed, right there. The emphasis should have been placed on talking about the fact she said "I HOPE" and "MORE OFTEN THAN NOT". That is the knockout punch, and he didn't deliver it.
I'm really hoping you meant to type "rapping". Otherwise that's is a ridiculous thing to posit and not unoffensive to victims of actual sexual assualt.