UPDATED: NBC responds to criticism of change in poll wording
August 18, 2009 5:53 pm ET by Jamison Foser
Health Care For America Now (HCAN) argues that a change in the NBC/Wall Street Journal's wording of a key poll question about health care reform produces skewed results.
In June, the NBC/WSJ poll asked:
In any health care proposal, how important do you feel it is to give people a choice of both a public plan administered by the federal government and a private plan for their health insurance--extremely important, quite important, not that important, or not at all important?
76 percent said it was extremely or quite important to include such a plan in health care reform.
In July, NBC and the Journal changed their wording:
Would you favor or oppose creating a public health care plan administered by the federal government that would compete directly with private health insurance companies?
That produced a much more negative response. There are indications that the new NBC/WSJ out this evening will repeat that July wording, with similar results.
Here's HCAN's take, backed up by quotes from two pollsters:
These polls are not comparable. The first poll (June) accurately framed the question - should people be able to choose a public health insurance option. The second poll (July and August) pushed them towards an answer by leaving out the essential question of choice and asking a yes or no question.
On Hardball earlier this evening, NBC's Chuck Todd claimed that they changed the wording because the word "choice" "biased" the question.
Todd didn't explain what is "biased" about describing a plan that offers people a choice between a public plan and private insurance as offering a choice between a public plan and private insurance.
Aside from the absurdity of describing the original question as "biased," it is important to note that the first question frames the topic of a public plan in terms of its effect on consumers -- it indicates that they would have a choice between a public plan and private insurance. The new wording frames it in terms of the plan's effect on private insurance companies by emphasizing that they would face competition. The new wording is only passingly about consumers.
It should come as no surprise that a poll question that adopts the insurance companies' point of view yields results less favorable for a public plan than one that focuses on the impact on consumers.
UPDATE: NBC posts a response -- sort of:
NBC pollsters Peter Hart (D) and Bill McInturff (R) released the following statement: "The only agenda that we have is to accurately measure changes in public opinion. To that end, we selected two questions which we think are the best barometers of how and if attitudes on health care are changing in view of the robust public debate that is occurring."
Peter Hart and Bill McInturff have forgotten more about polling than most of us will ever learn -- but their response is, well, non-responsive. First, they make no effort at all to defend the new wording, or to explain why they think it is better than the old. Second, if you're trying to measure "changes in public opinion," it helps to have a consistent question to track over time.
It should also be noted that NBC's Chuck Todd and Mark Murray misrepresent the wording change in their introduction to the Hart/McInturff statement:
Liberals and progressives -- including Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office and the group Health Care for America Now -- have raised questions why our poll measured whether Americans supported the "choice" of a public/government option in June, while in July and this month it removed "choice" and simply asked whether Americans favor or oppose the option.
The July and August polls didn't simply remove the word "choice," as Todd and Murray claim. It completely changed the perspective of the question, as I explained above. The original question focused on impact on the consumer; the new question ignores that in favor of a focus on impact on insurance companies.











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You seem to be a little Picky and just a might Petty.
I'm open to a Serious Political Discusion when you're Ready.
Speak truth to power.
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Insurance companies and the GOP do not like the use of the word "choice" because it diminishes their arguments AGAINST a public option.
The groups on the left do not have enough power over the MSM like the conservative groups do.
Glenn Greenwald took Todd apart last month over his assertion that investigations of Bush administration officials for torture would be a "slippery slope" & a "political football."
Tonight on NBC's Nightly News, Chuck led the program with high poll numbers from citizens that were "Not" favorable to Pres. Obama's plans for the HealthCare Reform Bill. A screen appeared showing numbers ranging from 45% to 53% all against the HealthCare Reform Bill and Pres. Obama. And then this: the camera turned to Chuck who reported that the answers to questions asked in the poll were "false”, but people did “NOT” seem to know this. (Wait a minute...) Chuck then announced how the Republicans' opposition message had reached these Citizens and this was why the numbers were so high. Finally, Chuck closed his segment and stated that Pres. Obama and the Democrats would have alot of work to do since a majority of Citizens believed the things stated by Republicans in the past 3 weeks against the HealthCare Reform Bill.
Well, well, well. Thanks Media Matters for your story on Chuck Todd’s poll. To read this story first, and then see how Chuck pushed his 'trouble with Pres. Obama's HealthCare Reform Bill' as major news on NBC Nightly News was just hmmmm. This was shameful for Chuck to do by using his poll like this. Boy oh boy. ....friends like these and you don't need enemies. LOL.
You simply don't bring the earlier poll into it. You can't even get away with saying this poll is 87% yes and the earlier poll was 97% yes but the questions were different.. because people will remember the change in percentage and minimize or forget the change in wording.
I don't trust big media pollsters anyway. They can skew the results in order to influence the debate. As for Chuck, I don't buy his analyses even though I watch MSNBC. He doesn't convince me at all.
They are all just getting revved to move towards Luntz's latest. He was on Hannity yammering about how it should not be called a "public option" but a "government option" because the faves drop dramatically when they use that wording. Hannity, being part of the borg, naturally promised to do as Luntz ordered.
This is all part of the way they control minds. First you spend billions over many years demonizing all sources of info not from the approved sources like FOX, Rush, SMMoon - that is the information control leg. O'Reailly knows MoveOn and MM aren't Satan but he has to keep his followers from straying off the reservation and finding reality so he HAS to demonize them and anyone critical of him.
Then they use language - "government options" "Death tax" or just read Newt's GOPAC memo where conservative language manipulation really got rolling - that is called language control. Newt's GOPAC memo was NOT about selling people on conservative ideas, it was about manipulating minds. Lakkoff tried to get liberals to play that game but they would not be herded. Both information and language control are major mind control techniques. When you then make them think they are being persecuted you have a mind control cocktail.
Icky for people to admit but that is why millions of Americans live in a reality free zone and the people who control them will never give up that power. Everyone talks around it. What happened to the Republicans? Why are they so proud of being misinformed? In fact, they are controlled. Conservatism remains, as it has for many years now, our nation's most pressing national security problem.
So I'm a "national security problem" because my mind is controlled? Is that what I'm taking from this tome?
Hey Yanc, you need to straighten your foil hat. It's a little crooked.
Also, republicans (mostly) are global warming deniers. The Pentagon has said that global warming is the #1 national security concern.
So yes. When you join the collective by believing the lies, it is a national security problem.